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Big Cat
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08/15/13 01:04 PM
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A guy I know was hog hunting this morning when his dogs ran up on this big cat and ran him up a tree. I can only imagine that it was pretty exciting!!
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/15/13 01:06 PM
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And he only took one picture of it?
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: YEKRUT]
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08/15/13 01:17 PM
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need a better picture! whatever it is almost appears to be black in color???
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
#650677
08/15/13 01:32 PM
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Hold on I need freakin pop corn.
kill em all let God sort em out
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
#650715
08/15/13 01:58 PM
08/15/13 01:58 PM
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Sure it wasn't a Ditch Tiger ?
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/15/13 02:00 PM
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DCNR says it's released from captivity. Nothing to worry about.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Clem]
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08/15/13 02:00 PM
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DCNR says it's released from captivity. Nothing to worry about. Uh, ok.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
#650723
08/15/13 02:06 PM
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Yeah I know. I was being facetious.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/15/13 02:52 PM
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Looks like a dang lion cub!
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
#650774
08/15/13 02:57 PM
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Being that I am the resident black painter expert on Aldeer, only my opinion matters. It is my expert opinion that the cat in the picture is a dirty albino black painter. No doubt about it.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
#650861
08/15/13 04:28 PM
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270wsm, oh man.... that was funnnneeeeeeeee! If you're not on Aldeer much, you won't get what 270 said.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
#650922
08/15/13 05:14 PM
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Steve said it was not far from the river near his home....and it was DEFINITELY a panther! Be great if we knew where Steve lived.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/15/13 05:22 PM
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I bet Steve lives near the T'bee River. Jus'guessin'!
I'm guessing he didn't shoot it. I hope not.
I know a man that saw a panther about three months ago off the T'bee River. I'm not calling names but I believe him and he was 100% sure of what he saw at 40 yards!
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: 270wsm]
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08/15/13 05:28 PM
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I remember the day daddy took that photo. We was investigating a drug drop when daddy spotted that cat trying to get the package out the tree. Daddy was in law enforcement. Was that right after he disabled those trip wires and almost fell in that pungi stick pit when running after those black copters that were dropping that dang marry wanna?
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/15/13 05:41 PM
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on the serious note. Ive never said anything about big cats in alabama...but I surely believe they live here.
My wife and I both saw one cross the road in front of our truck when driving to our land a few years ago. I almost ran the sob over..it was less then 10 yards from the truck.
I know big cats..I filmed them dying in North Dakota. I also know their tracks well..as we would find tracks in the snow...and set dogs on them tree them and Id film them being shot.
I also filmed one in Florida about eleven years ago as he came out of some thicket right along the Florida turnpike and ambushed five jakes that had come into my calling. SOB almost had them too..he leaped in the air as they flew off and missed the last one by inches!
I also filmed them in the rockies when hunting in Wyoming.
My wife got real concerned as on our land right in front of one of my treestands ..in the mud there were tracks..no claws...just pads..going both ways up the mountain into the cliffs.
Also..the holla I hunt is called DEMBO holler....the holler next over is called CRY BABY holler...they say for the sound of the cougars at night sounding like babies crying in the night.
We have big cliffs...lots of caves and rocky ledges on the top of the mountain.
I never wanted to get in a pissing contest over it..but I know what I saw was SURELY a mountain lion. Of that I have NO DOUBT!
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Remington270]
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08/15/13 05:58 PM
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The panthers are like "cow tipping" Everyone always has a "friend" who did it or saw it. Neither exist in Bama. why say you saw one in here ???? i know this if some one tells me they saw one , i wouldn't flat out disbelieve them . lol
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Remington270]
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08/15/13 06:06 PM
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I believe that people "think" they have seen one. I think it's mistaken identity. in some cases you're more than likely right .
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: MTeague]
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08/15/13 07:28 PM
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I'll say it again.
There are an estimated 100+ panthers in Florida. Yet, there are hundreds of trail cam pictures "Great Quality Photos" taken yearly. There are also, around 10 hit and killed every year.
