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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935017
04/15/14 03:51 PM
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Bummer. Hate that for y'all, Tapia.


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: tfd1224] #935020
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Originally Posted By: tfd1224
i wouldnt be surprised to see westervelt lodge #2 pop up there. it would be a really good plan, "hey guys instead of spending company money to get this place like we want it we can let some poor sapsucker do the work for us and make money off of them and yank the lease out from under them after deer season to ensure they dont go on a were losing the lease killing spree" they will probably be booking hunts in a few months


That's the exactly the kind of stuff the company I work for would do.


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935052
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I thought the current leasee has first dibs on renewing the lease??
Westervelt leased to dog clubs in 2011/12 season bc we leased it the next year....let me tell u how awesome that was


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935060
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One of the reasons I've never liked dealing with Westervelt. They love to do this sort of thing.


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935065
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Seems like if money is the issue, then they'd give you a chance to bid higher. If it was my bridge, I'd tannerite it on the way out!

Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935077
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Originally Posted By: JTapia


well when you call them out there and discuss what they would consider the Ideal lessee and then do what their biologist asked us to do and then some. Do everything by the book and run a good clean trophy club you should have the reasonable expectation that your renewal is automatic as long as we want to be there. We got approval and built roads and a bridge and had community food plots maintained year round that nobody hunted, we were the ideal costumer. That didn't matter though I guess someone offered a dollar an acre more than we were giving.


Ding ding ding!! We have a winner. Sorry you're going through it but you head the nail on the head. At the end of day they let you make ALL the ideal improvements then pulled it from you for more money. That's my guess anyway.


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935104
04/15/14 04:40 PM
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That sucks man. I hate it for you. I have not heard many positive comments on how they treat thier customers.

Maybe you can destroy anything of value you added to the lease before they benefit from an extra $0.75 per acre and kick y'all to the curb.

Sounds like everyone needs to be aware ... Westervelt will screw you, so use thier resource up and don't add anything extra to your leased property. They disrespect thier customers

Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935116
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Hate to hear this. i wouldnt lease from anyone that would pull my lease to give it to someone else.

Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935147
04/15/14 05:23 PM
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Man hate to hear that.We lost a 1000 acres to Peavey last year, got outbid by 8grand...


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935149
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Thanks for the support guys. I think I'll take Daniel Whites advice and contact Bill Baker myself.

These guys have been straight up with us for the entire length of our time there.
The club I was in before this one leased the same area and has alot of the same members. Our "President took all of out money paid to him for our lease payment and splurged on himself. We had quite the surprise opening day when we were met at the gate by Westervelt and GW telling us that we were trespassing because we had no lease due to non payment.

Bill Baker worked with us and we were able to lease the same area for $1.00 and acre that year. So we quickly formed this club and have operated as the current club ever since. They treated us good up until now.

Needless to say they'll get no recommendations from me after this.


Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935151
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They (Westervelt) offered to swap our 1500 acre lease in Bibb Co. for a 1000 lease in Pickens Co. about 4 years into our lease. We declined. Oddly enough this was the season after we took 4 130"+ deer off the property.

Don't put anything past them. I have learned that from pure experience with them.


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Enough Said....
Re: Sucky email today [Re: M48scout] #935154
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Originally Posted By: M48scout
That sucks man. I hate it for you. I have not heard many positive comments on how they treat thier customers.

Maybe you can destroy anything of value you added to the lease before they benefit from an extra $0.75 per acre and kick y'all to the curb.

Sounds like everyone needs to be aware ... Westervelt will screw you, so use thier resource up and don't add anything extra to your leased property. They disrespect thier customers


They want us to "clean up the range area"....I'll do just that LOL They'll have a 100 yard swath of empty dirt when I am through. I'll use the back stop to fill in our water hole we dug, at their suggestion, and I may just take a chainsaw to the bridge. It aint much, just something to get a 4 wheeler across a small creek behind the camp area.

I am just glad that we decided to not install a septic system like they wanted us to do last year. We just used portable storage tanks and carried them out when we left and emptied them at work.


Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935173
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Where is the club land located? Gotta be NE or E of PC.

Re: Sucky email today [Re: timbercruiser] #935178
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Where is the club land located? Gotta be NE or E of PC.


Yes, east of PC

Their relocation options are NE of PC in northern Bay County and Calhoun County


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935185
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Don't let westervelt know about the big bucks you kill either. I have had more than one person tell me that they have lost leases due to big bucks. I was in a club a while back that didn't report accurate weights or antler sizes because they were afraid westervelt would up their lease or take it.


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: Remington270] #935191
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Seems like if money is the issue, then they'd give you a chance to bid higher. If it was my bridge, I'd tannerite it on the way out!


In this case, I would definitely burn my bridges. Pardon the pun. I would also burn anything else before leaving it for someone else to have.

Re: Sucky email today [Re: JTapia] #935397
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Bill Baker mad Never had a good experience with that guy! They do what they want and do buddy/cousin/employee deals all the time. I knew of an employee there that had thousands of acres he was getting at half what anyone else would pay.


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: Booger] #935473
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Originally Posted By: Booger
Don't let westervelt know about the big bucks you kill either. I have had more than one person tell me that they have lost leases due to big bucks. I was in a club a while back that didn't report accurate weights or antler sizes because they were afraid westervelt would up their lease or take it.


^^^This^^^


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: Booger] #935479
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Originally Posted By: Booger
Don't let westervelt know about the big bucks you kill either. I have had more than one person tell me that they have lost leases due to big bucks. I was in a club a while back that didn't report accurate weights or antler sizes because they were afraid westervelt would up their lease or take it.



Damn, 2 years ago I sat out there and showed Bill Baker several 110-130 class 10 pointers that I had on trailcam


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Re: Sucky email today [Re: Bowfool] #935481
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Originally Posted By: Bowfool
Bill Baker mad Never had a good experience with that guy! They do what they want and do buddy/cousin/employee deals all the time. I knew of an employee there that had thousands of acres he was getting at half what anyone else would pay.


I've called him twice now this morning and have yet to receive a call back yet. We'll see if he is as willing to work with us as he has been in the past.


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