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Trophy rock experiments #852994
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I'm a believer big time in the pulling power of trophy rocks during the summer. This year I'm thinking of buying the crushed rock and doing somethings different.I'm going to drive a small pipe a couple of feet in the lick and pull it out. I'm then going to fill it with crushed trophy rock creating a mineral vein. The other idea was to put the rock in a tater sack and hang it off the ground. Anybody else do either?


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #852997
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Nope, just chunk them out on the ground and drive off


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Ive done a couple of spots where i took the back hoe and dug a hole about 3ft wide x 2 ft deep. Took one of those large plastic tubs like we use for gut buckets put it in the hole and filled it almost to the top with dirt.

I then put my trophy rock and mineral block on it. The minerals that dissolve will stay in the buckets dirt and not leach away. The plastic bucket will last for years when out of UV light and keep everything in one spot.

Have also done this with large plastic flower pots and stump holes.

I buy black or green pots/buckets and don't place them in any low areas where you get a lot of runoff or possible water standing.


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: hunterturf] #853131
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Originally Posted By: hunterturf
Nope, just chunk them out on the ground and drive off

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back in the old days, use to but salt in burlap bag and hang 8ft in air. When it rained the salt rain out.

Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: shooters] #853237
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I bought a bag of that crushed trophy rock last year to try it out. Deer didn't touch it. So I went back to using the rocks themselves.


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #853904
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I had a similar experience to MS_Hunter above...buried the rock about halfway, deer are still visiting that site today, and that was over a year ago. Poured the crushed stuff out by a feeder this year and I can't tell they even noticed it. Beats me??


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #853926
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
I'm a believer big time in the pulling power of trophy rocks during the summer. This year I'm thinking of buying the crushed rock and doing somethings different.I'm going to drive a small pipe a couple of feet in the lick and pull it out. I'm then going to fill it with crushed trophy rock creating a mineral vein. The other idea was to put the rock in a tater sack and hang it off the ground. Anybody else do either?


Are you going to crush a trophy rock or do they sell it that way? FYI, a crushed trophy rock would be the EXACT SAME thing as Redmonds All Natural Trace Mineral salt. Trophy rocks and Redmonds comes out of the same hole in the ground. 50# bag of Redmonds salt is $8.50 per bag......


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #853936
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I would stay away from Redmonds Natural, all the deer do is dig a big hole that holds water.





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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #854022
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Ice cream salt or rock salt for me does well especially after reading the analysis on the back of the trophy rock.

Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: swamp_fever2002] #854023
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I hear ya!! Looks like that's a bad thing! What part of the country you in?

Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #854056
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I use buck jam religiously. Doesn't matter what flavor. I will go down in a creek bottom and rake back the leaves in a four foot circle and find me a rotten log laying close by. I lay the rotten log right in the middle of the bare dirt circle and pour the buck jam all over the log and all over the bare dirt. I hang my camera looking at the lick. There are usually deer on the camera within a few hours of me leaving. I kept a camera up over a buck jam lick from last April till October and was averaging 1000 pics per week. I put out one gallon in April and freshened it up with another gallon in July.


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #854088
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The stuff I'm talking about is FOUR65 which is a 30 pound bag of 2 to 3 inch busted pieces of Trophy rock.


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #854127
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I think what I used was the actual "Rack Rock Crush", which they advertise to the be a real crushed up Rack Rock. It's just a dark graphite colored powder.


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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #854138
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Where can you get the Redman's? Tractor Suppy, local feed store.....


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Trophy rocks are expensive for what ya get IMO. The salt is what is the drawing card. I've used a mix of 2 parts loose red trace mineral to 1 part di-cal phosphate for years. It works very good, has some mineral value and is cost effective. I get more pics than I care to delete with that recipe also.



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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: bigt] #854179
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Where can you get the Redman's? Tractor Suppy, local feed store.....
You would be better off getting some Record Rack Mineral from Tractor Supply. I will be mixing it in my mineral licks this year.

About the closest place from you bigt is in TN for Redmonds..