-How many good pictures are there of panthers in Alabama-NONE -How many get hit and killed on the road here every year-NONE
There is not a population of wild panthers in Alabama.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 12:42 AM
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LOL
I guess so, Bartman......
He lives in FL and hunts in an area KNOWN to hold the big cats. I just wanted to see how many people would see house cats, big bobcats, and photoshops. Interestingly enough, even though Steve is in his 40's and has lived and hunted the same area his entire life; this is the FIRST panther he has ever seen or gotten a pic of! So, the old "If they exist, there should be pics" argument is not all that true!
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: 270wsm]
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08/16/13 02:31 AM
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I remember the day daddy took that photo. We was investigating a drug drop when daddy spotted that cat trying to get the package out the tree. Daddy was in law enforcement. LMAO!!!!!
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 02:58 AM
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: doecommander]
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08/16/13 03:09 AM
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Being that I am the resident black painter expert on Aldeer, only my opinion matters. It is my expert opinion that the cat in the picture is a dirty albino black painter. No doubt about it. A black painter ? Not to be confused with a Black Panther ?
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: quailman]
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08/16/13 03:11 AM
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This one killed a local man's prize Black Angus Bull... Damn Ditch Tigers !
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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08/16/13 03:21 AM
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This one killed a local man's prize Black Angus Bull... Damn Ditch Tigers ! That thing right there will do more damage to the songbird and small game population than any other animal in Alabama
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: IDOT]
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08/16/13 03:22 AM
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I'll say it again.
There are an estimated 100+ panthers in Florida. Yet, there are hundreds of trail cam pictures "Great Quality Photos" taken yearly. There are also, around 10 hit and killed every year.
-How many good pictures are there of panthers in Alabama-NONE -How many get hit and killed on the road here every year-NONE
There is not a population of wild panthers in Alabama. I'm not being a smartass I'm just asking why is mountain lions in the harvest guide of DCNR? Is it their way of being funny? I don't know. Is the habitat in Florida much different than south Alabama and Georgia? What is their range?
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: jlbuc10]
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08/16/13 04:08 AM
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I think we should go big cat hunting with trail cams. Lets have an aldeer contest for getting a picture in Alabama. Put out "scent" traps, using some kind of feline scent. Or some kind of meat bait. According to outdoor Alabama there are less than 50 black bears in south Alabama, and yall get pics all the time. Certainly if panthers are out there in any numbers we should be able to get pics if we really try. On a side note have y'all ever set a "camera trap" specifically to try and get panther pics? Me and another member here set up 3 cameras over raw meat. A few large calves had come up dead one supposedly drug over a fence. State folks were investigating a nearby property to see what they found. I am kin to two hunters that left a shot deer overnight on joining property and found it the next day. It was drug between two rocks (best I can describe from the video.) Two folks pulling on it would not remove it and they hooked it to an atv to free it. Of course we did not get any pics or everyone around would know it one way or another. If I recall correctly Wiley had his (find)on Ga Mnt. If that's the case this property is about 12 miles from there. One thing I know for sure is that a hunting buddy of mine saw a mnt lion in the late 70's at or close to Choccolocco. His coon dogs ran a track until after daylight. He cut them off on a ridge and the cat was several yards ahead of the dogs. He got a good look at it. This guy is the best outdoorsman Ill ever know and one of the few left that if he told me a frog would pull a wagon I would hitch him up.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: 270wsm]
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08/16/13 04:13 AM
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I remember the day daddy took that photo. We was investigating a drug drop when daddy spotted that cat trying to get the package out the tree. Daddy was in law enforcement. Winner. This thread is over. Looks like a Yellow Lab to me anyway.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 04:15 AM
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I won't say that I'm positive that I've seen one. I got a quick look at something getting out of the road one evening where two other guys had seen one earlier in the spring. I have about 3 friends that swear that they saw a large grey colored cat in Perry county. One of my friends who lives there has seen a big tan cat cross the road in front of him one night. His daughter was with him and they love telling the story when they are together. It's funny listening to her excitement every time she talks about it. I believe that they are in Alabama but just not a lot of them. Someone will kill one some day and probably go to jail. It's just a matter of time.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 04:22 AM
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One time I saw Bronco threaten Boone with a boat paddle while wearing his tighty whities. I didn't get pictures but I know what I saw.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 04:35 AM
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 04:41 AM
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http://www.easterncougarnet.org/Cougar-Alabama's%20Native%20Lion.htm
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 04:58 AM
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The Associated Press, WHNT, WSFA, WKRG, and other media reported on the afternoon of Saturday, December 04, 2010, that Frank Harmes was recovering after being attacked by a panther near his Marshall County home, Alabama. Harmes says he was walking his dog around Greenbriar Cove behind his home near Morgan City when he heard something behind him and turned to see a black panther.
