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Re: Big Cat [Re: Blackhawk] #651290
08/16/13 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Blackhawk
until someone shoots on of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating.


Isn't it against the law to shoot one.... grin


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Re: Big Cat [Re: Tru-Talker] #651315
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Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
Originally Posted By: Blackhawk
until someone shoots on of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating.


Isn't it against the law to shoot one.... grin
so thet say whoever they is, i found online that the dcnr says they are here i do remember reading that the dcnr says no they are not here, change 99 they are too there is a site that documents a lot of stuff on big cats here in our state it is called cougar net, it tells about puma that have left the florida panhandle spreading back here. i hope going to the deer stand i don't run up on one in the dark. no telling what it will smell if i do. gun or bow in hand i will defend my self as best i can:) thumbup yes i think you are correct beside if it attacks me then it is up to proof in court it might get stuck by some of my cold steel knives. in the process somebody shoot amongst us some body got to have relief

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Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651560
08/16/13 03:13 PM
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I know a fellow that lives in Sherwood Tn that has seen 1 on two different occasions. I don't believe this guy was mistaken and lying is out of the question. Our game warden here in Jackson will tell you straight up he watched one on the Jerico tract for several minutes.


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Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651579
08/16/13 03:32 PM
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I would be interested to know if that was a male or not. If it's a female, there might be a breeding population there. So far as Florida Panthers, males can range light years from where they are born. The breeding females are more homebodies than the males and won't range as far. But you could put what I know about them in a thimble.



Re: Big Cat [Re: Deadwood] #651590
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I dont give a rats arse if anyone believes me or not but I have seen two in Alabama.One when I was sixteen.It was up on top of that mountain that overlooks the Waterworks land everyone was talking about on here a couple weeks ago.The other one was in Perry co.during bow season two years ago.I am one of the guys that Bamabart was refering to.I know what I saw and dont care if anyones believes me or not.


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Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651596
08/16/13 03:48 PM
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Isaw one in perry county in 2000, it came from a river bottom and crossed a hay field about 350yds from me. When I first saw it I t looked like a deer coming out of the woods. It went behind a burn pile in the field I put the scope on it whenbit came out the other side and it was a cougar. It walked up a hill to the edge of the cow pasture and layed down beside a tree and I guess looked for calfs for about 5 minutes and then turned and went backb the way it came. I described it to my dad by saying it was the color of a deer, its head looked like a boxer (dog) and the tail seemed 3 ft long. I don't know if it was wild or a pet that got loose but it was a cougar no doubt in my mind and I will never forget it

Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651603
08/16/13 04:02 PM
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I grew up in Perry County on 160 acres in the middle of Talladega NF. We moved from there to Gadsden in 1990 but kept the place and were usually back down there every weekend especially during deer season. We fed the deer in two different spots, both of which could be seen out the window of my room. One spot was in the back yard on the edge of the woods and about 60 yards from the house, and the other was in the upper end of the green field that was planted in the bottom below the house, about 150 yards from the house. I would always wake up at least once in the middle of the night and shine a spotlight out the window and see what was on the corn piles. The deer got used to it over the years I guess and it didn't seem to bother them at all. Well, one night I shined the back yard at about 2am and there was a lone spike in the back yard. I watched him for a couple minutes and he kept looking up the hill to my left in the woods. I shined the ligh up there and could see eyes a few yards back in the bushes. After a couple minutes of me switching the light back and forth between the two, the spike kind of eased off into the woods to my right and out of the woods to my left came the cat. In full stalk mode, squatted all the way down, he crept right straitght across the yard and right in where the spike had gone.

The whole scenario lasted about 6 or 8 minutes, but the cat was in the yard, in the open, 40 or 50 yards from me for about a minute or so. There is no doubt what it was. It was as plain as the one in the Field and Stream article posted above.

We also heard one scream one night when we got home from dinner. We got out and shut the car doors and one screamed across the green field and up on the side of a big hill a couple hundred yards away. No doubt in my mind what that was either. Made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

I was also sitting in a ladder stand about 100 yards from where I saw the first cat one cold morning when 2 cubs walked right under my stand right at first light. I could hear the mother cat (I presume) walking parallel to them in some thick stuff behind me but I never saw her.

Another instance of a guy I took down there seeing a black one at 50 yards. He would not lie and said the cat was 7 or 8 feet long from nose to tail.

Never saw one track in the 20 years that I lived and hunted on this land. Can't explain that.


