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Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching #85703
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On monday Dec 20, 2010 I killed a deer that I had been hunting since the season started. I put out camera's before the season and got pictures of this deer in early OCT. On tuesday Dec 21, 2010 I had this deer at my place of business in the middle of town letting all my friends look at it. On the evening before when I was getting ready to move the deer I completed the harvest record that I was given when I bought my Lic. About 12pm on tuesday my buddies and I watched the GW drive by my car lot several times. My friend Brian told me that the GW was looking for me. So we sat there and waited till SHE found me. OFFICER DEBRA DIXON. She pulled up in front of the building got out and I immediately walked over to her. She asked who's truck that was. She ask who's deer that was. I told her that both were mine. She went over and looked a my deer. Ask for my LIC and Harvest record. I gave them to her. She immediately told me that I was in violation.

I had my lic. and I had the piece of paper that walmart gives out THAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE TO BUY A LIC.

Well I filled out the wrong one. And that meant I had a dup.

So I was in violation. NOT the reg states that I have to being doing this for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation.

I CLEARLY WAS NOT. THERE WERE 15 PEOPLE THERE LOOKING AT THIS DEER. 2 NEWSPAPERS HAD CAME AND WROTE A STORY ON IT. I HAD IT OUT IN PLAN SITE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

Yes I made a mistake. But I was not in violation. If I had been trying to get out of writing it down. I would have just given her the dup. and told her I was hunting on my own land. Or I would have told her that I killed it in another state. Which I have Lic in 3 other states.

I told the simple honest truth. And she found a reason to ticket me.

I will be going to court. And I will be asking for a Jury Trail. And I will find out if She is on Commission.

Oh and for all of you that think I deserve this ticket. If you have a hunting pamplet with you or in your truck. YOU HAVE A DUP. HARVEST RECORD.

SHE SCREWED UP ONE OF THE HAPPIEST DAYS OF MY LIFE. I HAVE NEVER BEEN CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. I TWO AM A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORP. 6 YEARS 2 WARS.

I AM STARTING TO HAVE DISRESPECT FOR OUR GW'S

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #85709
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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
On monday Dec 20, 2010 I killed a deer that I had been hunting since the season started. I put out camera's before the season and got pictures of this deer in early OCT. On tuesday Dec 21, 2010 I had this deer at my place of business in the middle of town letting all my friends look at it. On the evening before when I was getting ready to move the deer I completed the harvest record that I was given when I bought my Lic. About 12pm on tuesday my buddies and I watched the GW drive by my car lot several times. My friend Brian told me that the GW was looking for me. So we sat there and waited till SHE found me. OFFICER DEBRA DIXON. She pulled up in front of the building got out and I immediately walked over to her. She asked who's truck that was. She ask who's deer that was. I told her that both were mine. She went over and looked a my deer. Ask for my LIC and Harvest record. I gave them to her. She immediately told me that I was in violation.

I had my lic. and I had the piece of paper that walmart gives out THAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE TO BUY A LIC.

Well I filled out the wrong one. And that meant I had a dup.

So I was in violation. NOT the reg states that I have to being doing this for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation.

I CLEARLY WAS NOT. THERE WERE 15 PEOPLE THERE LOOKING AT THIS DEER. 2 NEWSPAPERS HAD CAME AND WROTE A STORY ON IT. I HAD IT OUT IN PLAN SITE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

Yes I made a mistake. But I was not in violation. If I had been trying to get out of writing it down. I would have just given her the dup. and told her I was hunting on my own land. Or I would have told her that I killed it in another state. Which I have Lic in 3 other states.

I told the simple honest truth. And she found a reason to ticket me.

I will be going to court. And I will be asking for a Jury Trail. And I will find out if She is on Commission.


Stuff like that pisses me off, Most people that hunt and fish are good people, Wardens should not be looking for a reason to give a ticket to an honest person for a honest mistake. However, if we had tags that had to be fixed to the antlers it would eliminate alot of this confusion.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #85718
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fact: you were in violation by having TWO harvest records
fact: you cannot get a jury trial in District Court. You can plead not guilty and a Judge will decide a verdict. If guilty you can appeal the case to Circuit Court and ask for a jury trial. You can skip the District Court trial by "stipulating to the facts" to the DC Judge and appealing the case right off.
fact: "she" is NOT on commission, no GW is.

I'd a thought a warning would of got the job done there, but I wasn't there either so my opinion dosent count.

troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #85719
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Yea Fred, I guess by the letter of the law I was in violation. But by the spirit of the Law I was not. And If you read the law. I was not in violation. It clearly states that I have to be doing this to avoid the requirements of this reg. READ IT.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #85720
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
fact: you were in violation by having TWO harvest records
fact: you cannot get a jury trial in District Court. You can plead not guilty and a Judge will decide a verdict. If guilty you can appeal the case to Circuit Court and ask for a jury trial. You can skip the District Court trial by "stipulating to the facts" to the DC Judge and appealing the case right off.
fact: "she" is NOT on commission, no GW is.

I'd a thought a warning would of got the job done there, but I wasn't there either so my opinion dosent count.

troy


This man knows what he is talking about.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: doekiller] #85724
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well I want to hear what everyone thinks. I thought that GW Fred would see it that way. I am a big boy. LET ME HAVE IT. IF YOU THINK I AM WRONG LET ME KNOW. I can tell you that I don't have much money. But I will spend all I got defending myself here.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #85737
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I was saying Fred was right about what the law says. I would recommend getting a lawyer and fighting it. You can have a trial in front of the Judge in District court, if you lose, appeal to Circuit Court and ask for a Jury Trial.

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Yea I know Fred is right about what the law says. I can tell you that every hunter I know has a dup. IF YOU HAVE THE BOOK you have a dup.

What gets me is that, I was so proud of this deer. I clearly would have done nuthing to screw up this kill. I knew the game warden was looking for me. IF I HAD KNOWN I WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG I HAD PLENTLY OF TIME TO FIX IT.

So she just wrote the ticket to be a JERK.

ALL HUNTERS ARE NOT OUTLAWS. I AM NOT A OUTLAW. AND I AM MAD ABOUT THIS TICKET.

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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
Yea Fred, I guess by the letter of the law I was in violation. But by the spirit of the Law I was not. And If you read the law. I was not in violation. It clearly states that I have to be doing this to avoid the requirements of this reg. READ IT.


I have read em for a living.....

read it yerself, this time slower, and up yer reading comprehension.....

it is a violation to POSSESS two harvest records...period. You were in violation of this part.

it is a violation to provide false information in order to circumvent the requirements of the regulation...from what LITTLE I personally know of this incident it dosen't look to me like you tried to circumvent the regulation.

I'd a felt a warning would of worked here.

troy


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FACT: WARDENS ARE A-HOLES.
FACT: WARDENS LIKE WRITING TICKETS
FACT: WARDENS MAKE MISTAKES
FACT: SOME WARDENS ARE GOOD
FACT: FINDING A GOOD WARDEN IS VERY HARD IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BibbCounty] #85782
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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
On monday Dec 20, 2010 I killed a deer that I had been hunting since the season started. I put out camera's before the season and got pictures of this deer in early OCT. On tuesday Dec 21, 2010 I had this deer at my place of business in the middle of town letting all my friends look at it. On the evening before when I was getting ready to move the deer I completed the harvest record that I was given when I bought my Lic. About 12pm on tuesday my buddies and I watched the GW drive by my car lot several times. My friend Brian told me that the GW was looking for me. So we sat there and waited till SHE found me. OFFICER DEBRA DIXON. She pulled up in front of the building got out and I immediately walked over to her. She asked who's truck that was. She ask who's deer that was. I told her that both were mine. She went over and looked a my deer. Ask for my LIC and Harvest record. I gave them to her. She immediately told me that I was in violation.

I had my lic. and I had the piece of paper that walmart gives out THAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE TO BUY A LIC.

Well I filled out the wrong one. And that meant I had a dup.

So I was in violation. NOT the reg states that I have to being doing this for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation.

I CLEARLY WAS NOT. THERE WERE 15 PEOPLE THERE LOOKING AT THIS DEER. 2 NEWSPAPERS HAD CAME AND WROTE A STORY ON IT. I HAD IT OUT IN PLAN SITE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

Yes I made a mistake. But I was not in violation. If I had been trying to get out of writing it down. I would have just given her the dup. and told her I was hunting on my own land. Or I would have told her that I killed it in another state. Which I have Lic in 3 other states.

I told the simple honest truth. And she found a reason to ticket me.

I will be going to court. And I will be asking for a Jury Trail. And I will find out if She is on Commission.


Stuff like that pisses me off, Most people that hunt and fish are good people, Wardens should not be looking for a reason to give a ticket to an honest person for a honest mistake. However, if we had tags that had to be fixed to the antlers it would eliminate alot of this confusion.



I've been saying that since they started that joke of a "tagging system". It's unenforcable and only applies to the ethical, honest hunters that make every effort to obey all laws.

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It sounds as though you were trying to do the right thing.
I hope if I'm ever in that situation, I get stopped by Andy instead of Barney.
You broke the law and she felt the need to enforce it to an extreme.
I hope you win!


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So you are telling me that because I keep my state regs book in my truck with the harvest record and the one that comes with the license in my wallet that I am in violation of the law?
Well in that case I figure about 95% of us are in violation without even knowing it.Seems like that is sorda being set up for a ticket.If that is the case I believe the one in the book should not be in there.

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So sorry to hear about this. I've said it before, but the only people this law will ever catch is a guy that makes a mistake in his paperwork. The real outlaw can easily figure out how to get around it. One of the main reasons I wanted the Barbour Co rule instead of a limit was that it would avoid situations like this. But that ship has sailed, and now we have the criminals still killing all the bucks they want, and a few honest guys that make a paperwork mistake get a ticket.:(


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Yes, If I had been a outlaw. I would tell the gw that I shot it on my own land and never gave her my lic. then I could kill as many as I want to. Get a new form and shoot them up again.

This is the kind of shiiiiit that makes you disrespect the gw. She knew I did nothing wrong. She just wanted to be a jerk in front of a bunch of guys. She is not even assigned to my county. She was looking for me to write me a ticket. PERIOD.

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...because we all know that only the guilty and people with bad moral judgment end up in court or come in contact with the wildlife officials.

Keep drinking that Kool-aid.



Sorry for the issues your having, I am also battling a run in with a biologist.


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Originally Posted By: globe
It sounds as though you were trying to do the right thing.
I hope if I'm ever in that situation, I get stopped by Andy instead of Barney.
You broke the law and she felt the need to enforce it to an extreme.
I hope you win!


thats the key, getting checked by those with good judgement. I have found in most cases when dealing with women in a position of authority, they push things to extremes...kinda like Barney.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Dquailhunter] #85944
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Originally Posted By: Dquailhunter
So you are telling me that because I keep my state regs book in my truck with the harvest record and the one that comes with the license in my wallet that I am in violation of the law?
Well in that case I figure about 95% of us are in violation without even knowing it.Seems like that is sorda being set up for a ticket.If that is the case I believe the one in the book should not be in there.


ok, this is why we need clarification here, because neither the original post nor any of the follow up posts are clear on **exactly* WHAT TWO PIECES/ITEMS OF PAPER the victim ( Mr. Gillaspie) was charged with being in possession of! It kind of sounds like the two pieces of paper were the one attached to the license when the license is purchased and another harvest record like the one that can be printed off the DCNR website and copied.

Will someone make this perfectly completely clear please!

I cannot imagine that anyone would be or could ever be charged with being in possession of two harvest records where one of them is the small magazine style reg. book handed out for free at WalMart that has a sample harvest record form on one of the pages??????

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I had my Lic and harvest record attached. I also had a harvest record that looked exactly like the one on the back of my Lic. That is the one I filled out. Dumb mistake.

When I bought my lic. at walmart. Clerk handed the Dup. to me and told me to make sure and fill it out if I shot a Buck.

I had two harvest records. I filled out the wrong one. What I should have done was fill out the one on the back of my Lic. OK I WAS WRONG. I did not do it to cheat the system. I just did not know any better. (again my fault)

What I am saying is tho. I got sited for having two harvest records. EVERYONE HAS TWO if you have the pamplet.

The governor says to use the form in the pamplet. He says that in the front of the book.

LOOK I WAS WRONG. I KNOW THAT. But I was not trying to cheat the law. the law states and I quote

Paragraph 6. "It shall be a violation of this regulation to obtain, possess, or utilize duplicate harvest record forms, or to provide false information on harvest record forms, for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation."

I clearly was not doing it for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation. EVERYONE WAS AT MY WORK LOOKING AT THIS DEER.

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Sounds like one problem was listening to the person who works at Walmart.