Harmes lives off of Royster Drive near Morgan City. Harmes says he moved to try to scare the panther away, but instead it attacked, ripped his pants, and clawed his leg. He says he stabbed the animal twice with a knife and it ran away. He reports the attack took place on Wednesday.
Residents of the area near near Union Grove have reported seeing the melanistic mystery cats in the past, saying they sometimes come out looking for food. Harmes says he will undergo a series of rabies shots because of the attack.
Marshall County is a county of the U.S. state of Alabama, and is included in the Huntsville-Decatur Combined Statistical Area. Its name is in honor of John Marshall, famous Chief Justice of the United States. As of 2000 the population was 82,231. Its county seat is Guntersville. Marshall County is a dry county, with the exception of three cities within the county, Albertville, Arab, and Guntersville. Marshall County is home to numerous outdoor recreation areas including Lake Guntersville State Park, Cathedral Caverns State Park, and Bucks Pocket State Park.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 05:09 AM
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I personally have had two other panther experiences here in Alabama. One was just last year..I just hate to say anything and listen to all the people who dont believe it scoffing. The one last year was in broad daylight..scared 13 deer out of a powerline food plot and crossed the powerline 50 yards from me. IT WAS A COUGAR..around 90-110 pounds long tail..hunting deer.
You cant shoot the dang things but I definitely had it in my muzzleloader sights the entire time.
My wife came to pick me up as I had walked in over a mile to keep the wind in my favor thru my buddies property. 20 minutes after dark I was still in the stand and she was worried something had happened to me. I was just scared to come down to be honest!
To walk out I had to go right near where it went. Also, it had made a dang scream just as it got dark not 100 yards away...and another answered behind me in the same pine thicket deer bedding area the first one had come from. I had to go btween both to walk out. Im a pretty brave guy but with just a muzzleloader I was scared to death. I had a little AA battery flashlight..and I never was so worried coming out of the woods. When I could see her lights I had her point them towards me and ran like a girl to the dang truck.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 05:09 AM
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until someone shoots one of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating.if you say you saw one with your own eye and was not drunk. i believe you. i do think you had rather shoot a bear in ALABAMA than a big cat,it could get real expensive doing that
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Re: Big Cat
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until someone shoots on of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating. Isn't it against the law to shoot one....
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Tru-Talker]
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08/16/13 07:30 AM
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until someone shoots on of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating. Isn't it against the law to shoot one.... so thet say whoever they is, i found online that the dcnr says they are here i do remember reading that the dcnr says no they are not here, change 99 they are too there is a site that documents a lot of stuff on big cats here in our state it is called cougar net, it tells about puma that have left the florida panhandle spreading back here. i hope going to the deer stand i don't run up on one in the dark. no telling what it will smell if i do. gun or bow in hand i will defend my self as best i can:) yes i think you are correct beside if it attacks me then it is up to proof in court it might get stuck by some of my cold steel knives. in the process somebody shoot amongst us some body got to have relief
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 03:13 PM
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I know a fellow that lives in Sherwood Tn that has seen 1 on two different occasions. I don't believe this guy was mistaken and lying is out of the question. Our game warden here in Jackson will tell you straight up he watched one on the Jerico tract for several minutes.
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08/16/13 03:32 PM
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I would be interested to know if that was a male or not. If it's a female, there might be a breeding population there. So far as Florida Panthers, males can range light years from where they are born. The breeding females are more homebodies than the males and won't range as far. But you could put what I know about them in a thimble.
