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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849126
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No they won't please everyone. I personally would like to see us get actual tags for buck, when u buy your license u get three tags when u get caught without a tag applied then its an automatic ticket or a ride the slammer and if u lose one to bad no replacements


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: 2Dogs] #849141
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
The last thing this state needs is Feb. Hunting statewide. Give it where its justified, and leave everybody else alone.


You are correct, Sir.


X2. If anything for my area I would like them to take 15 days away in January and open 15 days earlier here

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849185
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Saw a nice buck chasing in Pike County yesterday morning.


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849187
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Had one chasing in Pike County yesterday too Skinny...right out in the Brundidge Golf Course...

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849217
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Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
Originally Posted By: wareagle22
GW told us last week the push is to get it to Hwy 80 and I-85 and include everything south of these 2 roads.


That would be ideal.



I think this would be the way to go also,I'm already in the Feb zone so I'm not affected,the way it's laid out now is crazy IMO

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: 2Dogs] #849366
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: robb
I too think that the season should start later and got into Feb state wide.


NO!


If an adult cant kill a mature buck with all the days we have he isn't spending enough time in the woods or there just aren't any where he is hunting! Bow season should open earlier!!! There should be a youth weekend the following weekend after deer season closes along with the one we have already. That way the kids can get in on the late rut areas without the adults jacking it up! Just my opinion!!!!!


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849375
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This thread reminds me of that old saying about opinions and butt holes.


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849388
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I think they should eliminate early bow season altogether, just open bow & rifle for 3 days at Thanksgiving and then open bow & rifle again Dec 20 and stay in till March 15 state wide. If you don't want to hunt past Jan 31 stay at the house. If you want to possum and squirrel hunt then lease some land. Just MHO. grin

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849400
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Less rifle season - dont care when, just less of it. February season could be all month, but should be bow only.

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849411
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Originally Posted By: teamduckdown
Originally Posted By: PEA_RIDGE
How bout we don't complain about when we get to hunt.. take Kentucky for example .. look at their restrictions and dates

https://app.fw.ky.gov/SeasonDates/Default.aspx

Take it how y'all want but I'm happy to be able to hunt 3 1/2 months straight..


Kentucky is one of the more liberal "Midwest" states. Not really sure what your point is.

I wish Alabama would tighten down on it's game laws. The 3 buck maximum was a start, but I would guess more people than not, pay no attention to that law.

Bottom line is. They will never make every hunter happy.


The "3 buck maximum" is not a law and it was not implemented in accordance with the law.

If agencies ignore the law, why shouldn't hunters?

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849477
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Highway 80 and I-85 lines would suck donkey kongs.


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: Gotcha1] #849492
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Originally Posted By: Gotcha1
Highway 80 and I-85 lines would suck donkey kongs.


not for me, would be about right for south Montgomery Co. Checked cams yesterday and had 2 mature shooter bucks on cam that I had never seen or had pics of before. Been running cams since early Sept.

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: roscopeecotrane] #849499
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Originally Posted By: roscopeecotrane
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: robb
I too think that the season should start later and got into Feb state wide.


NO!


If an adult cant kill a mature buck with all the days we have he isn't spending enough time in the woods or there just aren't any where he is hunting! Bow season should open earlier!!! There should be a youth weekend the following weekend after deer season closes along with the one we have already. That way the kids can get in on the late rut areas without the adults jacking it up! Just my opinion!!!!!


i assume you are only reffering to your area

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: ronfromramer] #849505
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Originally Posted By: ronfromramer
Originally Posted By: Gotcha1
Highway 80 and I-85 lines would suck donkey kongs.


not for me, would be about right for south Montgomery Co. Checked cams yesterday and had 2 mature shooter bucks on cam that I had never seen or had pics of before. Been running cams since early Sept.