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CLEM you are right, I never said that is not right. What I am saying is that it was a honest mistake. IF I HAD BEEN TRYING TO AVOID THAT LAW I COULD HAVE LIED

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I didn't say it wasn't an honest mistake. Just trying to interject a little levity. I've never had a Walmart clerk give me a 'harvest report' with my license. Guess they were trying to be nice without realizing it might cause a problem.

I agree it's something that is problematic, especially for you now, and could have been handled better by the GW.


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It sounds like about the only way out is to go to a jury trial.

You can probably beat it there.

Fact is, you broke the letter of the Law and ignorance of that Law is no excuse in Court.
But, I don't think that you broke the INTENT of the Law and a jury's judegement will probably agree.

It sure sounds like the GW was 'sicced' on you.
Watch your back!

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #86000
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
fact: you were in violation by having TWO harvest records


I was in possession of two harvest records all season long. One was mine, one was my 10 year old son's. Could some jack leg warden with an agenda claim I was in violation too? CD.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: CD] #86010
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I was thinking the same thing. I had 3 (mine, sons, and daughters) with me and I keep the hunting digest in my backpack, so I essentially have 4 harvest records on me at all times. Scary to think I could be charged for trying to do the right thing.


Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.

I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.

Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.

Your mind is your primary weapon. Never let it get rusty.
Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: bama7x57] #86022
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Well I think the whole reason why I got ticketed is because I used the wrong one and that meant that I showed her that I had two.

OH well you live and you learn. Just pisses me off because I was trying to obey the law.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86026
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BTW, we need to see the a pic of this buck!!


Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.

I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.

Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.

Your mind is your primary weapon. Never let it get rusty.
Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86034
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I posted pictures of this buck already. but I think it was before the crash. It grossed 179.25. The largest I have heard of this year in Alabama

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86058
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you could carry around a stack of them and not be in violation. However, if you have one attached to your license, you need to fill that one out. I have a lifetime hunting and freshwater fishing license, so I have to get the booklet to get the harvest record out of it every year. If you have your childs harvest record with you as well, you might want to put their name on it so their is no confusion.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: kendall] #86063
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forgot to add, to the warden it appeared you were 'saving' the one attached to your hunting license for later. Pay the ticket and learn from your honest mistake.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: kendall] #86074
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Originally Posted By: kendall
forgot to add, to the warden it appeared you were 'saving' the one attached to your hunting license for later. Pay the ticket and learn from your honest mistake.


And let the warden win? No way!!!!!!!


doecommander out...........................



Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86088
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How much was the ticket for?

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: doecommander] #86090
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Originally Posted By: doecommander
Originally Posted By: kendall
forgot to add, to the warden it appeared you were 'saving' the one attached to your hunting license for later. Pay the ticket and learn from your honest mistake.


And let the warden win? No way!!!!!!!


the warden doesn't care who wins, if the wardens and law enforcement officers took everyone's word that they were innocent, the prisons would be empty. The only other option was a warning to the hunter instead of a ticket.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86104
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I called to fine out how much it was, and my court house said they have never had a ticket like this before. So they called montgomery, court appearence only.. that way they can get me for court cost as well. GUYS THIS IS A BULLSHIT TICKET.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86105
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KENDALL, if i was hiding or trying to beat the stupid reg. I would have lied gave her the dup. told her i was hunting on my land and did not have lic. Like I said this is bogus

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86107
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and no you cannot carry around a stack of them. if that was the case i would not have gotten a ticket. She said "you tried to follow the law, you just have a dup." no where does it say don't cut away this one that is on your lic. so I guess you can fill out that one, cut it away, get another. BULLSHIT LAW

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: bama7x57] #86111
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I'm not exactly sure how all the court thing works out. I can tell you once in Atlanta, I appealed a speeding ticket. Judge asked me if I was sure I wanted to appeal and I said ABSOLUTELY. So she called for the balif, who handcuffed me and put me in a waiting cell. When I asked the judge what was going on, she said, in the state of GA, if you appeal a ticket, you wait in jail until the appeal date or fine is paid. 5 hours later I was standing in front of her pleading guilty to the 105 mph speeding ticket.


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3 DLC Coverts II=After 3 years 2 still work and in the woods.
1 DLC Covert Extreme TL= Great cam.
1 Covert Reveal
2 Bushnell TC=Both repaired, one of them twice. Less than a year old.
Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86124
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the state should just issue tags when you buy a license
and do away with the harvest record!
I guess I was in violation all season because I had a reg book
in my truck...


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86144
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I take a lot of heat for emphasizing that the commissioner is required by law to publish and make available for general distribution all laws together with his rules in pamlet form. The Huntin and Fishing Digest is not official, and it does not contain laws and regulations... it paraphrases the laws and regulations and does it incompletely.

This paragraph of 220-2-.146 is not found in the Hunting and Fishing Digest:

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(3) Hunting license holders whose licenses have a harvest record form on their licenses shall be required to use the harvest record form located on their licenses. All other persons shall utilize a form substantially identical to the form shown in paragraph (2) above.


Anybody who supported the buck limtit and this rule that was attached to it, I don't have any sympathy for you when this kind of crap happens.

Those who wish for more rules to be added to the volumes of rules we already have should just suck it up take it. They ask for it. I've watched it happen for over 50 years and it just gets worse all the time. A lot of good people have lost a lot of money for no good reason thru the years, and lots of good people have lost respect for the DCNR because of it.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #86175
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49'er....Good post

I admit that I am ignorant on this subject.Where can I find and read the actual laws regarding fish and game. Also when "they" add or revise a law how do we go about finding out about it. I realize these are simple questions but I didnt realize that the laws in the hunting and fishing digest were incomplete.



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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #86177
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Originally Posted By: 49er


Anybody who supported the buck limtit and this rule that was attached to it, I don't have any sympathy for you when this kind of crap happens.




lol , they wanted it they got it . now some want even more new laws .

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #86202
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Originally Posted By: 49er
I take a lot of heat for emphasizing that the commissioner is required by law to publish and make available for general distribution all laws together with his rules in pamlet form. The Huntin and Fishing Digest is not official, and it does not contain laws and regulations... it paraphrases the laws and regulations and does it incompletely.

This paragraph of 220-2-.146 is not found in the Hunting and Fishing Digest:

Quote:
(3) Hunting license holders whose licenses have a harvest record form on their licenses shall be required to use the harvest record form located on their licenses. All other persons shall utilize a form substantially identical to the form shown in paragraph (2) above.


Anybody who supported the buck limtit and this rule that was attached to it, I don't have any sympathy for you when this kind of crap happens.

Those who wish for more rules to be added to the volumes of rules we already have should just suck it up take it. They ask for it. I've watched it happen for over 50 years and it just gets worse all the time. A lot of good people have lost a lot of money for no good reason thru the years, and lots of good people have lost respect for the DCNR because of it.




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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86212
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sounds like a typical GW to me


walker coon dogs!
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beagles and buckshot!
Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: bassmaster1228] #86236
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Originally Posted By: bassmaster1228
sounds like a typical GW to me
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I 2nd that! thumbup


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: kendall] #86238
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Originally Posted By: kendall
you could carry around a stack of them and not be in violation. However, if you have one attached to your license, you need to fill that one out. I have a lifetime hunting and freshwater fishing license, so I have to get the booklet to get the harvest record out of it every year. If you have your childs harvest record with you as well, you might want to put their name on it so their is no confusion.


better look up that regulation and read it..possession of more than one harvest record is a violation....

troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Southwood7] #86245
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It shouldn't be hard to find. Our laws and rules are actually quite simple:

Game and Fish Laws, Title 9, Section 11

Call the DCNR and ask for the pamplet the commissioner is required by law to make available to you.