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08/16/13 03:44 PM
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I dont give a rats arse if anyone believes me or not but I have seen two in Alabama.One when I was sixteen.It was up on top of that mountain that overlooks the Waterworks land everyone was talking about on here a couple weeks ago.The other one was in Perry co.during bow season two years ago.I am one of the guys that Bamabart was refering to.I know what I saw and dont care if anyones believes me or not.
Psalm 27:1 The Lord is my light and my salvation,whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life;of whom shall I be afraid?
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/16/13 04:02 PM
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I grew up in Perry County on 160 acres in the middle of Talladega NF. We moved from there to Gadsden in 1990 but kept the place and were usually back down there every weekend especially during deer season. We fed the deer in two different spots, both of which could be seen out the window of my room. One spot was in the back yard on the edge of the woods and about 60 yards from the house, and the other was in the upper end of the green field that was planted in the bottom below the house, about 150 yards from the house. I would always wake up at least once in the middle of the night and shine a spotlight out the window and see what was on the corn piles. The deer got used to it over the years I guess and it didn't seem to bother them at all. Well, one night I shined the back yard at about 2am and there was a lone spike in the back yard. I watched him for a couple minutes and he kept looking up the hill to my left in the woods. I shined the ligh up there and could see eyes a few yards back in the bushes. After a couple minutes of me switching the light back and forth between the two, the spike kind of eased off into the woods to my right and out of the woods to my left came the cat. In full stalk mode, squatted all the way down, he crept right straitght across the yard and right in where the spike had gone.
The whole scenario lasted about 6 or 8 minutes, but the cat was in the yard, in the open, 40 or 50 yards from me for about a minute or so. There is no doubt what it was. It was as plain as the one in the Field and Stream article posted above.
We also heard one scream one night when we got home from dinner. We got out and shut the car doors and one screamed across the green field and up on the side of a big hill a couple hundred yards away. No doubt in my mind what that was either. Made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
I was also sitting in a ladder stand about 100 yards from where I saw the first cat one cold morning when 2 cubs walked right under my stand right at first light. I could hear the mother cat (I presume) walking parallel to them in some thick stuff behind me but I never saw her.
Another instance of a guy I took down there seeing a black one at 50 yards. He would not lie and said the cat was 7 or 8 feet long from nose to tail.
Never saw one track in the 20 years that I lived and hunted on this land. Can't explain that.
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Re: Big Cat
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08/16/13 04:45 PM
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I know a fellow that lives in Sherwood Tn that has seen 1 on two different occasions. I don't believe this guy was mistaken and lying is out of the question. Our game warden here in Jackson will tell you straight up he watched one on the Jerico tract for several minutes. I saw the first and only cat I've ever seen near Sherwood. May 14, 2011. It was about 7 am and good daylight and I was sitting on a big rock listening for a turkey to gobble. I watched a cat that looked to be about the same color as a deer with a winter coat slip out of a hollow and cross a little hardwood bench at a distance of 65-70 yards. It was open timber and I could see the whole cat, tail and all on 3 or 4 different occasions. I used to be in the group that said no way they're here some redneck would have already shot one if that was the case but I know what my eyes tell me I saw so either there are some big cats this far north or I had a hallucination one or the other.
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Re: Big Cat
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08/16/13 06:08 PM
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All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!? Probably the same reason most people don't rob a bank when their running a little short. It's against the law. Why would a person want to destroy one if their not in danger?