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2Dogs wish I could find some di-cal here locally. I would mix it with the Redmonds, use to use it years ago.



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Originally Posted By: swamp_fever2002
2Dogs wish I could find some di-cal here locally. I would mix it with the Redmonds, use to use it years ago.



Ha ha, we have the opposite problem, we can get the di-cal here in NA,but not Redmonds. That would be a fine mix for sure.

If anyone in NEA is gonna make a run to Tenn for a load of Redmonds, I'd like to try some.

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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #854328
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I've still got a small stash of the 40lb Trophy Rocks that I used to sell on here. Gotta put one out on my place soon.


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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: swamp_fever2002
2Dogs wish I could find some di-cal here locally. I would mix it with the Redmonds, use to use it years ago.



Ha ha, we have the opposite problem, we can get the di-cal here in NA,but not Redmonds. That would be a fine mix for sure.

If anyone in NEA is gonna make a run to Tenn for a load of Redmonds, I'd like to try some.


They keep the redmonds at Kimball Tractor supply.


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Bag of white salt from the co-op has always done good for me

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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: swamp_fever2002
2Dogs wish I could find some di-cal here locally. I would mix it with the Redmonds, use to use it years ago.



Ha ha, we have the opposite problem, we can get the di-cal here in NA,but not Redmonds. That would be a fine mix for sure.

If anyone in NEA is gonna make a run to Tenn for a load of Redmonds, I'd like to try some.


They keep the redmonds at Kimball Tractor supply.


Thanks, I'll check Scottsboro's TSC, may have to make a run to Kimball.



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What type location is best for a mineral site? Close to water? On a ridge? In a holler??

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Closer to water lefthorn and in clay is best, the one I posted above was about 60 yards from the river.


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Yes clay is best. We haven't put out blocks in several years and they keep clawing up that clay to get the salt out.

Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: hunterturf] #854473
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Originally Posted By: hunterturf
Nope, just chunk them out on the ground and drive off

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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Trophy rocks are expensive for what ya get IMO. The salt is what is the drawing card. I've used a mix of 2 parts loose red trace mineral to 1 part di-cal phosphate for years. It works very good, has some mineral value and is cost effective. I get more pics than I care to delete with that recipe also.
I also use this and it better than any rock, crush, ect.

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Just got a couple of trophy rocks now to grab a camera and see what comes to get a lick.

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WHITETAIL DEER HOMEMADE MINERAL MIX RECIPE
Printable version
Ingredients: Makes 200 lbs. for about $23.00

1 part Di-calcium phosphate, this is a dairy feed additive bought at feed stores.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $11.00 you need one bag.

2 parts Trace mineral salt, the red and loos kind without the medications.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $5.00 you need two bags.

1 part Stock salt, ice cream salt.
Comes in 50lb Bags at around $2.00 you need one bag.

Directions:

-Use a 3 pound or similar size coffee can to use as your measure for each part of the mix.

-Mix all together well but not until read to use, keep ingredients separate until ready to put to use.

-Dig or tear up a circle in the soil about 36 inches wide and about 6 inches deep.

-Mix your mineral mixture with the soil.

Maintenance:

-Replenish in 6 months with fresh supply of mineral, and then each year there after.


Helpful hints: One is best time to put it out is March/April and I put all 200 lbs in one hole. Also I like a water source to be within 100 yards.

If you put it out this time just put 100lbs won't do as much for them now. But will be a slight draw. Good Luck


These prices are a few years old, but the recipe is still gold!!!

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Re: Trophy rock experiments [Re: ridgestalker] #856772
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arKic, That recipe is from a guy I use to listen to on the radio here in Missouri years ago. Allen Morris was his name. It was given to him from a private land conservationist from Missouri Department of Conservation in the 80's thumbup


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My Dad and I use the recipe above (arKic's post), but we use lime in place of the stock/ice cream salt. The deer absolutely love it!

We put a big batch of this in our mineral sites in February, then freshen them up with half as much again in the Summer (usually August or so).

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