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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935017
04/15/14 03:51 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,953 Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Bummer. Hate that for y'all, Tapia.
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: tfd1224]
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04/15/14 03:51 PM
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Posts: 15,980 Brierfield
Beadlescomb
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i wouldnt be surprised to see westervelt lodge #2 pop up there. it would be a really good plan, "hey guys instead of spending company money to get this place like we want it we can let some poor sapsucker do the work for us and make money off of them and yank the lease out from under them after deer season to ensure they dont go on a were losing the lease killing spree" they will probably be booking hunts in a few months That's the exactly the kind of stuff the company I work for would do.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935052
04/15/14 04:07 PM
04/15/14 04:07 PM
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Posts: 8,753 bessemer, al
hunterturf
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I thought the current leasee has first dibs on renewing the lease?? Westervelt leased to dog clubs in 2011/12 season bc we leased it the next year....let me tell u how awesome that was
Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers.......... Si Robertson
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935060
04/15/14 04:11 PM
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Posts: 28,987 Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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One of the reasons I've never liked dealing with Westervelt. They love to do this sort of thing.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935077
04/15/14 04:19 PM
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ford150man
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well when you call them out there and discuss what they would consider the Ideal lessee and then do what their biologist asked us to do and then some. Do everything by the book and run a good clean trophy club you should have the reasonable expectation that your renewal is automatic as long as we want to be there. We got approval and built roads and a bridge and had community food plots maintained year round that nobody hunted, we were the ideal costumer. That didn't matter though I guess someone offered a dollar an acre more than we were giving.
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner. Sorry you're going through it but you head the nail on the head. At the end of day they let you make ALL the ideal improvements then pulled it from you for more money. That's my guess anyway.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935147
04/15/14 05:23 PM
04/15/14 05:23 PM
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Posts: 52,200 Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
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Man hate to hear that.We lost a 1000 acres to Peavey last year, got outbid by 8grand...
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935149
04/15/14 05:25 PM
04/15/14 05:25 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,636 Florida Panhandle
JTapia
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Thanks for the support guys. I think I'll take Daniel Whites advice and contact Bill Baker myself.
These guys have been straight up with us for the entire length of our time there. The club I was in before this one leased the same area and has alot of the same members. Our "President took all of out money paid to him for our lease payment and splurged on himself. We had quite the surprise opening day when we were met at the gate by Westervelt and GW telling us that we were trespassing because we had no lease due to non payment.
Bill Baker worked with us and we were able to lease the same area for $1.00 and acre that year. So we quickly formed this club and have operated as the current club ever since. They treated us good up until now.
Needless to say they'll get no recommendations from me after this.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
#935151
04/15/14 05:28 PM
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Posts: 5,103 McCalla, Alabama
MarkBAMA
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12 point
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Posts: 5,103
McCalla, Alabama
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They (Westervelt) offered to swap our 1500 acre lease in Bibb Co. for a 1000 lease in Pickens Co. about 4 years into our lease. We declined. Oddly enough this was the season after we took 4 130"+ deer off the property.
Don't put anything past them. I have learned that from pure experience with them.
ROLL TIDE !!!
Enough Said....
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: M48scout]
#935154
04/15/14 05:31 PM
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Posts: 1,636 Florida Panhandle
JTapia
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That sucks man. I hate it for you. I have not heard many positive comments on how they treat thier customers.
Maybe you can destroy anything of value you added to the lease before they benefit from an extra $0.75 per acre and kick y'all to the curb.
Sounds like everyone needs to be aware ... Westervelt will screw you, so use thier resource up and don't add anything extra to your leased property. They disrespect thier customers They want us to "clean up the range area"....I'll do just that LOL They'll have a 100 yard swath of empty dirt when I am through. I'll use the back stop to fill in our water hole we dug, at their suggestion, and I may just take a chainsaw to the bridge. It aint much, just something to get a 4 wheeler across a small creek behind the camp area. I am just glad that we decided to not install a septic system like they wanted us to do last year. We just used portable storage tanks and carried them out when we left and emptied them at work.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: timbercruiser]
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04/15/14 06:07 PM
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JTapia
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Where is the club land located? Gotta be NE or E of PC. Yes, east of PC Their relocation options are NE of PC in northern Bay County and Calhoun County
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: JTapia]
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04/15/14 06:39 PM
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Don't let westervelt know about the big bucks you kill either. I have had more than one person tell me that they have lost leases due to big bucks. I was in a club a while back that didn't report accurate weights or antler sizes because they were afraid westervelt would up their lease or take it.
GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: Remington270]
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04/15/14 07:27 PM
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BrotherTurtle
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Seems like if money is the issue, then they'd give you a chance to bid higher. If it was my bridge, I'd tannerite it on the way out! In this case, I would definitely burn my bridges. Pardon the pun. I would also burn anything else before leaving it for someone else to have.
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Re: Sucky email today
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#935397
04/16/14 05:48 AM
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Posts: 5,577 Tuscaloosa, AL
Bowfool
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Bill Baker Never had a good experience with that guy! They do what they want and do buddy/cousin/employee deals all the time. I knew of an employee there that had thousands of acres he was getting at half what anyone else would pay.
‘Obama Is the Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated on the American People’ - Clint Eastwood
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: Booger]
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04/16/14 07:26 AM
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Don't let westervelt know about the big bucks you kill either. I have had more than one person tell me that they have lost leases due to big bucks. I was in a club a while back that didn't report accurate weights or antler sizes because they were afraid westervelt would up their lease or take it. ^^^This^^^
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: Booger]
#935479
04/16/14 07:32 AM
04/16/14 07:32 AM
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Posts: 1,636 Florida Panhandle
JTapia
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Don't let westervelt know about the big bucks you kill either. I have had more than one person tell me that they have lost leases due to big bucks. I was in a club a while back that didn't report accurate weights or antler sizes because they were afraid westervelt would up their lease or take it. Damn, 2 years ago I sat out there and showed Bill Baker several 110-130 class 10 pointers that I had on trailcam
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Sucky email today
[Re: Bowfool]
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04/16/14 07:35 AM
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Posts: 1,636 Florida Panhandle
JTapia
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8 point
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Bill Baker Never had a good experience with that guy! They do what they want and do buddy/cousin/employee deals all the time. I knew of an employee there that had thousands of acres he was getting at half what anyone else would pay. I've called him twice now this morning and have yet to receive a call back yet. We'll see if he is as willing to work with us as he has been in the past.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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