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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08/16/13 08:29 PM
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All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!? Probably the same reason most people don't rob a bank when their running a little short. It's against the law. Why would a person want to destroy one if their not in danger? this got me to looking into sightings reported and all so i brought up Google and typed in cougar sightings in Alabama , it brought up one article of a wildlife ecology professor at auburn and he said we have cougars bears wolf, they are protected. but moving north west. now panthers are from south Florida he did say we don't have black panthers here but that they are on the move, but it is possible to have them in our lifetime.so there you have it:)
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08/17/13 02:34 AM
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The panthers are like "cow tipping" Everyone always has a "friend" who did it or saw it. Neither exist in Bama. I saw a big brown cat in Troy AL in the late 80's. I was sitting in a tree stand bordering a big swamp when some dogs from a neighboring club came into the swamp chasing a deer. That thing came slinking out of the marsh and walked within 20 yards of my stand and crouched down in a logging road. It's ears were pinned back and it's long tail was flicking back and forth like it was agitated. It laid in that position for over an hour after the dogs left with me watching it through my rifle scope. I don't know if it was a mountain lion or a panther or if it was wild or an escaped pet or whatever. I don't care what you or anyone else says either, I know what I saw. Since that day I have logged thousands of hours in the woods and have never seen anything I thought to be a large cat or their tracks, and I have hunted all over this state.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: Big Cat
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08/17/13 03:26 AM
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All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!? If somebody was to shoot one, they'd be crazy for reporting it.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Big Cat
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08/17/13 03:30 AM
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All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!? I did not shoot cause I really did not want to shoot at 350yds and dang sure did not want to trail it. I have never seen another one. Our tractor mechanic claims to have seen on twice I vthe same area I saw that one, but it was 9 yrs before he said he saw one.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/17/13 03:41 AM
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A cougar is a mountain lion is a puma is a catamount. All the same thing, just slang words for mountain lion.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Big Cat
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08/17/13 04:24 AM
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they are native to the state.
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Re: Big Cat
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08/17/13 04:46 AM
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All of y'all that's have seen one why didn't you shoot!? you are kidding right? that is ILLEGAL..that is why! who wants to be arrested? their game rights to hunt taken away????
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: jlbuc10]
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08/17/13 04:48 AM
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It's closed season on mountain lions making them illegal to shoot. What if it were a panther, or puma, or jaguar, or cougar that you saw. I don't see anything about a closed season on those animals in Alabama? Plus if these animals were found in Alabama wouldn't they be considered non native and be a threat to local wildlife? I think I remember someone on here killing an axis deer in the wild in Alabama last year. There is no closed or open season for axis deer, and that guy didn't get arrested for killing the axis. are you ok? go look..mountain lions are also called cougars, panthers....try to make some sense ok?
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/17/13 06:43 AM
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I've always thought it was funny how we have a closed season on a animal that doesn't exist.Why don't they include buffalo,elk etc. What makes that cat different? Could it be they know more than they let on?
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Re: Big Cat
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08/17/13 06:50 AM
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I figured there would be some genetic differences. I they're all the same what makes the Florida panther endangered and mountain lions, or any other painter like cats not endangered? Florida panthers(Puma conculor coryi) are a subspecies of cougar(Puma conculor). So there are genetic differences there. Mountain lion, cougar, puma, panther are just all common names for a big tan cat.
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Re: Big Cat
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I've said this in another post, but I DID kill one as a young teenager in Dale County. My little terrier used to tree all kinds of stuff behind our house and, around the swamp I grew up next to. One night my parents were gone and she treed something right behind the house over a small creek that drained into the swamp. As usual, I grabbed my gun and a head lamp (grew up coon hunting), and headed out expecting to find a coon or possum. The tree was leaning at about 45 degrees and about 10 to 15 feet off the ground there was a huge cat. It had spots like a bobcat, but was significantly larger. It also had a long tail with rings around it. Being a kid and wanting to put my hands on it, I shot it. I took it home and put it in our deepfreezer. My dad would've killed me if he'd found out I killed that thing. The next day, a friend of mine came by to see it. He took it to his stepdad who was supposedly going to have it mounted. None of us had any idea what it was. We just knew it was way too big to be a bobcat and had tail that was as long as the cat itself. Later, as an adult, I saw a special on lions on tv. It was showing the juveniles have spots, and it was then obvious to me what I'd killed.
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Re: Big Cat
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08/17/13 08:10 AM
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I believe in the possibility of resident big cats in Alabama. That said, There used to be a guy at Collinsville Flea Market in the late '90's that had big cats for sale. Maybe somebody bought one and got sick of keeping it after awhile. There are just too many sightings to dismiss out of hand.
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Re: Big Cat
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loins and one got loose and killed he's wife . you just never know ???