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Article 1 General Provisions.
Section 9-11-1 Definitions.
Section 9-11-2 Acquisition of lands for state game lands; erection, etc., of buildings for propagation of game, birds or fish.
Section 9-11-2.1 Closing of existing hunting lands; replacement acreage; annual reports.
Section 9-11-3 Title and deeds to acquired lands; supervision of same.
Section 9-11-4 State game refuges or sanctuaries; shooting preserves, game refuges, etc., in national forests, etc.
Section 9-11-5 Commissioner, wardens, etc., constituted peace officers.
Section 9-11-6 Violations of fish and game laws - Jurisdiction; reporting of convictions and disposition of fines.
Section 9-11-7 Violations of fish and game laws - District attorneys to prosecute; district attorney's fee.
Section 9-11-8 Violations of fish and game laws - Authority of enforcement officers, etc., generally; arrest without warrant.
Section 9-11-9 Violations of fish and game laws - Service and return of warrant as to firms or corporations.
Section 9-11-10 Violations of fish and game laws - Clerks to report results of prosecutions.
Section 9-11-11 Violations of fish and game laws - Charging of several offenses.
Section 9-11-12 Violations of fish and game laws - Fees of arresting officers.
Section 9-11-13 Violations of fish and game laws - Style of proceedings.
Section 9-11-14 Violations of fish and game laws - Procedure on appeal.
Section 9-11-15 Violations of fish and game laws - Judgment on appeal.
Section 9-11-16 Seizure, forfeiture and disposal of prohibited devices, etc., used in catching, killing, etc., fish or fur-bearing animals.
Section 9-11-17 Deputy game and fish wardens; appointment; duties; authority; revocation of appointment; compensation and status.
Section 9-11-18 Furnishing of equipment for game and fish wardens.
Section 9-11-19 Assent to federal act relating to fish restoration and management projects; disposition of fishing license fees generally.
Section 9-11-20 Release of turkeys into wild areas of state prohibited; exceptions; penalty.
Section 9-11-21 Investigation of hunting deaths by grand jury; reporting of such accidents.
Section 9-11-22 Commercial fishing equipment required to be affixed with tags.
Section 9-11-23 Alabama Marine Resources Endowment Fund.
Section 9-11-24 Violation of fish and game laws - Assessment of court costs.
Section 9-11-25 Licenses and permits not transferable; penalties.
Section 9-11-26 Penalty for offering to sell shellfish, wild fish, or farm-raised fish processed with certain banned drugs.
Article 2 Hunting, Fishing and Trapping Licenses Generally.
Section 9-11-30 Game breeder's license - Issuance; renewal; expiration; fees.
Section 9-11-31 Game breeder's license - Sales by licensee; nonindigenous game breeder option.
Section 9-11-31.1 Game breeder's license - Violations
Section 9-11-32 Duration and scope of licenses.
Section 9-11-33 Hunting and fishing licenses generally - Numbering; delivery of blank licenses to issuing authorities; return of unused licenses and stubs.
Section 9-11-34 Hunting and fishing licenses generally - License cards.
Section 9-11-35 Hunting or fishing license not required of member of armed forces during war.
Section 9-11-35.1 Licensing exception for residents on active military duty.
Section 9-11-36 Issuance of licenses generally - Persons authorized; record.
Section 9-11-37 Issuance of licenses generally - Issuance fee; reports.
Section 9-11-38 Special agents for issuing hunting and fishing licenses - Application for appointment; authority.
Section 9-11-39 Special agents for issuing hunting and fishing licenses - Bond generally; appointment.
Section 9-11-40 Special agents for issuing hunting and fishing licenses - Bond of agents to be payable to judge of probate or license commissioner.
Section 9-11-41 Special agents for issuing hunting and fishing licenses - Furnishing of blank licenses to agents.
Section 9-11-42 Special agents for issuing hunting and fishing licenses - Duties generally; remittance of fees collected, etc., to probate judge or license commissioner.
Section 9-11-43 Responsibility of judge of probate or license commissioner as to licenses; disposition of fees from sale of licenses.
Section 9-11-44 Resident license - Hunting.
Section 9-11-44.1 Certification of completion of approved hunter education course required for issuance of license; penalty; "supervision required" status.
Section 9-11-45 License to hunt on wildlife management areas; fee; violations.
Section 9-11-45.1 Use of crossbows for hunting.
Section 9-11-46 Nonresident hunting licenses - "Small game only."
Section 9-11-47 Nonresident hunting licenses - "All game."
Section 9-11-48 Nonresident hunting licenses - "Trip small game."
Section 9-11-49 Nonresident hunting licenses - "Trip all game."
Section 9-11-49.1 Establishment of bag limits, etc., for certain nonresidents.
Section 9-11-50 Hunting by persons under 16 years of age.
Section 9-11-51 Hunting without license, etc.
Section 9-11-52 Dog trainer's license.
Section 9-11-53 Resident license - Freshwater fishing.
Section 9-11-53.1 Resident license - Saltwater fishing.
Section 9-11-53.2 Resident annual combination saltwater-freshwater licenses; fee; disposition of fee; additional issuance fees.
Section 9-11-53.3 Reciprocal agreement with Florida exempting persons 65 years or older from licensing requirements.
Section 9-11-53.4 Resident seven-day trip freshwater fishing license.
Section 9-11-53.5 Resident seven-day trip saltwater fishing license.
Section 9-11-54 Special fishing license for totally disabled persons; period of validity; request for recertification of disability; fee of issuing authority; definitions.
Section 9-11-55 Nonresident freshwater fishing licenses - Annual license; penalty.
Section 9-11-55.1 Nonresident freshwater fishing licenses - Use of certain trotlines prohibited; inspection of permissible trotlines required; penalties.
Section 9-11-55.2 Nonresident saltwater fishing license; cost; disposition of fees; penalty for violation.
Section 9-11-55.3 Combination nonresident saltwater-freshwater license; fee.
Section 9-11-56 Nonresident freshwater fishing licenses - Trip license; penalty.
Section 9-11-56.1 Nonresident fishing licenses - Commercial license.
Section 9-11-56.2 Annual "Free Fishing Day."
Section 9-11-56.3 Public fishing pier license; saltwater pier fishing license; fees.
Section 9-11-57 Fishing without license.
Section 9-11-58 Licenses of nonresident live fish and minnow dealers; fees of issuing authorities; disposition of fees.
Section 9-11-59 License to capture or kill fur-bearing animals for commercial purposes; traps.
Section 9-11-60 Disposition of funds from sale of fur catchers' licenses; report of licenses issued.
Section 9-11-61 Transporting, etc., furs, skins, or pelts without fur catcher's license.
Section 9-11-62 Fur dealers defined; presumptions.
Section 9-11-63 Fur dealer's license; penalty for violations.
Section 9-11-64 Inspection of books and records of dealers, etc.
Section 9-11-65 Lifetime resident hunting, freshwater fishing and combination licenses.
Section 9-11-65.1 Issuance of hunting and fishing licenses on combination license basis; fees.
Section 9-11-65.2 Lifetime resident saltwater fishing license; combination licenses with freshwater fishing, hunting.
Section 9-11-66 Fishing in Pike County public lake without paying admission fee.
Section 9-11-67 Sportsman's license.
Section 9-11-68 Cost adjustments - Hunting and fishing licenses.
Section 9-11-69 Cost adjustments - Saltwater fishing licenses.
Section 9-11-70 Hunting, fishing, or trapping with revoked or suspended license; licenses not transferable; penalties.
Section 9-11-71 Wildlife heritage license.
Article 3 Fishing Laws.
Section 9-11-80 Public and private waters defined.
Section 9-11-81 Title to freshwater fish vested in state.
Section 9-11-82 Game fish designated.
Section 9-11-83 Commercial or nongame fish designated.
Section 9-11-84 Sale, transportation, etc., of game fish taken from public or private waters.
Section 9-11-85 Game fish to be transported openly; confiscation, etc., of game fish taken or transported illegally.
Section 9-11-86 Limitation on transportation, etc., of game fish beyond boundaries of state.
Section 9-11-87 Means of catching game fish generally.
Section 9-11-88 Catching game or nongame fish by use of gill, trammel, etc., nets.
Section 9-11-89 Use of game fish for bait - Generally.
Section 9-11-90 Use of game fish for bait - Use of sunfish.
Section 9-11-91 Catching, etc., of fish in private ponds, lakes, pools, or reservoirs.
Section 9-11-91.1 Unauthorized fishing from or near fish farm.
Section 9-11-92 Preventing passage of fish up rivers or creeks.
Section 9-11-93 Catching, killing, etc., of fish by use of poisons or explosives.
Section 9-11-94 Catching, killing, etc., of game or nongame fish by means not expressly allowed.
Section 9-11-94.1 Purchase of tags required for each tarpon taken, killed, or harvested.
Section 9-11-95 Disposition of fines, forfeitures, etc.
Article 4 Commercial Fishing in Public Impounded Waters and Navigable Streams.
Section 9-11-140 Use of commercial fishing gear in public impounded waters and navigable streams - When, where, and how permitted.
Section 9-11-141 Use of commercial fishing gear in public impounded waters and navigable streams - License - Required generally.
Section 9-11-142 Use of commercial fishing gear in public impounded waters and navigable streams - License - Individual licenses required; exception for certain assistants.
Section 9-11-143 Use of commercial fishing gear in public impounded waters and navigable streams - License - Issuance; fees; records; disposition of fees.
Section 9-11-144 Use of commercial fishing gear in public impounded waters and navigable streams -License - Expiration.
Section 9-11-145 Use of commercial fishing gear in public impounded waters and navigable streams - License - Forfeiture.
Section 9-11-146 Disposition of proceeds from sale of licenses, etc.
Section 9-11-147 Marking location of and identifying fishing gear.
Section 9-11-148 Game fish taken to be returned to waters; possession of game fish by commercial fishermen.
Section 9-11-149 Use of fishing gear within one-half mile below lock or dam.
Section 9-11-150 Use of fishing gear within 100 yards of mouths of streams, etc., emptying into salt waters or bays.
Section 9-11-151 Seizure, confiscation and disposition of fishing gear used in violation of article.
Section 9-11-152 Shipment or transportation of fish taken in violation of article; seizure, confiscation and disposition of fish illegally transported or shipped.
Section 9-11-153 Wholesale and retail freshwater nongame fish dealers' licenses.
Section 9-11-154 Records of wholesalers and retailers of freshwater nongame fish; inspection, etc., of records.
Section 9-11-155 Applicability of provisions of article.
Section 9-11-156 Penalties for violations of provisions of article.
Article 5 Spearfishing.
Section 9-11-170 Spearing of commercial or nongame fish for sport - When, where and how permitted; notice of competitive events.
Section 9-11-171 Spearing of commercial or nongame fish for sport - License - Required; issuance; fees; disposition of revenue from sale.
Section 9-11-172 Spearing of commercial or nongame fish for sport - License - Display.
Section 9-11-173 Regulation of seasons, hours, etc.
Section 9-11-174 Compliance with water safety laws.
Section 9-11-175 Possession of spear, etc., evidence of spearfishing; exception.
Section 9-11-176 Penalty for violations.
Article 6 Catching of Nongame Fish With Wire Baskets.
Section 9-11-190 Catching of nongame fish from public waters by use of wire baskets - When, where and how permitted.
Section 9-11-191 Catching of nongame fish from public waters by use of wire baskets - License - Required; issuance; fees; disposition of fees.
Section 9-11-192 Licenses not to be sold to persons holding commercial fishing licenses, etc.; sale or offer for sale of fish by licensees, etc.
Section 9-11-193 Obtaining more than four licenses or fishing with more than four baskets.
Section 9-11-194 Marking of baskets.
Section 9-11-195 Destruction of unmarked baskets.
Section 9-11-196 Nongame fish only to be taken, etc., with baskets; return of game fish taken to waters.
Section 9-11-197 Taking of fish from baskets, etc., by unlicensed persons.
Section 9-11-198 Penalty for violations of provisions of article; revocation of licenses.
Article 7 Reciprocal Agreements as to Freshwater Fishing.
Section 9-11-210 Agreements as to fishing in waters of Alabama and of bordering states.
Section 9-11-211 Agreements as to fishing in waters lying between Alabama and adjoining states or partly in Alabama and partly in adjoining state.
Section 9-11-212 Agreements to apply separately to waters lying between Alabama and each agreeing bordering state.
Section 9-11-213 Rights and privileges granted to be exercised in accordance with Alabama laws, etc.
Article 8 Hunting and Trapping of Birds and Game.
Section 9-11-230 Title to wild birds and animals vested in state.
Section 9-11-231 Permits for collection of wild animals, birds, etc., for scientific purposes, etc.
Section 9-11-232 Possession, sale, purchase, etc., of protected wild birds, etc.
Section 9-11-233 Enumeration of birds not protected.
Section 9-11-234 Hunting, etc., of protected birds or animals on state or federal game sanctuaries or refuges.
Section 9-11-235 Taking, etc., of protected birds or animals, raccoons or opossums at night; nighttime hunting of foxes with dogs.
Section 9-11-235.1 Taking, etc., raccoons or opossums at night; weapons used.
Section 9-11-236 Hunting, etc., or possession of protected birds or animals during closed season.
Section 9-11-237 Sale and purchase of game birds and animals including the meat or other product thereof.
Section 9-11-238 Hunting, etc., of wild turkeys with dogs.
Section 9-11-240 Opening of season for hunting, etc., of female deer and unantlered male deer.
Section 9-11-241 Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game during day on lands of another without permission.
Section 9-11-242 Hunting, trapping, etc., of wild game at night on lands of another without permission.
Section 9-11-243 Hunting, trapping, etc., of fur-bearing animals within 10 feet of banks of waters on property of another without permission.
Section 9-11-244 Taking, etc., of protected birds or animals by means of bait.
Section 9-11-245 Unlawful methods of hunting birds or animals protected by law or regulation.
Section 9-11-246 Penalties for violations of provisions of Sections 9-11-244 and 9-11-245.
Section 9-11-247 Taking, keeping, etc., of raccoons for use in "coon on the log" contests.
Section 9-11-248 Permits for holding of "coon on the log" contests.
Section 9-11-249 Penalty for violations of provisions of Sections 9-11-247 and 9-11-248.
Section 9-11-250 Taking, etc., of deer from public waters.
Section 9-11-251 Taking, etc., of deer at night.
Section 9-11-252 Penalties for violations of provisions of Sections 9-11-250 and 9-11-251.
Section 9-11-252.1 Motor vehicle, weapons, etc., used in nighttime deer hunting declared contraband; seizure report; condemnation and forfeiture; disposition of proceeds.
Section 9-11-253 Transportation or shipment of skins or hides of fur-bearing animals without payment of state tax; bonds of dealers.
Section 9-11-254 Limitation as to number of traps for taking, etc., of fur-bearing animals; penalty.
Section 9-11-255 Transportation, shipment, etc., of protected birds or game.
Section 9-11-256 Liability of common carriers, etc., transporting, shipping, etc., protected birds or game.
Section 9-11-257 Hunting or discharge of firearm from, upon, or across public roads, etc.
Section 9-11-258 Persons hunting deer at night liable for killing stock.
Section 9-11-259 Game, birds or animals to be transported openly; confiscation, etc., of game, birds or animals transported or taken illegally.
Section 9-11-260 Acquisition of lands, expenditure of revenues, etc., by commissioner for propagation of game birds, game and fur-bearing animals.
Section 9-11-261 Permits for propagation of game birds, and game or fur-bearing animals for private purposes.
Section 9-11-262 Opening or closing of season for killing of beaver; payment of bounty for killing of beaver.
Section 9-11-263 Consent to acquisition of lands, etc., for establishment of migratory bird reservations.
Section 9-11-264 Liability for injury or damage to persons or domestic animals of persons using traps, etc., to take, capture, etc., fur-bearing animals; exemption of Lawrence County.
Section 9-11-265 Trapping on or from right-of-way of state highway; exemption of Lawrence County.
Section 9-11-265.1 Sections 9-11-264 and 9-11-265 inapplicable in Limestone County.
Section 9-11-266 Checking of traps; hanging or suspending of bait over or within 25 feet of steel trap.
Section 9-11-267 Filing of reports as to animals trapped, purchased, etc., by persons licensed to trap fur-bearing animals and by fur dealers.
Section 9-11-268 Penalty for violations of provisions of Sections 9-11-265, 9-11-266 and 9-11-267.
Section 9-11-269 Protection of flattened musk turtle.
Article 8A Interference with Legal Hunting or Fishing.
Section 9-11-270 Interference with persons legally hunting or fishing.
Section 9-11-271 Activities prohibited.
Section 9-11-272 Obeying order of peace officer.
Section 9-11-273 Limited application.
Section 9-11-274 Penalties.
Section 9-11-275 Construction of article.
Article 9 Reciprocal Agreements as to Waterfowl Hunting.
Section 9-11-280 Agreements as to hunting and taking of waterfowl from waters of Alabama and of bordering states.
Section 9-11-281 Agreements as to hunting and taking of waterfowl from waters lying between Alabama and adjoining states or partly in Alabama and partly in adjoining states.
Section 9-11-282 Agreements to apply separately to waters lying between Alabama and each agreeing bordering state; hunting privileges limited to waterfowl.
Section 9-11-283 Rights and privileges granted to be exercised in accordance with Alabama laws, etc.
Article 10 Wildlife Management Areas.
Section 9-11-300 Establishment.
Section 9-11-301 Fixing of boundaries; promulgation of special rules and regulations for management and protection of areas.
Section 9-11-302 Closing of land or water in areas to hunting and fishing.
Section 9-11-303 Searches and seizures.
Section 9-11-304 Carrying or possession of firearms.
Section 9-11-305 When dogs permitted in areas; liability of owners of dogs at large in areas.
Section 9-11-306 Impoundment of dogs; redemption or destruction of impounded dogs.
Section 9-11-307 Penalties for violations of provisions of article, etc.
Article 11 Possession of Wildlife for Public Exhibition Purposes.
Section 9-11-320 Definitions.
Section 9-11-321 Possession of wildlife in captivity for public exhibition purposes.
Section 9-11-322 Appointment of committee to study and recommend standards for care and treatment of captive wildlife.
Section 9-11-323 Promulgation of regulations prescribing standards for care and treatment of captive wildlife.
Section 9-11-324 Permits to possess wildlife for public exhibition purposes; contents of applications for permits.
Section 9-11-325 Condition in permits to allow inspections; notice of and abatement of violations.
Section 9-11-326 Enforcement of article, standards and provisions of permits.
Section 9-11-327 Penalties for violations of article, standards or provisions of permits.
Section 9-11-328 Applicability of provisions of article.
Article 12 Commercial Quail Breeding.
Section 9-11-340 "Pen-raised quail" defined.
Section 9-11-341 Persons, etc., authorized to engage in propagation, etc., of pen-raised quail.
Section 9-11-342 Commercial quail breeder's license.
Section 9-11-343 Licensees to obtain markers or marking devices.
Section 9-11-344 Carcasses to be marked before sale; quail to be killed otherwise than by shooting.
Section 9-11-345 Invoices to be attached to packages of carcasses.
Section 9-11-346 Packages of carcasses to be shipped with invoices attached.
Section 9-11-347 Invoices to be kept attached to packages of carcasses during storage.
Section 9-11-348 Resale or disposition of quail by persons other than retail vendors.
Section 9-11-349 Records of licensees; inspection of records and premises of licensees.
Section 9-11-350 Article applicable to persons, etc., shipping quail into state.
Section 9-11-351 Penalty for violations of provisions of article.
Article 13 Taking of Mussels or Mollusks From Fresh Waters.
Section 9-11-370 "Nonresident" defined; burden of proof as to residence.
Section 9-11-371 Promulgation of rules and regulations as to taking of mussels or mollusks from fresh waters.
Section 9-11-372 Mussel catcher's license.
Section 9-11-373 Mussel buyer's license.
Section 9-11-374 Disposition of proceeds of sale of licenses.
Section 9-11-375 Charge for buying or otherwise obtaining freshwater mussels; disposition of revenues; violation as a misdemeanor.
Article 14 Marine Mammal Protection.
Section 9-11-390 Short title.
Section 9-11-391 Definitions.
Section 9-11-392 Legislative findings and declaration of policy.
Section 9-11-393 Imposition of moratorium on taking of marine mammals and marine mammal products; exceptions.
Section 9-11-394 Taking, transportation, sale, etc., of marine mammals, etc., in violation of provisions of article, etc.
Section 9-11-395 Promulgation of rules and regulations.
Section 9-11-396 Penalties for violations of provisions of article, etc.; powers of law enforcement officers, etc., as to enforcement of article, etc.; custody and disposition of equipment, etc., seized in connection with violations of article, etc.; disposition of moneys arising from fines and forfeitures.
Section 9-11-397 Funding of programs established under article.
Section 9-11-398 Applicability of provisions of article.
Article 15 Commercial Fowl Hunting Preserves.
Section 9-11-410 License required.
Section 9-11-411 Site of preserve; marking of boundaries; proximity to other preserves or management areas; turkey shooting prohibited.
Section 9-11-412 Birds to be hunted.
Section 9-11-413 License fee; issuance of license; license to operate a commercial bird hunting preserve.
Section 9-11-414 Limits on harvest; hunting period for "pen-raised birds."
Section 9-11-415 Tagging of bob-white quail; operators to cooperate with Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources; tagging generally.
Section 9-11-416 Records of hunters and amount and species of game taken; inspection.
Section 9-11-417 Hunting licenses required of preserve patrons; seven-day license; operators as agent vendors of licenses.
Section 9-11-418 Enforcement of game and fish laws; inspection of preserves.
Section 9-11-419 Violations; license revocation.
Article 16 Preservation of Wetlands and Hunting of Migratory Waterfowl.
Section 9-11-430 Definitions.
Section 9-11-431 Construction of article; purpose thereof.
Section 9-11-432 Stamp required for hunting migratory waterfowl; form; procedure.
Section 9-11-433 Issuance of stamp; cost; disposition of fees; issuing agents; refund for unsold stamps.
Section 9-11-434 Revenue used in preservation of wetlands; contracts with non-profit organizations for project outside United States.
Section 9-11-435 Requirements for approval of outside United States projects.
Article 17 Commercial Fee Fishing Ponds.
Section 9-11-450 Permit required; rules and regulations.
Section 9-11-451 Site of fee fishing ponds; marking of entrance.
Section 9-11-452 Ponds to be stocked with farm or hatchery produced fish.
Section 9-11-453 Application procedure.
Section 9-11-454 Fishing license not required; letter permit prominently displayed.
Section 9-11-455 Creel limits.
Section 9-11-456 Selling of fish caught.
Section 9-11-457 Violations; fines.
Article 18 Protection of Black Bears.
Section 9-11-480 Legislative findings.
Section 9-11-481 Prohibited activities; exceptions; applicability; penalties.
Article 19 Hunting of Native Game Animals and Certain Nonindigenous Animals.
Section 9-11-500 Definitions.
Section 9-11-501 Hunting of native game animals under certain conditions prohibited.
Section 9-11-502 Hunting of tame game animals prohibited.
Section 9-11-503 Hunting of nonindigenous animals prohibited.
Section 9-11-504 Hunting of pen-raised birds.
Section 9-11-505 Penalties.