Thanks for thinking about your pals. smile


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849515
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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: ikillbux] #849522
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
roscopee said it above, if you can't kill a buck in 3 1/2 months, maybe needing to hunt during the rut isn't the real problem. I am 40 years old, have hunted my whole life, and have hunted in Lowndes, Lee, Chambers, Macon, Tallapoosa, Talladega, Calhoun, and Cleburne counties. I have seen deer chasing in October, Nov, Dec, and Jan. I have hunted multiple seasons in a row without seeing even a spike walking behind a doe. And I have killed at least one good buck virtually ever year. I couldn't care less if I see a buck chasing a doe or not, and I don't need that to happen for me to see a mature buck. My point is I (nor you) need the rut to happen in order to kill a mature buck. Every time a hunter tells me "I never see mature bucks until the last week of January" (or February, or Spring Turkey Season), I immediately want him to show me where he's been sitting. If that's your case, the problem is NOT needing the rut to occur, but rather you need to move where you can see a big buck. Get out of the shooting house, get off the fields, don't ride you ATV within earshot of your tree, be in the tree WAY before daylight, sit till WAY after dark, quit hunting in that "pretty spot" where you want deer to be, and on and on and on. Big bucks are in the cutovers from Thanksgiving through January, period. If you don't have cutovers, find a new club that does, because you got jacksquat chance of seeing a big buck in any other place. But quit screwing up a 3 1/2 month long hunting season because you've bought into the "Outdoor Channel" hunting worldview. If you have racked deer on your cameras at night, they are there in the light!!! And they don't lay flat all day long, they're not in a cave, they will actually stand up and move during daylight SOMEWHERE on your land. If your land is thick, all short pines, etc., find another land!!!! Quit being a "hunting club" member. Put the climber on your back, walk as far as you need to, don't be stupid with the wind, and hunt where the bucks are, not just on the big pretty greenfield that he is NEVER gonna walk out on. In the last 20 seasons I have killed more mounter bucks from Oct 15 - Oct 31 than all the rest of the season combined. And I have NEVER hunted anywhere that a genuine rut didn't occur between Christmas and Jan 10. Deer are poly-estrous, meaning they'll cycle every 28 days till bred. The rut will get stronger each cycle because fewer does are remaining. First rut will be weak, 2nd rut stronger, etc. What you're seeing from Jan 25 thru Feb 10 is the stronger 2nd cycle. The first true Alabama rut happened between Christmas and Jan 10. You may not have seen it, but those scrapes didn't show up mid-December for nothing. But I guess you were expecting every racked deer on your land to be wide-eyed and fighting, standing in the powerline with a doe, and otherwise acting like the Outdoor Channel shows?? It's Alabama, it's just the genetic dispostion of our deer, and the overall poor deer structure. You can't depend on a defined, dependable rut. If Bama's season ran from June 1 through Sept 15 (3.5 months) I'd still kill deer. I reckon I sound like a know-it-all, but it's just common sense. If you had to kill a buck to eat (or you'd starve to death), how would you do it???....men, you've got 3 1/2 months to kill 3 bucks. Don't piss it all away hoping (against hope) that they'll finally walk the last day of season. And don't take my October away because you want an Outdoor Channel rut-hunt in February. I killed three good racked bucks this year...you want to know when I killed them? Nov 29, Dec 11, Jan 7. I also shot a buck and lost him on Dec 7. And I probably saw at least 10 racked bucks this year. Not a single one of them was chasing a doe. The common denominator?....Hardwoods in bow season, cutover in gun season.




Would you post some pics of your deer from this year? Congrats.


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849531
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If you go I hunt to say Illinois,Iowa or Kansas when do you try to go? You plan it around the rut which is reasonably easy to know/do when their rut is pretty much the same every yea and their is some season in (gun or bow) during those times. To think you don't have a better chance at a better buck during the rut is foolish. Regardless of where you hunt, when you hunt or how you hunt your odds are greatly increased during the rut. I am proud the state is making an effort to give all the hunters the same hunting experiences.

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: teamduckdown] #849541
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I'm all for moving the season back until Nov 1. I'm in east to central Morgan county and I believe a good part of ours are rutting now especially older bucks. They've been scraping hard and within the last 2 weeks I've had pics of bucks that have broke antlers fighting. Besides that I can deal without fighting mosquitoes and snakes the first 2 weeks anyways.