I know what your saying. One of my loins almost killed my fiance the other night. She didnt back down though. lol
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Re: Big Cat
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loins and one got loose and killed he's wife . you just never know ???
I know what your saying. One of my loins almost killed my fiance the other night. She didnt back down though. lol so , i guess you're saying i'm full of sh!t . right ???
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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No I was making fun of u.
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Re: Big Cat
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Jeez! I was about say " pics or it didn't happen" well played sir. Chive On...
"Thank GOD the Government shut down is over so we can get back to the Government letdown." Phil Robertson
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/17/13 11:03 AM
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i think we have killed this cat issue,bu i remember as a kid huting skyline and wanting to see a deer so bad i almost shot a stump it was still dark , not first light yet and i thought i saw it move, then once it got more daylight i could make it out better then i saw it was a stump. didn't see any deer just squirrel , what i am saying your mind can play games on you by what you thought you saw:)i was 14 back then.i am 60 now. that was a day or two ago.
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Re: Big Cat
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I have seen a big cat. Actually, saw it twice about a year and a couple of miles apart. It was in the late 80's and both sightings were on the back side of the Scotch WMA, around Goat Hill the 1st time and near Phillips Crossing the next time. We were coon hunting both times and I am absolutely certain of what we saw. The 1st time, he just crouched down and slunk away watching his shadow ahead of him in the lights. The next time, he was in the ditch of the dirt road and he quickly turned his head from the lights and then sprung up the bank and ran away as we got close. It was a deep tan, almost chestnut and I can understand where in low light people would claim it was black.
I have not seen one since, or any indication of one. BUT, I am quite sure of what we saw then!
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Black cats are just like bigfoot if they were out there someone would have killed one already. to many guns and hunters in the south! Remember not everyone goes by the law thus some outlaw would have shot one by now. Many outlaws are smarter than to show it off. I firmly believe there are black cats out there. I know that the biologists say they don't exist but I know too many trustworthy people just like some of the folks on here that are not making it up and are not mistaken. They are here and some have been killed, but they don't go showin them off. It is just a matter of time before someone comes out with a good picture and/or a dead one. It will happen.
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Black cats are just like bigfoot if they were out there someone would have killed one already. to many guns and hunters in the south! Remember not everyone goes by the law thus some outlaw would have shot one by now. Many outlaws are smarter than to show it off. I firmly believe there are black cats out there. I know that the biologists say they don't exist but I know too many trustworthy people just like some of the folks on here that are not making it up and are not mistaken. They are here and some have been killed, but they don't go showin them off. It is just a matter of time before someone comes out with a good picture and/or a dead one. It will happen. My understanding is a solid black panther would have to be a black Leopard and the only way there is one of those running around Alabama is if he came from a zoo or circus. I believe there could be ,a few Mt. Lions or Fla. Panthers but I ain't buying the big jet black panther/leopard.
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Re: Big Cat
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One got loose a few years back, not 10 miles from where I live. Not sure if it was ever found, just recall the big black cat getting loose from it's pen. Happens more than most realize. EH Darby had 2 in his house over in Sheffield back in the 80's. Seen the pens in person, held regular mountain lions. Darby owned Southern Sash.
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There was a fellow up here that had 2 and got a heads up the state was coming for them. The pens where empty when they got there. That happen just over the state line on the river.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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[img:center]http:// [/img] My buddy sent me this pic this weekend. I said house cat but he showed the pic to a vet that said it was no way a house cat. He said the pic came from his club in Eutah AL.
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that is for sure a black panther. That tree in front of it is actually about 4" in diameter. The cat is so big it just makes it look like a blade of sage grass.
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Re: Big Cat
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I asked them what they had been smoking!! If you look hard it looks like it has a collar on just thought I would stir the pot.