Regulations 2010-2011

Call the DCNR and ask for one to be mailed to you along with the game and fish laws pamplet.

Online:
2010-2011 Regulation Book


Quote:
Conservation Chapter 220-2
Supp. 3/31/11 2-1
ALABAMA DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION
AND NATURAL RESOURCES
ADMINISTRATIVE CODE
CHAPTER 220-2
GAME AND FISH DIVISION
TABLE OF CONTENTS
220-2-.01 2010-2011 Hunting Seasons
220-2-.02 Legal Arms, Ammunition, And Methods For
Hunting
220-2-.03 Legal Specifications For Bow And Arrow
220-2-.04 Game Birds Designated
220-2-.05 Legal Hunting Hours For Game Birds
220-2-.06 Game Animals Designated
220-2-.07 Legal Hunting Hours For Game Animals
220-2-.08 Hunting Of Raccoon, Opossum, Squirrel,
Rabbit And Deer During Closed Gun
Season
220-2-.09 Specification Of Firearms For Hunting
(Repealed 9/14/04)
220-2-.10 The Possession Of Firearms By Bow
Hunters Prohibited
220-2-.11 Prohibited Methods And Devices For
Hunting
220-2-.12 Game Bag, Hunting Coat, Etc., Shall Be
Open To Inspection
220-2-.13 Reasonable Effort Must Be Made To
Retrieve Crippled Birds, Animals And
Fish
220-2-.14 Deer Hunting Confined To Bucks Only
With Bare Antlers Visible Above
Hairline
220-2-.15 Destroying Sex Of Deer Or Wild Turkey
Prohibited
220-2-.16 Period For Training Bird Dogs
220-2-.17 Organized Field Trials
220-2-.18 Possession Limit
220-2-.19 Permit For Shipping 2-Days Bag Limit
220-2-.20 Hunting And Trapping In State Parks,
Forests, State Game Farms And
Sanctuaries Prohibited
Chapter 220-2 Conservation
Supp. 3/31/11 2-2
220-2-.21 Possession Of Firearms Or Bow And Arrow
In Any Wildlife Management Area, Refuge
Or Sanctuary Prohibited
220-2-.22 Wildlife Management Areas And
Sanctuaries Established
220-2-.23 Licenses And Migratory Bird Hunting
Stamp Must Be In Possession
220-2-.24 Possession Of Carcass, Untanned Hides
Or Skins
220-2-.25 Imported Game Birds, Game Animals And
Raw Furs Subject To State Laws
220-2-.26 Restrictions On Possession, Sale,
Importation And/Or Release Of Certain
Animals And Fish
220-2-.27 Permit To Take Protected Wildlife
Causing Crop Damage, Property Damage,
Or Concern For Human Safety
220-2-.28 Metal Tag Required For Commercial
Pen-Raised Quail (Repealed 10/14/09)
220-2-.29 Open Trapping Seasons On Fur-Bearers
220-2-.30 Fur-Bearing Animals Designated
220-2-.31 Unlawful To Hang Or Suspend Bait
220-2-.32 Possession Or Sale Of Raw Furs After
Close Of Season
220-2-.33 Fur Dealers
220-2-.34 Game Fish Designated
220-2-.35 Daily Creel Limits, Possession Limits
And Size Limits
220-2-.36 State-Owned Public Fishing Lakes
220-2-.37 Restricted Use Of Public Access Areas
220-2-.38 Taking Of Suckers Permitted In Certain
Counties
220-2-.39 Legal Methods Of Taking Minnows, Shad,
And Suckers For Bait And Mullet In
Freshwater
220-2-.40 Taking Fish In Waterfowl Management
Areas
220-2-.41 Trolling In Certain Areas Prohibited
During Duck Hunting Season (Repealed
10/14/09)
220-2-.42 Division Of Wildlife And Freshwater
Fisheries And Marine Resources Division
Jurisdictional Lines For Certain
Fishing Licenses And Operations; Use
And Possession Of Certain Nets
220-2-.43 Unlawful To Willfully Waste Paddlefish
220-2-.44 Prohibited Methods Of Taking Fish
Conservation Chapter 220-2
Supp. 3/31/11 2-3
220-2-.45 Commercial Or Non-Game Fish Designated
220-2-.46 Legal Methods And Equipment For The
Taking Of Commercial Or Non-Game Fish
220-2-.47 Commercial Fishing Restrictions
220-2-.48 Legal Methods And Equipment For Taking
Of Freshwater Mussels
220-2-.49 Size Restrictions On Freshwater Mussels
Or Their Shells
220-2-.50 Harvest Of Freshwater Mussels
Restricted To Day-Light Hours Only
220-2-.51 Harvest Of Freshwater Mussels For
Commercial Purposes In All Open Areas
Restricted To Five Days A Week
220-2-.52 Restricted Areas For The Taking Of
Freshwater Mussels
220-2-.53 Mussel Buyers Required To Report
220-2-.54 Hunting Dates, Etc., On State Wildlife
Management Areas
220-2-.55 Wildlife Management Areas, Community
Hunting Areas, Public Hunting Areas,
And Refuges Of Alabama
220-2-.56 2010-2011 Wildlife Management Area
Hunting Seasons
220-2-.57 Daily Creel Limits -- U.S. Forest
Service Lands
220-2-.58 Authorized Guide Hunting Service
220-2-.59 Proof Of Payment Of Ad Valorem Taxes
(Repealed 10/16/96)
220-2-.60 Airboat Regulation
220-2-.61 Creel, Possession And Size-Limits For
Federally Owned And Managed Ponds And
Lakes
220-2-.62 Limited Hunting Season For Deer On
Certain Military Installations
220-2-.63 Reserved
220-2-.64 Black Bass Size Limit For West Point
Reservoir (Repealed 7/16/97)
220-2-.65 Use Of Wire Baskets In Chilton County
(Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.66 Emergency Turkey Season For Redstone
Arsenal (Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.67 Extension Of Turkey Season (Emergency
Rule Expired)
220-2-.68 Special 1983-84 Hunter's Choice Deer
Seasons On Specific Federal Lands
220-2-.69 Hunting Seasons And Limits For
Migratory Birds
Chapter 220-2 Conservation
Supp. 3/31/11 2-4
220-2-.70 Use Of Wire Baskets In Jefferson County
220-2-.71 Black Bass Size Limit For Harris
Reservoir (Repealed)
220-2-.72 1985-86 Special Hunter's Choice Deer
Seasons, Times, Places, Manners And
Means On Specific Federal Lands
220-2-.73 The Alabama Cooperative Deer Management
Assistance Program
220-2-.74 1984-85 Dove And Special Teal Hunting
Seasons (Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.75 Certain 1984-85 Hunting Seasons In
Certain Wildlife Management Areas
(Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.76 1984-85 Hunting Seasons For Deer,
Rabbit, Raccoon And Opossum (Emergency
Rule - Expired)
220-2-.77 2010-2011 Duck, Coot, Merganser, Goose,
And Teal Hunting Seasons
220-2-.78 1984-85 Hunting Season For Squirrel
(Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.79 Amendment To Rule No. 220-2-.75-.11er
(Certain 1984-85 Wildlife Management
Areas) And Rule No. 220-2-.56 (1984-85
Hunting Seasons In Wildlife Management
Areas) (Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.80 Running Of Hunting Dogs Prohibited
During Applicable Spring Turkey Seasons
220-2-.81 Running Of Hunting Dogs Prohibited
During Applicable Turkey Seasons On All
State Wildlife Management Areas And
Refuges
220-2-.82 Use Of Airboats Restricted (Emergency
Rule - Expired)
220-2-.83 Special 1984-85 Hunter's Choice Deer
Season (Emergency Rule - Expired)
220-2-.84 The Taking, Killing Or Capturing Of
Commercial Or Non-Game Fish Prohibited
(Repealed 9/16/92)
220-2-.85 Hunter Orange Requirement For Hunting
And Definition Of Open Public-Permit
Land
220-2-.86 Feral Swine Regulation
220-2-.87 1985-86 Dove And Teal Emergency
Regulation
220-2-.88 1985-86 Dove And Special Teal Emergency
Regulation For Wildlife Management
Areas
Conservation Chapter 220-2
Supp. 3/31/11 2-5
220-2-.89 1985-86 Squirrel Emergency Regulation
220-2-.90 1985-86 Starling And Squirrel Emergency
Regulation For Wildlife Management
Areas
220-2-.91 Reserved
220-2-.92 Nongame Species Regulation
220-2-.93 Prohibition Of Importation/Possession
Of The Fishes Rudd And Roach
220-2-.94 Prohibition Of Taking Or Possessing
Paddlefish (Spoonbill)
220-2-.95 Alligator Nuisance Control Hunter
Regulations
220-2-.96 Alligator Farming Regulations
220-2-.97 Alligator Protection Regulation
220-2-.98 Invertebrate Species Regulation
220-2-.99 Legal Specifications For Crossbows And
Arrows For Use By Disabled Persons
(Repealed 9/14/04)
220-2-.100 1992 Special Hunter's Choice Deer
Season For Wheeler Wildlife Refuge
220-2-.101 Hunting Of Captive Bred Mallard Ducks
On Commercial Fowl Hunting Preserves
220-2-.102 Prohibition Of Use Of Certain Animals
In Greyhound Racing Or Training
220-2-.103 Waters Open To The Taking Of Freshwater
Mussels For Commercial Purposes
220-2-.104 Legal Species Of Freshwater Mussels To
Be Taken For Commercial Purposes
220-2-.105 Creel/Possession Limit On Alligator Gar
220-2-.106 Mussel Fishing Seasons
220-2-.107 Special 2010-2011 Hunting Seasons For
Redstone Arsenal And Fort Rucker
220-2-.108 Closed Season On Taking Of Mussels -
Lake Jordan, Mitchell And Lay
220-2-.109 Physically Disabled Hunting Areas
220-2-.110 Establishment Of Physically Disabled
Hunting Areas
220-2-.111 Hunting License Revocation Procedures -
Hunter Safety Certification
Requirements
220-2-.112 Dog Deer Hunting
220-2-.114 Normal Agricultural Planting And
Hunting Of Dove
220-2-.115 Snagging Or Snatching Fish On The
Tennessee River
Chapter 220-2 Conservation
Supp. 3/31/11 2-6
220-2-.117 Special Hunting Seasons - Charles A.
Farquhar State Cattle Ranch - Hale
County
220-2-.118 Migratory Bird Harvest Information
Program
220-2-.119 Special Youth Hunting Day Regulations
For Deer, Turkey, And Waterfowl
220-2-.122 Georgia Reciprocal Fishing Agreement
Regulation
220-2-.123 1997 Spring Turkey Season - West
Jefferson Public Hunting Area
220-2-.124 Nonindigenous Aquatic Plant Regulation
220-2-.125 Special 2010-2011 Hunting Seasons For
Certain Forever Wild Lands And State
Lands Division Lands
220-2-.126 Public Shooting Range Regulation
220-2-.127 Special 2010-2011 Hunting Seasons For
Blowing Springs Cave Tract (Forever
Wild Lands), Lauderdale County
220-2-.128 Special 2006-2007 Hunting Seasons For
Coon Creek Tract (Forever Wild Lands),
Tallapoosa County
220-2-.129 Public Water Stocking
220-2-.130 Prohibition Of Commercial Or Non-Game
Fish Sales And Commercial Gear Use In
Specific Advisory Areas
220-2-.131 Establishment Of Youth Turkey Hunting
Area
220-2-.134 Special State Park Hunting Regulation
220-2-.135 Special State Park Hunting Season
220-2-.136 Establishment Of 2005-2006 Feral Hog
Season In Lowndes Wildlife Management
Area
220-2-.137 Special State Park Hunting Seasons
220-2-.138 Licensed Game Breeders
220-2-.139 Hunting Or Discharging A Firearm Near A
Dwelling, Etc.
220-2-.140 Special State Park Hunting Seasons
220-2-.141 Special 2006-2007 Hunting Seasons For
Shoal Creek Preserve Tract (Forever
Wild Lands), Lauderdale County
220-2-.142 Commercial Turtle Catcher/Dealer/Farmer
Regulation
220-2-.143 Alligator Hunting Season And
Regulations
220-2-.145 Special 2006 Hunting Season For Certain
Hunting Event At Dreamwood Property,
Bibgee, Alabama, Washington County
220-2-.146 Antlered Buck And Turkey Harvest Record
220-2-.147 Deer Enclosure Regulation
220-2-.148 Special Creel/Size Limit At Tuskegee
City Lake
220-2-.150 2008 Alligator Hunting Season
220-2-.151 Archery Range Regulation


