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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934120
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my point is you didnt read it. a poodle will bite. And can be trained very easily to attack. I would not leave a small child unattened around a poodle. Do you think any parents that leaves there child unattended around any large dogs is capable of giving the dog the care and attention it requires and deserves.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: JTapia] #934122
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What is your angle? Why continue to defend the breed? The things are dangerous...PERIOD. They may not snap, but if they do you are in trouble.

Just because you were raised with Pits only shows that you had some ignorant ass parents.

If you want to own one...do it. A parent of a child owning one is just plain neglect IMO.


Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: trox28
For some reason its not showing a pic in the upper right hand corner when i look at it.Im sure once the dog/dogs killed someone and were quarantined it was determined by someone that knows more about dogs than me whether the dogs were pit or not.If a vet calls a dog a pit its a pit in my eyes.


Hummm...I don't know LOL
I agree though, I am sure that someone with authority will call the animal the proper breed which is why I mentioned that almost all these attacks listed were of Mixed Breed. They then throw in the word Pit for effect.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: burbank] #934132
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Originally Posted By: burbank
What is your angle? Why continue to defend the breed? The things are dangerous...PERIOD. They may not snap, but if they do you are in trouble.

Just because you were raised with Pits only shows that you had some ignorant ass parents.

If you want to own one...do it. A parent of a child owning one is just plain neglect IMO.


Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: trox28
For some reason its not showing a pic in the upper right hand corner when i look at it.Im sure once the dog/dogs killed someone and were quarantined it was determined by someone that knows more about dogs than me whether the dogs were pit or not.If a vet calls a dog a pit its a pit in my eyes.


Hummm...I don't know LOL
I agree though, I am sure that someone with authority will call the animal the proper breed which is why I mentioned that almost all these attacks listed were of Mixed Breed. They then throw in the word Pit for effect.


I have no angle just seeing some ridiculous stuff being posted that is untrue.

I see no reason to get all personal and insult my parents because you are afraid of a dog.
I just don't appreciate the personal attack as I have not been disrespectful of anyone on here.

With that I ask what is your angle? What could be so upsetting to you about a breed of dog that you would resort to insulting the parents of a man you don't even know? Makes me question the raising that your parents provided you which could be called ignorant assed.
you sound like those Liberal Left Occupy types that hurl insults when they can't get their way and have no intelligent thoughts or facts to put forth. Don't be those guys!.

I am 52 years old and have never been bitten by a Pit Bull. How old are you and how many times have you been bitten?

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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934145
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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934155
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When I'm on a walk in my neighborhood with my family (including a 5 yr old and infant in a stroller) and I walk past a house with a snarling pit bull (or pit mix ... Whatever ... Semantics) it makes me so damned mad to think what could be seconds from happening. Then to look at the stupid owner smiling and explaining "she's just protective" or whatever. ... screw them.

My choices are 1) don't walk in my neighborhood, 2) endure the risk 3) carry a firearm and deal with the fallout should I need to use it.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: M48scout] #934157
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Originally Posted By: M48scout
When I'm on a walk in my neighborhood with my family (including a 5 yr old and infant in a stroller) and I walk past a house with a snarling pit bull (or pit mix ... Whatever ... Semantics) it makes me so damned mad to think what could be seconds from happening. Then to look at the stupid owner smiling and explaining "she's just protective" or whatever. ... screw them.

My choices are 1) don't walk in my neighborhood, 2) endure the risk 3) carry a firearm and deal with the fallout should I need to use it.


I would choose option #3


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934159
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Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934167
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This fellow that lives near the school here has one chained up to his front porch. I see kids walking back and forth and the whole time it's jerking and lunging 10 ft away. His neighbor has two little gilrs that stay outside playing and the dog barks at them constantly. It's just a matter of time.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: R_H_Clark] #934169
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: JTapia] #934184
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Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


You still refuse to see the statistics and argue that all dogs bite.
32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (25) and rottweilers (1), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 81% of the total recorded deaths in 2013. This same combination accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 9-year period of 2005 to 2013.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 9-year period. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 33, about one citizen every 99.5 days.

I say yea, Rottweilers are dangerous too, so go ahead and kill them too. All the others, not so much.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: R_H_Clark] #934198
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


You still refuse to see the statistics and argue that all dogs bite.
32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (25) and rottweilers (1), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 81% of the total recorded deaths in 2013. This same combination accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 9-year period of 2005 to 2013.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 9-year period. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 33, about one citizen every 99.5 days.

I say yea, Rottweilers are dangerous too, so go ahead and kill them too. All the others, not so much.
Why not every dog on the list thats murdered people..There's a lot of people that refuse to see statistics on here.Take the German Sheppard murdered nearly couple dozen people!!!.I say one life is one to many....


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: James] #934202
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Originally Posted By: james
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


You still refuse to see the statistics and argue that all dogs bite.
32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (25) and rottweilers (1), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 81% of the total recorded deaths in 2013. This same combination accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 9-year period of 2005 to 2013.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 9-year period. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 33, about one citizen every 99.5 days.

I say yea, Rottweilers are dangerous too, so go ahead and kill them too. All the others, not so much.
Why not every dog on the list thats murdered people..There's a lot of people that refuse to see statistics on here.Take the German Sheppard murdered nearly couple dozen people!!!.I say one life is one to many....


Fine with me! Take them out too.

Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: R_H_Clark] #934204
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


You still refuse to see the statistics and argue that all dogs bite.
32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (25) and rottweilers (1), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 81% of the total recorded deaths in 2013. This same combination accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 9-year period of 2005 to 2013.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 9-year period. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 33, about one citizen every 99.5 days.