Re: Big Cat [Re: ridgestalker] #651644
08/16/13 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
I know a fellow that lives in Sherwood Tn that has seen 1 on two different occasions. I don't believe this guy was mistaken and lying is out of the question. Our game warden here in Jackson will tell you straight up he watched one on the Jerico tract for several minutes.


I saw the first and only cat I've ever seen near Sherwood. May 14, 2011. It was about 7 am and good daylight and I was sitting on a big rock listening for a turkey to gobble. I watched a cat that looked to be about the same color as a deer with a winter coat slip out of a hollow and cross a little hardwood bench at a distance of 65-70 yards. It was open timber and I could see the whole cat, tail and all on 3 or 4 different occasions.
I used to be in the group that said no way they're here some redneck would have already shot one if that was the case but I know what my eyes tell me I saw so either there are some big cats this far north or I had a hallucination one or the other.

Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651694
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All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!?

Re: Big Cat [Re: jlbuc10] #651707
08/16/13 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!?


Probably the same reason most people don't rob a bank when their running a little short. It's against the law. Why would a person want to destroy one if their not in danger?


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Re: Big Cat [Re: ridgestalker] #651726
08/16/13 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!?


Probably the same reason most people don't rob a bank when their running a little short. It's against the law. Why would a person want to destroy one if their not in danger?
this got me to looking into sightings reported and all so i brought up Google and typed in cougar sightings in Alabama , it brought up one article of a wildlife ecology professor at auburn and he said we have cougars bears wolf, they are protected. but moving north west. now panthers are from south Florida he did say we don't have black panthers here but that they are on the move, but it is possible to have them in our lifetime.so there you have it:)


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Re: Big Cat [Re: Remington270] #651751
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
The panthers are like "cow tipping" Everyone always has a "friend" who did it or saw it. Neither exist in Bama.



I saw a big brown cat in Troy AL in the late 80's. I was sitting in a tree stand bordering a big swamp when some dogs from a neighboring club came into the swamp chasing a deer. That thing came slinking out of the marsh and walked within 20 yards of my stand and crouched down in a logging road. It's ears were pinned back and it's long tail was flicking back and forth like it was agitated. It laid in that position for over an hour after the dogs left with me watching it through my rifle scope. I don't know if it was a mountain lion or a panther or if it was wild or an escaped pet or whatever. I don't care what you or anyone else says either, I know what I saw. Since that day I have logged thousands of hours in the woods and have never seen anything I thought to be a large cat or their tracks, and I have hunted all over this state.


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Re: Big Cat [Re: jlbuc10] #651764
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!?


If somebody was to shoot one, they'd be crazy for reporting it.


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Re: Big Cat [Re: jlbuc10] #651767
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!?


I did not shoot cause I really did not want to shoot at 350yds and dang sure did not want to trail it. I have never seen another one. Our tractor mechanic claims to have seen on twice I vthe same area I saw that one, but it was 9 yrs before he said he saw one.

Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651771
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It's closed season on mountain lions making them illegal to shoot. What if it were a panther, or puma, or jaguar, or cougar that you saw. I don't see anything about a closed season on those animals in Alabama? Plus if these animals were found in Alabama wouldn't they be considered non native and be a threat to local wildlife? I think I remember someone on here killing an axis deer in the wild in Alabama last year. There is no closed or open season for axis deer, and that guy didn't get arrested for killing the axis.

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A cougar is a mountain lion is a puma is a catamount. All the same thing, just slang words for mountain lion.


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Re: Big Cat [Re: Hogwild] #651782
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they are native to the state.


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Re: Big Cat [Re: jlbuc10] #651791
08/17/13 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!?


you are kidding right? that is ILLEGAL..that is why! who wants to be arrested? their game rights to hunt taken away????

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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
It's closed season on mountain lions making them illegal to shoot. What if it were a panther, or puma, or jaguar, or cougar that you saw. I don't see anything about a closed season on those animals in Alabama? Plus if these animals were found in Alabama wouldn't they be considered non native and be a threat to local wildlife? I think I remember someone on here killing an axis deer in the wild in Alabama last year. There is no closed or open season for axis deer, and that guy didn't get arrested for killing the axis.


are you ok? go look..mountain lions are also called cougars, panthers....try to make some sense ok?

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I figured there would be some genetic differences. I they're all the same what makes the Florida panther endangered and mountain lions, or any other painter like cats not endangered?

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