Nothing to it. Easy as pie.
Just ask Allan Andress, Chief of Enforcement
State at odds with Feds on hunting regulations
Tusc. News article

Good hunting,
Eddie
_________________________
-Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding, and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense-Thomas Jefferson
-Deer should be scored with points -Another Dead President or somebody else that is smart
-Harvest beans/kill deer

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #86260
02/03/11 09:34 PM
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troy,

If I'm in possession of more than one copy of my hunting license/ "harvest" thingy with the sole intent of insuring that I am in compliance with both the license in possession statute as well as the possession requirements of the rule, how could it be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was possessed "for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation" ?

Quote:
(6) It shall be a violation of this regulation to obtain, possess, or utilize
duplicate harvest record forms, or to provide false information on
harvest record forms, for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of
this regulation.


There are many purposes for having more than one copy:

- License left in wallet and goes thru the wash
- License left in truck by mistake
- License lost on way to stand
- Licenese issued with thingy attached and Reg Book has another one

... etc., etc. etc.

Quote:
A basic rule of review in criminal cases is that criminal statutes are to be strictly construed in favor of those persons sought to be subjected to their operation, i.e., defendants. Schenher v. State, 38 Ala. App. 573, 90 So.2d 234, cert. denied, 265 Ala. 700, 90 So.2d 238 (1956).

Penal statutes are to reach no further in meaning than their words. Fuller v. State, 257 Ala. 502, 60 So.2d 202 (1952).

One who commits an act which does not come within the words of a criminal statute, according to the general and popular understanding of those words, when they are not used technically, is not to be punished thereunder, merely because the act may contravene the policy of the statute. Fuller v. State, supra, citing Young's Case, 58 Ala. 358 (1877).

No person is to be made subject to penal statutes by implication and all doubts concerning their interpretation are to predominate in favor of the accused. Fuller v. State, supra.


A statute defining a crime must be strictly construed and "one cannot commit an offense under a statute except in the circumstances it specifies." Peinhardt v. State, 161 Ala. 70, 49 So. 831, 832 (1909), overruled on other grounds, Williams v. State, 177 Ala. 34, 58 So. 921, 923 (1912). The rules of statutory construction which this Court must follow were succinctly set out in Clements v. State, 370 So.2d 723, 725 (Ala. 1979), overruled on other grounds, Beck v. State, 396 So.2d 645 (Ala. 1980

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86267
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I remember this buck, didn't you post pics of him over a corn pile during the season? You dodged a bullet there.

Unless there were deer recorded on both copies, I don't think that was worthy of a ticket. Perhaps an explanation and warning should have been given.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #86283
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DITTO 49er!! thumbup

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: bloodtrail] #86308
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Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
I remember this buck, didn't you post pics of him over a corn pile during the season? You dodged a bullet there.

Unless there were deer recorded on both copies, I don't think that was worthy of a ticket. Perhaps an explanation and warning should have been given.


This should be good...

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: bloodtrail] #86326
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Originally Posted By: bloodtrail
I remember this buck, didn't you post pics of him over a corn pile
why would that matter?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86327
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It sounds like I have been in violation since the tagging started, I have 3 or 3 years worth of spring turkey tags where I printed them out in my wallet all filled out for each year and none of them have more than 3 birds on them so I guess they could still be used. I have another just for deer with nothing on it besides my sig and license # because I have never killed an AL buck to need it. I guess I will take all but one out now before I get in trouble too. I just figured as long as I was keeping up with it each year that it didn't really matter.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86348
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According to your post if understand you right alot of people have been in violation. I buy mine at Wal-mart also, so as soon as you pick up the booklet the state actually puts in the store you are in violation or is it your are not suppose to use the one in the booklet?

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Why was a warden from another county "Looking for you"?

Reads like there is more to the story...................

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86390
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There's a place on the form for you to sign and put your lic # on.
I've had two all year, one has my name and # and one has my sons.
If you fill them out before season, then your fine if you have 2,3,4,etc..
The trouble starts when you have a blank one in your possession.
Carry on.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86403
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Hell I don't know, you kill a 179.25 gross deer in Alabama and see what is said about you. No one believed I had pictures of it. Then when I drug it out of the woods all kinds of story's started going around.

I put out corn before the season. Took pictures of this deer, hunted it the right way. People just can't take it.

If you hunt hard and kill big deer, people say bad things about you. Hell you know, It happens on here all the time.

I don't care what people say. I and only I know what is right.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86404
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I called the warden from my county, and asked him to come look. I was not hiding anything. I am not hiding anything.

Oh and by the way. I have corn out now. and I will have corn out till hunting season. But I guess if I go in there to shoot a yote. THEN I AM DEER HUNTING. I mean come on man!!!!!

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I don't care what you do, and have congratulated you several times on a FINE deer.

BUT, you did post pics of not only the deer you killed, but several others, around a corn pile with the Time/Date Stamp on the pics and it WAS during deer season......not very long before you killed your deer actually.

I mean come on man!!!!! LOL

Ain't no big deal to me, either way.
But, what you are now saying is not true and everybody on here knows it. It really takes away from your credibility.

smile

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Hogwild] #86420
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Hogwild,

Do you think a wrong date stamp on a picture is evidence enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this deer was killed over bait?? If that was the issue, why was the charge only made for not doing the little qdm "harvest" thingy right?

The man said he wasn't hiding anything. You have no right to make him out to be a liar over a date stamp on a picture. Date stamps show up wrong on pictures pretty often.

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Yeah, right.....LOL

I didn't post the pics. He did.

There is no need in denying it.

Put your Big Boy panties on before you start slinging chit!

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BTW,

I NEVER said, nor implied, that the deer was taken with the aid of bait.

I am ONLY talking about the pictures.

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To hell with it. who cares. we are all guiltly of something. Like I said before. I drive down the road everyday with a loaded rifle. so I guess I am road hunting. I walk back to my truck after dark with a loaded gun. So I guess I am hunting at night. You would think that the hunters on here would stick together about a bullshit ticket like this and not let it stand. But no we have to critize everything that everyone else is doing.

I can tell you this. And I will tell it to the Judge. I killed this deer perfectly legal.

This is a bullshit ticket. If she had checked my gun then she could have wrote me a legit ticket.

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Ain't no big deal to me, either way.
But, what you are now saying is not true and everybody on here knows it. It really takes away from your credibility.



Actually, it reflects on your credibility. It tells me you don't need any real proof before you attack another man's reputation. Your words will need to be scrutinized carefully in the future because the truth don't matter much before you speak. ( here's you an LOL )

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Maybe I am wrong, who knows?

But, my friendly advice to you is:

Lose the self-righteous attitude before you approach the Judge.

You DID break the Law, even if I do agree with you that it a ridiculous one.

Carry on! smile

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I drive down the road everyday with a loaded rifle.


You have a constitutional right to do that.

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This might just be the case that needs to go to trial to get the silly "harvest record" done away with.


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Ain't no big deal to me, either way.
But, what you are now saying is not true and everybody on here knows it. It really takes away from your credibility.



Actually, it reflects on your credibility. It tells me you don't need any real proof before you attack another man's reputation. Your words will need to be scrutinized carefully in the future because the truth don't matter much before you speak. ( here's you an LOL )


No, what it proves is that I am not afraid to think for myself, nor to speak my mind.
I am man enough to admit when I am wrong AND man enough to tell another person when they are wrong.

It was poor judgement to put the pics on the www with corn in front of the camera in the area he was hunting with the Time/Date stamp on it.....even if that Time/Date stamp was wrong. I just told him that without accusing him of anything other than trying to deny that fact.