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until someone shoots on of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating. Isn't it against the law to shoot one.... so thet say whoever they is, i found online that the dcnr says they are here i do remember reading that the dcnr says no they are not here, change 99 they are too there is a site that documents a lot of stuff on big cats here in our state it is called cougar net, it tells about puma that have left the florida panhandle spreading back here. i hope going to the deer stand i don't run up on one in the dark. no telling what it will smell if i do. gun or bow in hand i will defend my self as best i can:) yes i think you are correct beside if it attacks me then it is up to proof in court it might get stuck by some of my cold steel knives. in the process somebody shoot amongst us some body got to have relief Which brings me to another topic. Don't smoke crack.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: doekiller]
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08/19/13 04:25 PM
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until someone shoots on of these mystery lions ans a news reporter makes a story by it. i don't think we have wild big cats in Alabama i think the dcnr is right they do not live in these parts .even though i worked with a guy on red stone that swears he has em in his woods i asked how come your cows don't come up missing the big cat got to eat they don't get big by not eating. Isn't it against the law to shoot one.... so thet say whoever they is, i found online that the dcnr says they are here i do remember reading that the dcnr says no they are not here, change 99 they are too there is a site that documents a lot of stuff on big cats here in our state it is called cougar net, it tells about puma that have left the florida panhandle spreading back here. i hope going to the deer stand i don't run up on one in the dark. no telling what it will smell if i do. gun or bow in hand i will defend my self as best i can:) yes i think you are correct beside if it attacks me then it is up to proof in court it might get stuck by some of my cold steel knives. in the process somebody shoot amongst us some body got to have relief Which brings me to another topic. Don't smoke crack. It kills...
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
Confucius
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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08/19/13 04:30 PM
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Sure hope that vet is having a good laugh at that your buddy's expense. If not vet is a for real doofus.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: BrentM]
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08/20/13 02:10 AM
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The chances of a mountain lion being melanistic (black ) is 1 in 100,000....... So if there are five black ones in the whole state that means we should have a half million tan ones running around. Actually there has never been a documented case of a melanistic mountain lion. There are melanistic phases of leopards and jaguars, but not our native cougar/Florida Panther.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 03:12 AM
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I seen an Alien one time.... They have websites on Alien sightings too, so they must exist in all places too.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 03:36 AM
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I saw a wolverine on State docks road in Decatur in the early 90's. Wasn't sure what it was so came back to work and was looking at pictures of wolverines and badgers just to determine what I saw. I decided it was a wolverine and told the guys there I just saw a wolverine over on State Docks Rd.. Of course they laughed at me and I would have them. A couple days later there was a pic of it in the Decatur Daily where somebody had hit it. Article said they figured it got on a barge and decided to get of when it was docked at the river. Saw a bear cross I20 near Tuscaloosa once, and then heard on the radio about one getting run over in that area two day later. I ain't never seen nothing bigger than a bobcat. But I don't automatically dismiss people who say they do. I have heard some awfully creepy sounds in Bankhead at night.
"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer
"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight." Jeff Cooper
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: BDhunts]
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08/20/13 03:41 AM
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I seen an Alien one time.... They have websites on Alien sightings too, so they must exist in all places too. Show us on the doll where the aliens touched you
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: BrentM]
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08/20/13 03:49 AM
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I seen an Alien one time.... They have websites on Alien sightings too, so they must exist in all places too. Show us on the doll where the aliens touched you LOL!
"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: trlrdrdave]
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08/20/13 03:51 AM
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I have heard some awfully creepy sounds in Bankhead at night. That's just the aliens probing BDhunts.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: AU coonhunter]
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08/20/13 04:01 AM
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The chances of a mountain lion being melanistic (black ) is 1 in 100,000....... So if there are five black ones in the whole state that means we should have a half million tan ones running around. Actually there has never been a documented case of a melanistic mountain lion. There are melanistic phases of leopards and jaguars, but not our native cougar/Florida Panther. OK, so we're back to black Leopards and black Jaguars. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think either of the two are free range on this continent, regardless of color. I do think Barnum and Baily's train derailed in North Alabama.....bout a hundred years ago. BTW thanks for that info Coonhunter, been trying to convince some hillbillies for 30 years there ain't any , solid black ,long tail, panthers in these parts.
