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Trump gutting Obamacare #1999786
01/22/17 04:56 AM
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Apparently he sent out an order to gut the program and to weaken it so it will be easier to fix it.

I will be so thrilled when I can hire part-time employees to work a full week instead of just 19 hours a week. They will be thrilled too because that means they can actually work into true overtime hours and only have to get one job instead of three.


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999852
01/22/17 06:07 AM
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And the penalties are gone. That's a tax break in itself.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999863
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If he would eliminate the penalties from last yr he would be a hero to many


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999877
01/22/17 06:28 AM
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gig em Mr Donald... thumbup thumbup


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999886
01/22/17 06:37 AM
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Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999894
01/22/17 06:48 AM
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If he'll do something to lower the tax burden on small businesses I'll take of work in 4 years to be his campaign adviser. It's bad when there is really no benefit for a small business to be profitable. You've either got to make enough money that paying taxes is just an inconvenience or don't make any. There is no middle ground.


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999896
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Will all the hidden taxes that were placed on everything go away also?


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Higher than my expectations
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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999938
01/22/17 07:57 AM
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I hope Trump guts Obamacare like this...


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999949
01/22/17 08:04 AM
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tru...d-does-nothing/

He's done all he can but he can't end any of the ACA by himself. His order just instructs his Health and Human Services Secretary that they can grant blanket immunity to anyone choosing not to have insurance. That was already legal for the previous administration but they were never going to use that power. Also, if the individual mandate is done away with then you are going to see premiums skyrocket more than they already have unless congress goes with a full repeal and replace, which they don't want to do. The republican congress campaigned on repeal and replace but they had no intention of doing it because they are beholden to big money donors that are benefiting from the ACA. I'm hoping what Trump signed was a message to them that they better do their job and get repeal and replace moving or they are going to watch the whole system collapse. If he did it for that reason he's already doing more than I thought he would. Unless congress and his HHS Secretary fall in line that executive order won't do anything.


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: Skinny] #1999954
01/22/17 08:10 AM
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Fur I don't believe you ! When he opens the door to businesses and shuts down the laws hindering small business, you're either gonna be too busy with work or too busy counting your money ! flag

CR ,you are just a mean ol'conservative.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Like Bill said, Trump is greatly limited by the action (or non-action) of Congress. It doesn't matter how badly that he might personally want to accomplish a particular thing, if the worthless Congress does not act, he is hamstrung. Will be interesting to see how much of his soul he is willing to sell to the career politicians in order to achieve some of his goals as President.

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Papa I think it's gonna be more interesting to watch President Trump man handle the lazy worthless politicians. I can see him making his case to the people that certain ones are hampering the
course the voters laid out when WE put him in office. I can see
many careers ended when they come up for re-election. Especially those not wanting term limits. Both speakers need a one way ticket home.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Once Trump starts tweeting specific politicians names as not working with him it will start getting hot with them.

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Can't happen soon enough.


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Re: Trump gutting Obamacare [Re: timbercruiser] #2000160
01/22/17 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Once Trump starts tweeting specific politicians names as not working with him it will start getting hot with them.


I think he'll do just that too because he knows it will either motivate them or get them voted out (drain the swamp)


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