I can assure you that I am not the only one that noticed.
As a matter of fact, I ddin't bring it up on this thread, nor any others.
BUT, it has been questioned and ignored SEVERAL times before now.......wonder why???
Are you involved???
If not, take your own advice.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: globe] #86441
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Originally Posted By: globe
There's a place on the form for you to sign and put your lic # on.
I've had two all year, one has my name and # and one has my sons.
If you fill them out before season, then your fine if you have 2,3,4,etc..
The trouble starts when you have a blank one in your possession.
Carry on.


Agreed, and that's another point. What keeps Outlaw Joe from recording his buck kills on his non-hunting children's harvest record? I sure wish we'd get antler tags that have to be reported. CD.

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BUT, you did post pics of not only the deer you killed, but several others, around a corn pile with the Time/Date Stamp on the pics and it WAS during deer season......not very long before you killed your deer actually.



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I just told him that without accusing him of anything other than trying to deny that fact


LOL

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BUT, you did post pics of not only the deer you killed, but several others, around a corn pile with the Time/Date Stamp on the pics and it WAS during deer season......not very long before you killed your deer actually.



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I just told him that without accusing him of anything other than trying to deny that fact


LOL



Since you have decided to 'take up the torch'.....

Are you denying the pictures?

Or, are you just feeling arguementative this morning??

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The pictures are irrelevant to the charges.

The man said he was hiding nothing. I've seen no proof that he is not telling the truth.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86489
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Rob,

Let it go. Pay the fine. We all should know better than to have duplicate harvest tags. It makes us look like we intend to kill more than three. Not saying you did...but save the fight for something else. And also, fix the date on your camera!!

The state should fix this by going to a tag system....

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Originally Posted By: CD
Originally Posted By: globe
There's a place on the form for you to sign and put your lic # on.
I've had two all year, one has my name and # and one has my sons.
If you fill them out before season, then your fine if you have 2,3,4,etc..
The trouble starts when you have a blank one in your possession.
Carry on.


Agreed, and that's another point. What keeps Outlaw Joe from recording his buck kills on his non-hunting children's harvest record? I sure wish we'd get antler tags that have to be reported. CD.




I just wish they would enforce the regulations they have in a rational manner and do away with the ones that seem designed to trap law-abiding hunters. I also wish that the people that want MORE regulations and law enforcement headaches would really consider what they're asking for.


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Not asking for more regulations. It is impossible to enforce the current law. If you are a game warden what would you think if you found someone with 2 harvest forms? If you are going to have a buck restriction..do it right. Use tags. The GW can then hang around the processor and bust the fools who don't play by the rules.

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the camera date has nothing to do with it. I did not hunt over corn.

I would have already paid the stupid fine. However there has never been a ticket written like this in my county. So the clerk does not know what to charge. So COURT APPEARENCE ONLY.

that way they can get court cost as well.

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guys if I was hiding something. I would not have posted pictures of my deer with my real name.

My name is Rob Gillaspie I live in Boaz, al. I killed this deer 10 miles from downtown boaz. On land that I was given permission to hunt. I have since leased this land.

I took pictures of my deer, just like everyone else does. I can tell you if it had been a spike this would have never happen.

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I'm pretty sure you would pay court cost even if you paid the ticket before court.


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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
To hell with it. who cares. we are all guiltly of something. Like I said before. I drive down the road everyday with a loaded rifle. so I guess I am road hunting. I walk back to my truck after dark with a loaded gun. So I guess I am hunting at night. You would think that the hunters on here would stick together about a bullshit ticket like this and not let it stand. But no we have to critize everything that everyone else is doing.

I can tell you this. And I will tell it to the Judge. I killed this deer perfectly legal.

This is a bullshit ticket. If she had checked my gun then she could have wrote me a legit ticket.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86569
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The fact that you have given so much information about the property you killed this deer is just as shocking as the trail cam pics. Someone is gonna try to lease that land from under you, or poach it. You gotta LIE, LIE, LIE when it comes to big bucks on small tracks.

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We all do need to get along!



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how do you not know that I am not Lieing about where the land is.

If everyone would do there own homework, they can find a big deer just like I did.

Put out camera's. BAIT them up

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Hog are you saying its illegal to feed corn during the season?


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I said from day ONE ...the harvest record was a JOKE. I AM in favor of the three Buck limit. BUT the way we chose to regulate the limit was total crap from the start. You are asking all hunters to me truthful. Now while 75% of us are .. that harvest record is sooo easily duplicated and the 25% rogues out there just keep piling the deer up.

ROB! I am with you man.. If you are dirty then your friends already know it and you didnt have to kill a 179 buck to prove it, BUT.... If you are an honest hunter then your friends have no reason to dispute your claims. So with that being said .. I dont know you. At this point , it sounds like you had made a small oversight and the warden wanted to be an ass. I think it has been made pretty obvious that very few of us actually follow the law there. And I would even argue the fact that having a booklet in your truck along with your license and harvest record is illegal. Just having the booklet doesnt prove you intended to use it as your harvest record. In your case however, it sounds like you had chosen to use a secondary piece of paper for your record. Probably a slight mistake, BUT.. if you had both copies available and it was obvious only one was filled out.. A good common sense GW would have explaied the mistake and went on to more pressing issues. GWs could help their image sometimes by being educators instead of hard up ticket pushers. Believe it or not .. everyone reading this lacks perfection and we all have made errors.

I like the post... United we Stand! We as hunters should come together better.

Now .. lets get those tags so this crap isnt such an issue any more!

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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
So COURT APPEARENCE ONLY.

that way they can get court cost as well.


you can bet the farm that the court is going to get court cost no matter how it is paid, or when. The Judge can waive court costs, but usually dosen't. Court costs suck.

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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
how do you not know that I am not Lieing about where the land is.

If everyone would do there own homework, they can find a big deer just like I did.

Put out camera's. BAIT them up


Now your catching on!
I disagree with the second part, deer over 150" are very difficult to find, much less 170"-180".

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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
how do you not know that I am not Lieing about where the land is.

If everyone would do there own homework, they can find a big deer just like I did.

Put out camera's. BAIT them up


You forgot one thing.

NEVER,NEVER,NEVER post pics of deer over corn during hunting season grin

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yea, I am slow learner. Different deer, but corn no less.

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Rule #1....Never, never, NEVER post a pic of any buck you killed that scores over 120"......ever.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #86659
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thanks troy, Maybe I can learn something from a NICE GW

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I'll save some of ya'll the time.... cooldon't call me nice or you WILL get piled on here smile I'm trying to be nicer but sometimes it is hard to be nice on this forum will the seemingly overabundance of azzholes. wink

How was that???

troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #86735
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Man, I've been missing out. I just read all 10 pages of this after seeing the picture posted. Very interesting discussion.

BTW... Congratulations on the buck of a lifetime. I will be even more impressed after your comments when you have another one this good next year. If you do, please don't hesitate sharing the picture and story. wink


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #86742
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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
the camera date has nothing to do with it. I did not hunt over corn.

I would have already paid the stupid fine. However there has never been a ticket written like this in my county. So the clerk does not know what to charge. So COURT APPEARENCE ONLY.

that way they can get court cost as well.
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So COURT APPEARENCE ONLY.

that way they can get court cost as well.


you can bet the farm that the court is going to get court cost no matter how it is paid, or when. The Judge can waive court costs, but usually dosen't. Court costs suck.

troy


Exactly. You pay court costs in AL on any citation, traffic or otherwise, whether you got to court or not.

Most speeding tickets are $50 fine at most. It's the $127.50 court costs that sticks it to ya! laugh


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Another reason we need tags.
There would be no confusion and no individual interpretation of the rules.
Either the animal IS tagged or the animal IS NOT tagged, simple and unmistakable.


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Another reason we need tags.
There would be no confusion and no individual interpretation of the rules.
Either the animal IS tagged or the animal IS NOT tagged, simple and unmistakable.


... just like the qdm "harvest thingy" idea was simple. Have you ever seen the DCNR do anything that was simple?? There ain't no room for extortion in simple.

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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I'll save some of ya'll the time.... cooldon't call me nice or you WILL get piled on here smile I'm trying to be nicer but sometimes it is hard to be nice on this forum will the seemingly overabundance of azzholes. wink

How was that???

troy


MAYBE THERE IS AN OVERABUNDANCE OF AZZHOLE WARDENS IN ALABAMA. JUST MAYBE! thumbup


doecommander out...........................



Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #86989
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Originally Posted By: Out back
Another reason we need tags.
There would be no confusion and no individual interpretation of the rules.
Either the animal IS tagged or the animal IS NOT tagged, simple and unmistakable.


... just like the qdm "harvest thingy" idea was simple. Have you ever seen the DCNR do anything that was simple?? There ain't no room for extortion in simple.


The 'harvest-thingy' really is pretty simple.
The fact that people didn't care to educate themselves about it does not make it 'complex', or 'hard'.

If this 'harvest-thingy' is really difficult for you, I don't know how on Earth you function in Society?????

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Originally Posted By: 49er
Originally Posted By: Out back
Another reason we need tags.
There would be no confusion and no individual interpretation of the rules.
Either the animal IS tagged or the animal IS NOT tagged, simple and unmistakable.


... just like the qdm "harvest thingy" idea was simple. Have you ever seen the DCNR do anything that was simple?? There ain't no room for extortion in simple.


The 'harvest-thingy' really is pretty simple.
The fact that people didn't care to educate themselves about it does not make it 'complex', or 'hard'.

If this 'harvest-thingy' is really difficult for you, I don't know how on Earth you function in Society?????


I function OK, thank you. Several members in this thread had a problem understanding the requirements of the qdm "harvest thingy" though. Maybe you should concern yourself about how they function in society.

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YOUR post 49'er.....

Trying to promote YOUR agenda!

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Is this forum too complex for you to realize that was me quoting YOUR post and replying??

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yer a funny little boy doecommander....

how many times you been arrested????? cause we all know you have been.....


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Hey guys, take it easy. I appreciate everyones opinion. I did not want to start a fight. I had a great year. I know I did what is right. I made a dumb mistake and hopefully the judge will see it the same way I do. Maybe Not. who knows.

Lets just all be freinds.

The only thing I was trying to get across is this. I am a good guy just trying to make a living and raise me kids. (and support all my ex's of course) It just pisses me off that I told her the truth, and got a ticket. All I had to do was Lie and she could not have cited me.

Oh well lesson learned. Next time I will know the law and not break it. just sucks that I can be fined for this.

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Here's you another couple in case you need 'em:

Quote:
RECORD BEFORE FIELD DRESSING OR MOVING CARCASS
Name_________________________________________________________
License No. (if applicable)_________________________________________
Antlered Buck Harvest Record
One of the three must have 4 pts, 1 or longer on one side
Antlered Buck ___/___/___ (date of harvest) Points: Right ____ Left ____
Antlered Buck ___/___/___ (date of harvest) Points: Right ____ Left ____
Antlered Buck ___/___/___ (date of harvest) Points: Right ____ Left ____
Note: For Barbour County minimum of 3 points, 1 inch or longer, on one antler for all antlered bucks.
Further restrictions apply on certain management areas. See Wildlife Management Area information.
Turkey Harvest Record
___/___/___ ___/___/___ ___/___/___ ___/___/___ ___/___/___
(date of harvest) (date of harvest) (date of harvest) (date of harvest) (date of harvest)


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RECORD BEFORE FIELD DRESSING OR MOVING CARCASS
Name_________________________________________________________
License No. (if applicable)_________________________________________
Antlered Buck Harvest Record
One of the three must have 4 pts, 1 or longer on one side
Antlered Buck ___/___/___ (date of harvest) Points: Right ____ Left ____
Antlered Buck ___/___/___ (date of harvest) Points: Right ____ Left ____
Antlered Buck ___/___/___ (date of harvest) Points: Right ____ Left ____
Note: For Barbour County minimum of 3 points, 1 inch or longer, on one antler for all antlered bucks.
Further restrictions apply on certain management areas. See Wildlife Management Area information.
Turkey Harvest Record
___/___/___ ___/___/___ ___/___/___ ___/___/___ ___/___/___
(date of harvest) (date of harvest) (date of harvest) (date of harvest) (date of harvest)


Now everybody reading this is GUILTY AS CHARGED. grin

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #87013
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LOL, thanks, well at least you made me laugh about it.

Sometimes you just catch the chit. I guess I did.

Funny thing is, if she had just checked my gun. She could have wrote a legit ticket.

Hell as many Laws as they have, I am sure I was breaking another one.

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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
Hey guys, take it easy. I appreciate everyones opinion. I did not want to start a fight. I had a great year. I know I did what is right. I made a dumb mistake and hopefully the judge will see it the same way I do. Maybe Not. who knows.

Lets just all be freinds.

