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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: ducksanddeer] #90777
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It just seems to me, that the higher powers that be have pushed for the implementation of a rule\law that really is a half-way completed job. I am fine with the 3 buck limit and the antler restriction. Just fully implement the rule\law so we as hunter's can start to utilize the data from it.


"the higher powers that be" have never delegated authority to implement wildlife management rules on privately owned and leased lands in our state. If the CAB wants to "fully implement" such rules, they need to go thru the proper legislative procedure to do it if they desire the support of law abiding citizens.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #90942
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I don't go along with bashing GW's as clearly stated in the other topic like this one, but that sounds a little like someone trying to make a name for themself to me. I too have a duplicate that I carry, so it is safe to say that I too could be ticketed. I assure that would be a colorful conversation between me and the GW...

Again, they have a job to do but the higher ups in the DCNR should make us a tag we can't duplicate. My buck harvest was written on a duplicate and I have probably thrown it away by now since I cleaned out my vest. Oh well...

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: doecommander] #91194
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Originally Posted By: doecommander
FACT: WARDENS ARE A-HOLES.
FACT: WARDENS LIKE WRITING TICKETS
FACT: WARDENS MAKE MISTAKES
FACT: SOME WARDENS ARE GOOD
FACT: FINDING A GOOD WARDEN IS VERY HARD IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #93515
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Just one more reason I'm glad I hunt in Tennessee. You kill a deer, you check it in. YOu get a "permanent" tag for that deer that stays with that deer until it is processed. If you get the buck mounted, you better attach the tag with it.

No way to lie or get around it for the outlaws. If they get caught with a deer and no tag, it's a ticket. No garbage to fill out or sign.

You tag it, check it and tag it again and you are good. Easy, simple and no worries.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #93524
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Swamper, the good folks down here call that MORE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION. How dare you suggest a simple method THAT WORKS. wink CD.

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #93857
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well boys I go to court friday, I am gonna take this all the way. Yall wish me luck. Hell everybody I know had two of these Harvest records.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #94317
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It might just be me but when it comes to Game Wardens, I can't recall ever having a problem with any of the ones that I know or have met in the field. I know a couple of boys here locally, one retired and the other still active that are just a couple of good ole boys, heck one of them even enjoys turkey hunting more than I do.

But to hear some folks talk about them, they are low-class piece of chits that do nothing but harass hunters. I often wonder if those that talk bad about them are the same ones that the GWs have been hired to pursue.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: muzziehead] #94382
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Originally Posted By: muzziehead
It might just be me but when it comes to Game Wardens, I can't recall ever having a problem with any of the ones that I know or have met in the field. I know a couple of boys here locally, one retired and the other still active that are just a couple of good ole boys, heck one of them even enjoys turkey hunting more than I do.

But to hear some folks talk about them, they are low-class piece of chits that do nothing but harass hunters. I often wonder if those that talk bad about them are the same ones that the GWs have been hired to pursue.

ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #94391
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troy


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #94426
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Originally Posted By: AlabamaSwamper
Just one more reason I'm glad I hunt in Tennessee. You kill a deer, you check it in. YOu get a "permanent" tag for that deer that stays with that deer until it is processed. If you get the buck mounted, you better attach the tag with it.

No way to lie or get around it for the outlaws. If they get caught with a deer and no tag, it's a ticket. No garbage to fill out or sign.

You tag it, check it and tag it again and you are good. Easy, simple and no worries.




I used to live in Ohio which had the tag system, was a major PITA when you trail & locate a deer, get to the check-in station after they close, tie up the next morning waiting for the GW to finish with his breakfast, phone calls, whatever, then take the deer to the processor. Keeping one overnight in Alabama means major headache, most guys even in Ohio just quarter it & butcher it themselves & toss the tag, sort of defeats the whole thing. Poachers up there sure don't bother with it and it never seemed to limit the night-hunters. Just another bureaucracy to deal with, more ways to make a mistake & get a ticket and really doesn't help a thing.

Think about it, an accountability program will work no better than those using it. We have about a bazillion rules & laws on the books that are vague & misunderstood all the time about hunting over bait, and you want those guys to create a tagging system?

Not me.


Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #94432
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wow i also had two on me all year and while i didnt get checked could see were i could have run into a problem.also if the game warden was hunting you all of a sudden whats all that about? sounds like she had it in for you.only time i ever see them is at ur truck coming out of the woods.i would plead my case to the judge which by the way will side with the warden 99.00% of the time then appeal and ask for jury trial.only know one game warden that was not an a hole his name is mike weathers one of the finest out there and very fair.good luck hope you win!


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: Vulkanman] #98353
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well boys I go to court friday, I am gonna take this all the way. Yall wish me luck. Hell everybody I know had two of these Harvest records.


So, how'd that big day in court turn out?

Did you win?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: jtraywick] #98383
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I've remained out of this until now. This post crossed the line with me.

You've declared 99% of Alabama Game Wardens are assholes...including my father, many friends...including B'ham Fred (Troy), and many other good officers.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #98871
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What happened to Robgillespie? How did his court come out?


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #98951
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Ok sorry guys, I went to court last friday, I knew the DA, he looked at my case and said it was a joke. Rescheduled to remove him from the case. I went ahead and hired a lawyer, because the game warden asked for max pen. of 500 plus court cost. So I am going for a jury trial, I will let 12 of my peers tell me what my fine should be, if any. So I will keep you posted. I am sure they are going to have to rewrite this law when this is all said and done.

One fact that made my lawyer laugh. She gave me a ticket for having two harvest records. When she handed it to me, she gave me another one. So there you go.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #98980
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So you are set for a bench trail in May? You know that is not a jury trial correct? You must think you are going to lose the trial in May, if you are already planning a jury trial.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: doekiller] #98997
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no not really, other than the fact that most people dont win anything in district court. I guess you are one of those that thinks I should have got this ticket. I guess you are entitleed to your opinion. But I never said May. Funny how you know so much about it. Look I never said I did not have two of these records. But I was not trying to get around this law. The law clearly states that it is a violation to have two harvest records, for the purpose of avoiding the requirements of this regulation. Oh well great discussion I guess, I think I am not guilty, everyone else gets to have their opinion. That is how america works. All I said is I want to have 12 of my peers tell me what they think. That is my right.

Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #99018
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When is the date and time for your next scheduled hearing for the case?

I may have to come sit in and listen if it's going to be something that could affect a regulation.


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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: robgillaspie] #99024
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I never said you were guilty or that you should plead guilty. If you knew anything about me, you would not ask that question. I have no idea if you are guilty or innocent. But, I do know that your case was reset on May 13, 2011 for a bench trial. Before you start, I am not an employee of the state, just interested in the outcome because I hate to see innocent people get the shaft. By the way, I see people win stuff in District Court all the time.

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Re: Charged with 220-2-146 I guess since we are bitching [Re: doekiller] #99109
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Well I am sorry if I took you wrong. My plan is to plead not guilty in Distict Court. I may have it tried in front of the Judge or I may elect to go straight to the jury trial. Either way I will tesitfy to the fact that I did have two harvest records like the GW said I did. However my argument will be that I was not trying to hide this deer from anyone. Hell I was and I'm proud that I killed it.

If anyone wants to come Court will be in Guntersville Court House May 13th 9 am. District Court.

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