I say yea, Rottweilers are dangerous too, so go ahead and kill them too. All the others, not so much.


I don't refuse to see statistics. I just know that they are incorrect. I can get online and find statistics that will cut that number by over half as far as actual Pit Bull attacks and not Mixed breed attacks or mis identified breeds.

What you all refuse to admit is that the Pit Bull is the most mis Identified breed dog out there and these biased web site scare tactics get folks like yall all up in arms about a particular breed when that breed is not as responsible as they are portrayed to be. That is all I am saying.
Even the stories that follow these "Statistics" list the majority of the dogs as Mixed breeds! This just further proves my point that i this website is just a biased site with an agenda. They'll spin whatever stats they have to prove their agenda driven point.

https://suite.io/mia-carter/1c0a23d
http://brindlestick.blogspot.com/2009/10/denver-mis-identification-process.html

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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: James] #934209
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Originally Posted By: james
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


You still refuse to see the statistics and argue that all dogs bite.
32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (25) and rottweilers (1), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 81% of the total recorded deaths in 2013. This same combination accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 9-year period of 2005 to 2013.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 9-year period. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 33, about one citizen every 99.5 days.

I say yea, Rottweilers are dangerous too, so go ahead and kill them too. All the others, not so much.
Why not every dog on the list thats murdered people..There's a lot of people that refuse to see statistics on here.Take the German Sheppard murdered nearly couple dozen people!!!.I say one life is one to many....


Kill em all.


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: JTapia] #934212
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Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: JTapia
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Carry a gun and a little treat in a piece of meat in case the owner isn't around. Kill a Pit, save a child.

What happens if it is a German Shepard? Doberman? Rottweiler? Labrador Retriever? Boxer? Boston Terrier" (those little mugs are vicious) Dachshund (Also vicious little cusses)

I currently owns a little white fuzzy mutt rescue dog and a Boston Terrier /Cocker Spaniel mix. However after my last Pit died about 15 years ago I only owned Dachshunds until they both passed away about 5 years ago and we got these two now.


You still refuse to see the statistics and argue that all dogs bite.
32 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2013. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 78% (25) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (25) and rottweilers (1), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 81% of the total recorded deaths in 2013. This same combination accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 9-year period of 2005 to 2013.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 9-year period. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 33, about one citizen every 99.5 days.

I say yea, Rottweilers are dangerous too, so go ahead and kill them too. All the others, not so much.


I don't refuse to see statistics. I just know that they are incorrect. I can get online and find statistics that will cut that number by over half as far as actual Pit Bull attacks and not Mixed breed attacks or mis identified breeds.

What you all refuse to admit is that the Pit Bull is the most mis Identified breed dog out there and these biased web site scare tactics get folks like yall all up in arms about a particular breed when that breed is not as responsible as they are portrayed to be. That is all I am saying.
Even the stories that follow these "Statistics" list the majority of the dogs as Mixed breeds! This just further proves my point that i this website is just a biased site with an agenda. They'll spin whatever stats they have to prove their agenda driven point.

https://suite.io/mia-carter/1c0a23d


So you'd sit there and say pitbull's and bulldog mixes aren't more dangerous than any other dog?


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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934274
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. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days


so over 176 deaths in 9 years and yawl ready to do away with something. to be so concered with life why havent yawl found out what other life losing statistics are. More children die from abuse in one state in one year than that. u claim to be symapathetic towards human life and especially children. But the truth is your just anti pit. it will never happen. But say they did outlaw pits. You have done very little to save human life. That only accounts for a very small percentage of deaths. I hope yawl have this "save the world" and " i'll give up what ever freedoms yawl want" attitude when it comes to something that affects you. maybe yawl should research what the #1 cause of child related deaths in america is and do what you can to outlaw that


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You know , I don't know if I have ever heard a bigger crock of $hit , people are scared of something they know nothing about or have never been around. "Kill them all", who made you God? M48scout's opinion is personal not facts, and it is just that an opinion, they are like #ssholes , everybody has one. I agree with the one statement I read earlier, I think it was Goodman Hunter that said, it is the people that train any dog that cannot be controlled or to be overly aggressive that should be held responsible. I don't own a pit, but I have been around all types of bulldogs and never been attacked or bitten. I guess a lot of these opinions are kind of like being a bigot or racist because of the way you were raised. It is kind of like saying all people of one race are bad. Also, all of the statistics everyone is spouting out, all of that can be altered by what is put in and the way the initiator wants it to come out. Just like the old saying you put garbage in, you get garbage out.

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Originally Posted By: goodman_hunter
. From 2005 to 2013, pit bulls killed 176 Americans, about one citizen every 18.6 days


so over 176 deaths in 9 years and yawl ready to do away with something. to be so concered with life why havent yawl found out what other life losing statistics are. More children die from abuse in one state in one year than that. u claim to be symapathetic towards human life and especially children. But the truth is your just anti pit. it will never happen. But say they did outlaw pits. You have done very little to save human life. That only accounts for a very small percentage of deaths. I hope yawl have this "save the world" and " i'll give up what ever freedoms yawl want" attitude when it comes to something that affects you. maybe yawl should research what the #1 cause of child related deaths in america is and do what you can to outlaw that




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Re: Pit bull fatalities 2013 [Re: Gotcha1] #934297
04/15/14 07:06 AM
04/15/14 07:06 AM
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Yea, the #1 reason for child deaths are stupid people and apparently you can't fix stupid.

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