The only thing I was trying to get across is this. I am a good guy just trying to make a living and raise me kids. (and support all my ex's of course) It just pisses me off that I told her the truth, and got a ticket. All I had to do was Lie and she could not have cited me.

Oh well lesson learned. Next time I will know the law and not break it. just sucks that I can be fined for this.


Excellent post, Rob!

I never meant to offend you, or take anything from your great kill.
But, I am outspoken and don't mind pointing out the obvious.
I actually think that we would get along fine! LOL

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Hogwild] #87015
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Quote:
Funny thing is, if she had just checked my gun. She could have wrote a legit ticket.



What rule do you think you were breaking by having a loaded gun in your truck??

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Hogwild] #87018
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Hell you never offended me. I got on here and ask for everyone's opinion. I am glad I did.

Yea I put out corn. No I did not hunt this deer over it. Yea I walked to my truck after dark with a loaded gun and a flashlight. Yea I rode down the road with a loaded gun. Yea I think she is a bitch. Yea I am sure if we meet again in the near future I will still think she is a bitch.

Oh well, I will get over it.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #87023
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OH, well don't you think I was hunting in my Parking Lot, within 100 yards of the road. Hell yea I was, right in the middle of Albertville, on US HWY 431.

that is about how bogus the other ticket is. They got so many laws that can be looked at so many different ways, they can write you a ticket for taking a chit.

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Lot's of folks think that because there is a rule the prohibits loaded firearms in vehicles WITHIN management areas that it is against the law. I hope you understand that it isn't against the law at your place of business in Albertville.

If you mean you were "hunting" according to the defintion some on this thread have used by being in possession of a LOADED (God forbid) firearm, then I see your point, but it wouldn't be a legitimate charge by any means.

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Originally Posted By: 49er
Lot's of folks think that because there is a rule the prohibits loaded firearms in vehicles WITHIN management areas that it is against the law. I hope you understand that it isn't against the law at your place of business in Albertville.

If you mean you were "hunting" according to the defintion some on this thread have used by being in possession of a LOADED (God forbid) firearm, then I see your point, but it wouldn't be a legitimate charge by any means.


I don't think the other ticket was legit either. I know you weren't there. But given what I have told you. with newspaper people and guys standing everywhere. Do you think that I was hiding the fact that I shot this deer. Or do you really think that I had a dup copy to cheat this reg.

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Is she hot?

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Originally Posted By: burbank
Is she hot?


No, but if you were in the hunting camp say maybe one to many days, yea you would

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Originally Posted By: burbank
Is she hot?


hope yer wife don't see this...... smile

how ya doing????

troy


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Originally Posted By: burbank
Is she hot?


hope yer wife don't see this...... smile

how ya doing????

troy


Troy,

I am better than I should be!

She knows I am only checking for Rob. It is obvious that this chick wants him. She was going to write a ticket just so she could get his digits...

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Ya know...she was out of her county "looking" for him. You may be on to something. sleep

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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Ya know...she was out of her county "looking" for him. You may be on to something. sleep

troy


Troy, she actually had been to my business before, looking for her son a truck. I HOPE SHE COMES BACK. I will make sure I recover my money.

Question for you sir. If you are checking fisherman. and you check me while I am fishing a tourn. in the morning. Do you really think you should check me again in the pm. JUST ASKING.

the gw I am referring to, is the one who trained her. and like what you said to me early, I don't have anything good to say about that GW either. (remember this is my first ticket ever, just these gw's are rubbing me wrong)

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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Ya know...she was out of her county "looking" for him. You may be on to something. sleep

troy


Hey...that is a pretty good idea. You single fellers need to look her up and marry this gal. Hunting over corn??? NO PROBLEM! Poaching??? NO PROBLEM! You could rule the county!

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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
Ya know...she was out of her county "looking" for him. You may be on to something. sleep

troy


Troy, she actually had been to my business before, looking for her son a NEW DADDY. I HOPE SHE COMES BACK. I will make sure I recover my money.

Question for you sir. If you are checking fisherman. and you check me while I am fishing a tourn. in the morning. Do you really think you should check me again in the pm. JUST ASKING.

the gw I am referring to, is the one who trained her. and like what you said to me early, I don't have anything good to say about that GW either. (remember this is my first ticket ever, just these gw's are rubbing me wrong)


Fixed it for you...

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you know, I actually have checked a boat twice in one day. When you check fifty or more boats in a day, sometimes don't remember checkin that blue boat. I've caught myself when I got close enough to see the occupants, and apologized.

I probably cut tournament fishermen a little slack from a checking standpoint, based on hundreds of checks with no violations cited.

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hell maybe that is what she wanted, to get nailed, there were alot of guys around. maybe when noone tried to nail her it pissed her off. so she wrote me a ticket.

Hell I would have gladly bent her over. Even I can take one for the team. Get Troy to call her and tell her to come back.

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I'm pretty sure Troy ain't gonna call her......


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
you know, I actually have checked a boat twice in one day. When you check fifty or more boats in a day, sometimes don't remember checkin that blue boat. I've caught myself when I got close enough to see the occupants, and apologized.

I probably cut tournament fishermen a little slack from a checking standpoint, based on hundreds of checks with no violations cited.

troy


Troy,

This gw knows me, and I said HI and called him by his first name that morning. Then the asshole came back while I am trying to win a tourn. and checked me again. Well we have not be freindly since. Because at that point I gave him a piece of my mind. Neither time was I in violation. and I am sure you know who I am talking about.

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but when you realized that you had already checked them. DID YOU CONTINUE.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87068
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heck no, I got out of there....

used to be a GW around Lake Purdy that would patrol around and around, and around the lake...allllll day. He'd check the same folks 2,3,4 ,5 times and check em just like it was the first time that day. Who knows why???


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #87073
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
heck no, I got out of there....

used to be a GW around Lake Purdy that would patrol around and around, and around the lake...allllll day. He'd check the same folks 2,3,4 ,5 times and check em just like it was the first time that day. Who knows why???


Alzheimer's?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #87081
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used to be a GW around Lake Purdy that would patrol around and around, and around the lake...allllll day. He'd check the same folks 2,3,4 ,5 times and check em just like it was the first time that day. Who knows why???


His initials weren't Johnny Bodiford were they? Johnny used to live next door to my Dad. We tried to talk about hunting with him .. once. smile

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87126
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Eddie, that would be him...


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87155
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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
If you are checking fisherman. and you check me while I am fishing a tourn. in the morning. Do you really think you should check me again in the pm.


Several years ago, on Lay & Mitchell, Prentice would somehow find me two or three times a day.
Course I knew he wasn't harassing me, he was just checking my girlfriend ... for all the proper equipment.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #87216
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
yer a funny little boy doecommander....

how many times you been arrested????? cause we all know you have been.....


Never been arrested. Never even had a speeding ticket. Just learned the facts of life early. I hunt ethically. I just like giving wardens a hard time. They like giving everyone a hard time. No hard feelings. But I will say that the name calling is childish. I will not resort to a level that childish. Like I said, No hard feelings!


doecommander out...........................



Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87234
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Who was it on here who said "all gamewardens are assholes" in a post this week?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87268
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couldn't of been doecommander...he wouldn't resort to ANY level that childish.....

and he hunts ethically, cept for limbing turkeys, of course..... thumbup

like I said, yer a funny little BOY.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #87296
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
couldn't of been doecommander...he wouldn't resort to ANY level that childish.....

and he hunts ethically, cept for limbing turkeys, of course..... thumbup

like I said, yer a funny little BOY.


If it's legal, it's ethical right? If it were unethical, it would be illegal. Right?


doecommander out...........................



Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87356
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I sure hear a lot of negatives on the GW's on here. Seems the ones that talk the worst about them are the first one to cry and complain to them if somebody does something illegal on the lease or land. I know that's their job, to respond but dang quit the belly moaning. Sure some are better than other, but if we didn't have them, we probably wouldn't have any natural resources to harvest.

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Originally Posted By: doecommander


If it's legal, it's ethical right? If it were unethical, it would be illegal. Right?


tell me yer not really that simple minded...... crazy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87902
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Originally Posted By: robgillaspie
She is not even assigned to my county.

Did this take place in Marshall Co?
What county is she assigned to?
If she is not assigned to your county, what brought her looking for you?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 2Crows] #87931
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Since they are getting so techical and nit-picky with these little qdm "harvest" record thingy's, I think I'll invite a blind person to buy a hunting license and go hunting with me. Then the DCNR call deal with the requirements of the Americans with Disablilities Act.

They might want to consider the extra accomodations a blind person needs to comply with their rule.

Reckon what it would cost to print all their stuff in braille?? grin

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: 49er] #87934
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You and your 'friends' are really pissed off because the CAB was able to enact the Buck Limits.

You are really starting to sound like a titty-baby. LMAO wink

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #87943
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not this kind of titty-baby....



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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #87948
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Just trying to get the hang of this "rules is rules" thinking.

Some things are better than beer, btw. I've been known to... oh, never mind, you think they're just for babies. grin

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #90753
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I am am a law abidding citizen (let me say that first).The tagging system we have here in AL.is a joke. The state requires us to carry around a piece of paper that is not logged\ entered into any database - it is not tied to anything other than the garbage can at the end of the season, so what is the point of having it. I have a lifetime license, so every year I print out a single harvest tag to carry in my wallet for the season. I understand that the over the counter license's have the harvest tag located on the back. People with lifetime licenses in theory could print out a new harvest tag after every kill and no one would know the difference if you have taken 3 bucks or 10.(One argument you could make - the harvest tag is only enforceable to over the counter license holders, with the exception of not having it at all).
I lease a farm in Tenn. every deer in this state is supposed to be tagged and then checked in , which is great! The state then can provide how many doe and bucks were taken in each county and give a total state-wide harvest plus or minus the outlaws. Where Alabama gets it's harvest numbers is a mistery to me and I have doubts they are accurate. I love hunting in Alabama and I have total respect for Game Wardens and the job they do. It just seems to me, that the higher powers that be have pushed for the implementation of a rule\law that really is a half-way completed job. I am fine with the 3 buck limit and the antler restriction. Just fully implement the rule\law so we as hunter's can start to utilize the data from it.

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It just seems to me, that the higher powers that be have pushed for the implementation of a rule\law that really is a half-way completed job. I am fine with the 3 buck limit and the antler restriction. Just fully implement the rule\law so we as hunter's can start to utilize the data from it.


"the higher powers that be" have never delegated authority to implement wildlife management rules on privately owned and leased lands in our state. If the CAB wants to "fully implement" such rules, they need to go thru the proper legislative procedure to do it if they desire the support of law abiding citizens.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #90942
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I don't go along with bashing GW's as clearly stated in the other topic like this one, but that sounds a little like someone trying to make a name for themself to me. I too have a duplicate that I carry, so it is safe to say that I too could be ticketed. I assure that would be a colorful conversation between me and the GW...

Again, they have a job to do but the higher ups in the DCNR should make us a tag we can't duplicate. My buck harvest was written on a duplicate and I have probably thrown it away by now since I cleaned out my vest. Oh well...

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: doecommander] #91194
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Originally Posted By: doecommander
FACT: WARDENS ARE A-HOLES.
FACT: WARDENS LIKE WRITING TICKETS
FACT: WARDENS MAKE MISTAKES
FACT: SOME WARDENS ARE GOOD
FACT: FINDING A GOOD WARDEN IS VERY HARD IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #93515
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Just one more reason I'm glad I hunt in Tennessee. You kill a deer, you check it in. YOu get a "permanent" tag for that deer that stays with that deer until it is processed. If you get the buck mounted, you better attach the tag with it.

No way to lie or get around it for the outlaws. If they get caught with a deer and no tag, it's a ticket. No garbage to fill out or sign.

You tag it, check it and tag it again and you are good. Easy, simple and no worries.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #93524
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Swamper, the good folks down here call that MORE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION. How dare you suggest a simple method THAT WORKS. wink CD.

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #93857
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well boys I go to court friday, I am gonna take this all the way. Yall wish me luck. Hell everybody I know had two of these Harvest records.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #94317
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It might just be me but when it comes to Game Wardens, I can't recall ever having a problem with any of the ones that I know or have met in the field. I know a couple of boys here locally, one retired and the other still active that are just a couple of good ole boys, heck one of them even enjoys turkey hunting more than I do.

But to hear some folks talk about them, they are low-class piece of chits that do nothing but harass hunters. I often wonder if those that talk bad about them are the same ones that the GWs have been hired to pursue.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: muzziehead] #94382
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Originally Posted By: muzziehead
It might just be me but when it comes to Game Wardens, I can't recall ever having a problem with any of the ones that I know or have met in the field. I know a couple of boys here locally, one retired and the other still active that are just a couple of good ole boys, heck one of them even enjoys turkey hunting more than I do.