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"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 04:10 AM
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I am sure that dark brown, which is a color phase of mountain lions, could be easily mistaken at dusk and dawn.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 05:40 AM
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Yeah I've seen deer that looked black in low light. Same thing with the cats. For the record I wasn't trying to say we had black ones. The odds of a jaguar ( which is native to the southwestern United States) being black is 1 in 100,000. I would think the odds of a mountain lion or cougar being black would be the same. If there were as many black ones as people claim to have seen there would have to be a tan one laying behind every rock to even the numbers out. I still don't think that it's beyond the realm of possibility that there could be a big black cat roaming around though, any thing is possible in nature but the odds against it are pretty astronomical.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 06:28 AM
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Well, let the ribbing begin. I saw a black panther about 15 years ago crossing a power line. At first i thought it was black lab, then i saw its long tail.I watched it thru my scope. It got down wind of me and whirled and ran back up and across the powerline toward the coosa river. This was in Lincoln. When i got back to camp, i asked my dad and a buddy,"You'll never guess what i just saw"., my buddy said a panther. I told him of all the things in the world, he could have said, why did he say panther? He said, "Did you see one"? I said yes, he asked the color and i said black. He said, well there's 2 of them then, because 2 weeks ago i saw a tan one by the slough. Believe me or not, don't care. I know what i saw. If it would have been a cat or dog, it wouldn't have winded me, and turned and ran.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: blumsden]
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08/20/13 06:32 AM
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I know what i saw. If it would have been a cat or dog, it wouldn't have winded me, and turned and ran. Black Coyote would have.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 07:44 AM
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Blumsden nobody is saying you (or anyone else)didn't see a black cat! What AUCoonhunter is saying is that there has NEVER in history been documented a melanistic (black) color phase cougar!
Adopt the pace of nature, her secret is patience. Emerson
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: bill]
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08/20/13 08:08 AM
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I know what i saw. If it would have been a cat or dog, it wouldn't have winded me, and turned and ran. Black Coyote would have. Yes, your exactly right, but i've seen and shot a black coyote before. This had a long rectangular body, with a long slim tail.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: North40R]
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08/20/13 08:31 AM
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Blumsden nobody is saying you (or anyone else)didn't see a black cat! What AUCoonhunter is saying is that there has NEVER in history been documented a melanistic (black) color phase cougar! Exactly! Could it have been a melanistic phase jaguar or leopard that escaped captivity or was turned loose? There is always a possibility, but it could have also been a large feral cat. If there are these big black cats roaming the woods why don't somebody shoot one and leave it on the side of the road. The DNR can then examine it and noone will be at fault, and this discussion can come to a close. Simple as that.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: DThrash]
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08/20/13 10:00 AM
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I've been reading about these black cats on here since before I was a member .I told this story one time and it shut that thread down.Let's see if I can get a better result this time. A man who worked for Goodyear in Gadsden was a big coonhunter all throu the sixties.He and his sons treed and killed a big black cat in the flatwoods area of Etowha,St. Clair county in the mid to late sixties.They gave the carcass to a taxidermy shop in Gadsden.They cut off a front paw to show everybody .I personally saw and held the paw in my hand the morning after it was killed.I wish someone could check the archives at the Gadsden Times from that era to see if they could find a record of it. What are the odds. The guy that I referred to in my previous post on this thread who saw a cougar while coon hunting retired from good year. Do you know the name of the coon hunter who killed the cat? If so pm it to me and Ill see if I can get the story from my friend also.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: Hogwild]
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08/20/13 05:34 PM
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Bout 4 years ago my grandmother thaught her dog treed a black panther way up at the top of a pine tree. She got somebody to shoot it and it turned out to be the neighbors house cat
Parked in a holler, beneath the mountain moon light.
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: jlbuc10]
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08/20/13 06:00 PM
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All I've got to say is next time y'all see one shoot it and ill pay and lawyer fees or court costs it takes if for some reason they try to take you hunting rights away. I 100% will kill one of these bigs cats if I ever see one. i aint killing nothing just to prove a point .
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Re: Big Cat
[Re: jlbuc10]
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08/20/13 08:12 PM
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In that case the next one I see is dead
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Parked in a holler, beneath the mountain moon light.
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