The main area that a season move would hurt would be Lawrence and Winston around the Forrest. Not saying there are no other places that have rut activity early but they definitely do there.

Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: ikillbux] #849548
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
roscopee said it above, if you can't kill a buck in 3 1/2 months, maybe needing to hunt during the rut isn't the real problem. I am 40 years old, have hunted my whole life, and have hunted in Lowndes, Lee, Chambers, Macon, Tallapoosa, Talladega, Calhoun, and Cleburne counties. I have seen deer chasing in October, Nov, Dec, and Jan. I have hunted multiple seasons in a row without seeing even a spike walking behind a doe. And I have killed at least one good buck virtually ever year. I couldn't care less if I see a buck chasing a doe or not, and I don't need that to happen for
me to see a mature buck. My point is I (nor you) need the rut to happen in order to kill a mature buck. Every time a hunter tells me "I never see mature bucks until the last week of January" (or February, or Spring Turkey Season), I immediately want him to show me where he's been sitting. If that's your case, the problem is NOT needing the rut to occur, but rather you need to move where you can see a big buck. Get out of the shooting house, get off the fields, don't ride you ATV within earshot of your tree, be in the tree WAY before daylight, sit till WAY after dark, quit hunting in that "pretty spot" where you want deer to be, and on and on and on. Big bucks are in the cutovers from Thanksgiving through January, period. If you don't have cutovers, find a new club that does, because you got jacksquat chance of seeing a big buck in any other place. But quit screwing up a 3 1/2 month long hunting season because you've bought into the "Outdoor Channel" hunting worldview. If you have racked deer on your cameras at night, they are there in the light!!! And they don't lay flat all day long, they're not in a cave, they will actually stand up and move during daylight SOMEWHERE on your land. If your land is thick, all short pines, etc., find another land!!!! Quit being a "hunting club" member. Put the climber on your back, walk as far as you need to, don't be stupid with the wind, and hunt where the bucks are, not just on the big pretty greenfield that he is NEVER gonna walk out on. In the last 20 seasons I have killed more mounter bucks from Oct 15 - Oct 31 than all the rest of the season combined. And I have NEVER hunted anywhere that a genuine rut didn't occur between Christmas and Jan 10. Deer are poly-estrous, meaning they'll cycle every 28 days till bred. The rut will get stronger each cycle because fewer does are remaining. First rut will be weak, 2nd rut stronger, etc. What you're seeing from Jan 25 thru Feb 10 is the stronger 2nd cycle. The first true Alabama rut happened between Christmas and Jan 10. You may not have seen it, but those scrapes didn't show up mid-December for nothing. But I guess you were expecting every racked deer on your land to be wide-eyed and fighting, standing in the powerline with a doe, and otherwise acting like the Outdoor Channel shows?? It's Alabama, it's just the genetic dispostion of our deer, and the overall poor deer structure. You can't depend on a defined, dependable rut. If Bama's season ran from June 1 through Sept 15 (3.5 months) I'd still kill deer. I reckon I sound like a know-it-all, but it's just common sense. If you had to kill a buck to eat (or you'd starve to death), how would you do it???....men, you've got 3 1/2 months to kill 3 bucks. Don't piss it all away hoping (against hope) that they'll finally walk the last day of season. And don't take my October away because you want an Outdoor Channel rut-hunt in February. I killed three good racked bucks this year...you want to know when I killed them? Nov 29, Dec 11, Jan 7. I also shot a buck and lost him on Dec 7. And I probably saw at least 10 racked bucks this year. Not a single one of them was chasing a doe. The common denominator?....Hardwoods in bow season, cutover in gun season.


Thanks, but you don't have a clue as to what everyone's situation is. Nice effort. grin


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Re: The February Deer season needs to encompass more of the state.. [Re: Brent] #849549
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Originally Posted By: Brent
Originally Posted By: Haybale
I know on my land in Marshall county that the rut is just now starting really. Scrapes an tubs started showing up jan. 27 and I seen 2 mature bucks chasing today.


Same way here in Etowah. An hour south or north of here the rut is around Christmas.

Yep, some people wont except the fact that Etowah starts in Feb.

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