But to hear some folks talk about them, they are low-class piece of chits that do nothing but harass hunters. I often wonder if those that talk bad about them are the same ones that the GWs have been hired to pursue.

ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #94391
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yep...

troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #94426
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Originally Posted By: AlabamaSwamper
Just one more reason I'm glad I hunt in Tennessee. You kill a deer, you check it in. YOu get a "permanent" tag for that deer that stays with that deer until it is processed. If you get the buck mounted, you better attach the tag with it.

No way to lie or get around it for the outlaws. If they get caught with a deer and no tag, it's a ticket. No garbage to fill out or sign.

You tag it, check it and tag it again and you are good. Easy, simple and no worries.




I used to live in Ohio which had the tag system, was a major PITA when you trail & locate a deer, get to the check-in station after they close, tie up the next morning waiting for the GW to finish with his breakfast, phone calls, whatever, then take the deer to the processor. Keeping one overnight in Alabama means major headache, most guys even in Ohio just quarter it & butcher it themselves & toss the tag, sort of defeats the whole thing. Poachers up there sure don't bother with it and it never seemed to limit the night-hunters. Just another bureaucracy to deal with, more ways to make a mistake & get a ticket and really doesn't help a thing.

Think about it, an accountability program will work no better than those using it. We have about a bazillion rules & laws on the books that are vague & misunderstood all the time about hunting over bait, and you want those guys to create a tagging system?

Not me.


Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #94432
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wow i also had two on me all year and while i didnt get checked could see were i could have run into a problem.also if the game warden was hunting you all of a sudden whats all that about? sounds like she had it in for you.only time i ever see them is at ur truck coming out of the woods.i would plead my case to the judge which by the way will side with the warden 99.00% of the time then appeal and ask for jury trial.only know one game warden that was not an a hole his name is mike weathers one of the finest out there and very fair.good luck hope you win!


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Vulkanman] #98353
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well boys I go to court friday, I am gonna take this all the way. Yall wish me luck. Hell everybody I know had two of these Harvest records.


So, how'd that big day in court turn out?

Did you win?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: jtraywick] #98383
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I've remained out of this until now. This post crossed the line with me.

You've declared 99% of Alabama Game Wardens are assholes...including my father, many friends...including B'ham Fred (Troy), and many other good officers.

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What happened to Robgillespie? How did his court come out?


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Ok sorry guys, I went to court last friday, I knew the DA, he looked at my case and said it was a joke. Rescheduled to remove him from the case. I went ahead and hired a lawyer, because the game warden asked for max pen. of 500 plus court cost. So I am going for a jury trial, I will let 12 of my peers tell me what my fine should be, if any. So I will keep you posted. I am sure they are going to have to rewrite this law when this is all said and done.

One fact that made my lawyer laugh. She gave me a ticket for having two harvest records. When she handed it to me, she gave me another one. So there you go.

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So you are set for a bench trail in May? You know that is not a jury trial correct? You must think you are going to lose the trial in May, if you are already planning a jury trial.

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no not really, other than the fact that most people dont win anything in district court. I guess you are one of those that thinks I should have got this ticket. I guess you are entitleed to your opinion. But I never said May. Funny how you know so much about it. Look I never said I did not have two of these records. But I was not trying to get around this law. The law clearly states that it is a violation to have two harvest records, for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation. Oh well great discussion I guess, I think I am not guilty, everyone else gets to have their opinion. That is how america works. All I said is I want to have 12 of my peers tell me what they think. That is my right.

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When is the date and time for your next scheduled hearing for the case?

I may have to come sit in and listen if it's going to be something that could affect a regulation.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #99024
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I never said you were guilty or that you should plead guilty. If you knew anything about me, you would not ask that question. I have no idea if you are guilty or innocent. But, I do know that your case was reset on May 13, 2011 for a bench trial. Before you start, I am not an employee of the state, just interested in the outcome because I hate to see innocent people get the shaft. By the way, I see people win stuff in District Court all the time.

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Well I am sorry if I took you wrong. My plan is to plead not guilty in Distict Court. I may have it tried in front of the Judge or I may elect to go straight to the jury trial. Either way I will tesitfy to the fact that I did have two harvest records like the GW said I did. However my argument will be that I was not trying to hide this deer from anyone. Hell I was and I'm proud that I killed it.

If anyone wants to come Court will be in Guntersville Court House May 13th 9 am. District Court.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #112930
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Hey just wanted to update you guys on my case. I still have court date set for May 13th.

However just wanted everyone to know that I have been contacted by two different state senators.

Before this case is over. We will get rid of this stupid law.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #112941
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What did they have to say rob?



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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Southwood7] #113002
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they just wanted to here my story. both agreed that the law is written wrong. and that only honest people can be fined for it.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #113016
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Keep in mind that the Hunter's Digest that you were given does not contain the rules you are charged you with breaking. It is a poor substitute for the pamphlet required by law that the DCNR does not abide by.

My recent request to Commissioner Guy for the law pamphlet mentioned in the Regulation Book as being published separately has gone unanswered. You have been deprived of a pamphlet that is required by law when the commissioner makes rules. The purpose of that pamphlet is to combine all rules and laws together in order to avoid the confusion that you encountered.

Bear in mind also that the rule you are charged with breaking was approved by the CAB in it's third regular meeting that year. The law states there shall be semiannual regular meetings of the CAB.

If you have to follow a rule to the letter, make sure that rule was passed following the letter of the law. 220-2-146 wasn't.

I wish you the best. Fighting these nit-picking tickets is a necessary evil hunters face these days unfortunately.

Eddie



This e-mail was sent 3/7/11. I have not recieved a reply.

Quote:
N. Gunter Guy, Jr.

Commissioner of Conservation



Dear Mr. Guy,



The Alabama Regulations 2010-2011 Game, Fish, and Fur Bearing Animals states that the

pamphlet required by the Code of Alabama 1975, Section 9-2-8 is being published in separate

pamphlets. I have been unsuccessful in my requests at the Department of Conservation to obtain

the pamphlet that contains the laws relating to game and fish.



I have asked for the pamphlet at Division III headquarters and at the main office in Montgomery.

Could you please furnish me with a copy of the pamphlet containing the laws relating to game

and fish that is required by Code of Alabama 1975, Section 9-2-8 and referred to in the regulation

book.



I have also been unsuccessful in finding the rules that apply to dog deer hunting permits in either

the Code of Alabama or the Alabama Regulations 2010-2011 Game, Fish, and Fur Bearing Animals

pamphlet. The permits are referred to as special permits in the hunting schedules. Please send me

a copy of all the rules that apply to those special permits for dog deer hunting.







Sincerely,



Eddie H. Maxwell







Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: mission] #113402
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Originally Posted By: mission
I've remained out of this until now. This post crossed the line with me.

You've declared 99% of Alabama Game Wardens are assholes...including my father, many friends...including B'ham Fred (Troy), and many other good officers.



No offense to your father and Troy, but most of the ones I know and know of are lazy and have egos the size of Alaska.

KNowing more than my share of folks personally who work inside DCNR's all over the U.S., I find it funny how much I hear this same thing from them.

In fairness, I've also met some really professional wardens also who did their job well and acted like a mature adult while doing so. We had a very good one in Colbert Co for many years. I had two awesome GW"s in my county up in TN. I think the two new ones do a lot of their 40 hours at home and they sure don't like returning calls.










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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #113409
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I personally take no offense to his statement. Just look at who said it....

Besides, If ya pushed me enough, I could be a REAL ass. I can give ya a list of names, all convicted violators, who don't like me even a lil bit.

troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #113462
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For the record:

I have lived and hunted and fished in both Jefferson County and Tuscloosa County for more than 50 years. I have never had a problem with any game warden in either county. Troy was a game warden here, and I have respect for him both as an officer and a gentleman.

I do have problems with some of the laws and rules they are expected to administer.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BhamFred] #113967
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I personally take no offense to his statement. Just look at who said it....

Besides, If ya pushed me enough, I could be a REAL ass. I can give ya a list of names, all convicted violators, who don't like me even a lil bit.

troy


You think you'd be tough, Troy...lol...I'd kick a fellows ass if he said it to my father's face.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #116726
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I sold out and settled with the DA, after letters to the Chief, the Commissioner, and to my state reps.

The DA called and made me an offer I could not refuse. $50.00 no court cost.

So yes I am guilty of 220-2-146. sorry guys

Oh and by the way. The proper fine for this Reg is 50.00 and court cost. That is from the Chief's mouth.

My Game Warden and her Capt. wanted 500.00 plus court cost.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #116739
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I cant blame you for that man. Sucks you had to stress about it for all this time though. The deer you killed that brought this on was the best AL buck I know of from the 2010-11 season,and it was ridiculous that some ass with a badge that obviously only half-understood the inane reg she was enforcing was able to taint your experience. Either way - its over, you've still got an awesome deer, and maybe now you can help get the reg changed.

On another note...whats the deal with the fine amounts? How can they not know how much the "violation" warrants. A $450 discrepancy sounds absurd...glad you got out of most of it.

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Well the DA says that the Officer makes a request to the judge on how much the fine is. However Chief Address said that $50.00 is the proper amount for her to ask for. Plus Court Cost of course. So I guess She and her Capt. were kinda out there own there own asking for such a big fine.

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maybe somebody fat-fingered an extra 0 for that suggested fine turning 50 into 500. those guys mostly email each other about those types of things.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #116776
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It is my understanding that the charges have been dropped. the $50.00 is court cost. So I guess I am not guilty. Whatever!!!

Just glad it is over.

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If the charges are dropped, you shouldn't have to pay court costs. If you did, they would be charging people with stuff all the time just to collect court costs.


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maybe you are right I really don't know, I have not gone down there yet. I was just called by the DA. Either way, this was the cheapiest way out for me. Pay $50.00 or Pay a lawyer, which I have not done yet.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #116869
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Driveby, I've seem courts drop charges and still collect full court costs plenty of times. Ain't right, but it does happen. Seems like if charges are dropped then there is no court costs but lots of judges don't do it that way.

troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: BibbCounty] #117309
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Real Marines; adapt, overcome, and improvise but they never whine. The only question the judge asks is guilty or not guilty. On this forum you already plead guilty. Just ingnorant of the law. My advice is to Marine up pay the court cost and the 50.00 fine and move on. There is no reason to sound like the guy in the wholesale car.com commercial saying why, why, why me.
Lets get back to talking about deer hunting...
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I don't think Rob said anything about being a marine.

I wouldn't call protesting a citation for violating a rule under the current circumstances whining either. His protests are valid.

Being a marine is an honarable thing, but it doesn't give your opinion any more validity that his opinion, or mine. I am one of the last draftees of the U.S. Army and served during the Vietnam era, not that it makes any difference.

I think Rob's citation is a gross injustice given the total circumstances of the rule, it's implementation, and it's advertisement.

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Originally Posted By: Realmarine
Real Marines; adapt, overcome, and improvise but they never whine. The only question the judge asks is guilty or not guilty. On this forum you already plead guilty. Just ingnorant of the law. My advice is to Marine up pay the court cost and the 50.00 fine and move on. There is no reason to sound like the guy in the wholesale car.com commercial saying why, why, why me.
Lets get back to talking about deer hunting...
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Seriously???



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Originally Posted By: Realmarine
Real Marines; adapt, overcome, and improvise but they never whine. The only question the judge asks is guilty or not guilty. On this forum you already plead guilty. Just ingnorant of the law. My advice is to Marine up pay the court cost and the 50.00 fine and move on. There is no reason to sound like the guy in the wholesale car.com commercial saying why, why, why me.
Lets get back to talking about deer hunting...
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Seriously???


I doubt it. 1st post? Some moderator having fun.


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Hell I said I had two of them. Been along time since I was in the USMC. Hell I am old and wore out now. I am glad I struck your nerve and got you to finally sign on and say something. You and your Captian have fun on the carpet.

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Justice triumphs! Rob is forced to pay the fine for his criminal negligence on improper paperwork.

Meanwhile, Jimmy Spikeshooter has his 8 completed harvest records shoved in a drawer, and his 24 spikes are all in the freezer. Well, no law can be designed to cover all the lawbreakers, but its good to see an outlaw like Rob get whats coming to him.

Once again we see that the system works! wink


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PCP...why ain't you turkey hunting this mornin???? cool

troy


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
PCP...why ain't you turkey hunting this mornin???? cool

troy


LOL - Cause I'm the only one in the state that follows the limit. smile


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I know one more that does....... smile

troy


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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
I know one more that does....... smile

troy


No he doesn't. The guy you are talking about set his own limit at just 3; got nothing to do with the state limit. Now me, I'd keep blasting them. One a day, of course. smile


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just because the state sets it at five don't mean ya gotta kill five, esp ifin ya got a wife and grandson taking up the slack..... smile

troy


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