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Any intetrest? #637083
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I remember last year Alabama Whitetail records were going to make a drive to measure and record big deer from each county. I think the only thing I ever saw for Jackson etc was a scorer a day or so at Gander mtn with not much interest.What if we had a meet and greet with a scorer or two there and get some deer entered. I would enjoy looking at some big old local bucks and putting faces with some names.Any thoughts?

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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637116
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None of my deer are gonna make any "records", but I would like to have them officially measured, just so I can't lie about their size.


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637121
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I think they have to be 130 or maybe 140 to get in that.


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637136
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Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books.

I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought.

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637159
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115 for State with bow. I've got one in the book with a bow. I've got a 12 point that would probably make book with a bow, but haven't entered it, yet. If it was relatively close, I'd be interested.

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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ] #637183
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books.

I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought.


you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637186
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Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637188
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The records the DCNR are doing I think is the one you're talkin' about. Matt Brock is an offical scorer. May be others closer, but I'm unsure.
Bucks must NET 140" typ, don't sound like much , but net 140 is a pretty tall order.
The guys at Harbin Automotive in Scottsboro were kicking around the idea of a scoring session, haven't heard anything on it in a while though.



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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: demp17] #637192
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Originally Posted By: demp17
Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.



There you go again. laugh
NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks.



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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: truedouble] #637200
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Originally Posted By: truedouble
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books.

I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought.


you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL

Yep, the locals know anyway.



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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637201
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: demp17
Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.



There you go again. laugh
NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks.



The State book doesn't count deductions.


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: N2TRKYS] #637206
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: demp17
Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.



There you go again. laugh
NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks.



The State book doesn't count deductions.

The new record system State DCNR just started does.
The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637209
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: demp17
Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.



There you go again. laugh
NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks.



The State book doesn't count deductions.

The new record system State DCNR just started does.
The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only.


The the one DCNR was trying to put together.


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637211
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What does a deer have to gross in order to make the Alabama whitetail records?


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: 2Dogs] #637225
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: demp17
Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.



There you go again. laugh
NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks.



The State book doesn't count deductions.

The new record system State DCNR just started does.
The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only.



Did they start their own system or adopt P&Y and B&C?


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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: Bowhunter84] #637246
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Originally Posted By: Bowhunter84
What does a deer have to gross in order to make the Alabama whitetail records?


I think 140, typical

Re: Any intetrest? [Re: N2TRKYS] #637261
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
[quote=demp17]Basically anything 2Dogs has shot in the past 20 years would make it, he would be the title holder for most entries.


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There you go again. laugh
NOT! Mine have too much in the minus catagory. It's B&C with deductions, so it rewards clean racks.



The State book doesn't count deductions.

The new record system State DCNR just started does.
The "book" that's been around about 25 years or so, Alabama Whitetail Records does not, goes by gross only.



Did they start their own system or adopt P&Y and B&C?

If you're talking the new State DCNR records, pretty sure it's P&Y/B&C, 140" net typ. for a gun kill.

The old Alabama Whitetail Record book that's been around for years is 150" gross for gun kills.

Two totaly different things.



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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637458
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We had a scoring session in Tanner a couple of weeks with hardly any participation. If you guys can gain enough interest and justify a couple of us spending a few hours somewhere scoring deer we can make it happen.

Entry requirements are NET 140 typical, 165 non-typical according to B&C scoring system. Like 2Dogs said NET 140 is a tall order, but there are dozens of them hanging on walls in north AL that have never been scored.

RAWD is not to be confused with Dennis Campbell's system North American White-tailed Records, which was the previous AL book. RAWD entry requirements are higher, and coordinated through AL WFF Division.

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2Dogs collection could keep a couple folks busy for at least 1/2 a day!
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Re: Any intetrest? [Re: ridgestalker] #637506
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I've had the pleasure of scoring a couple of them. He needs to bring them all!

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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
I've had the pleasure of scoring a couple of them. He needs to bring them all!

You pencil whipped those in the minus column. Pretty humbling to have 2 gross 160's and they won't net 140". I've got a couple smaller, "prettier" ones that would be strong prospects to net 140 . Don't seem right, nets are for fishin'. laugh



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Wow I thought the big 160 you killed a few years ago would net 140 all day. I wish there would be enough interest for MB to come I bet there are more net 140 an 150s than most think.


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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
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I've had the pleasure of scoring a couple of them. He needs to bring them all!

You pencil whipped those in the minus column. Pretty humbling to have 2 gross 160's and they won't net 140". I've got a couple smaller, "prettier" ones that would be strong prospects to net 140 . Don't seem right, nets are for fishin'. laugh


Hey, remember I have quite a few on my own wall that were pencil-whipped to death. I killed a gross 172" that nets 131" typical. That's why I took the non-typical score.... laugh

You need to let me have a try at those typicals.

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I'd let Matt scope any buck I have

I wouldn't let AWR score my ass......


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I wouldn't let AWR score my ass......


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I'd be good for 3 I bet we could gather up at least a dozen.


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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: truedouble
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books.

I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought.


you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL

Yep, the locals know anyway.


They dont actually or I WOULD have a problem! we sneak them out and mums the word.

Noone in the area other then the few of us that hunt together know. We are VERY secretive about our deer...and protective.

At the processors and in town EVERYONE thinks I kill my big bucks in Cherokee...cause thats what I tell them. I have tons of people ask me where in Cherokee I hunt.

By the way..Ive NEVER even been to Cherokee.

To all you from Cherokee...sorry for all the poaching trespassers Ive sent your way!

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Originally Posted By: truedouble
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Ive shot more then a few big bucks and have had them measured and scored because my taxidermist likes to measure them, but Im not into any record books.

I considered taking my 170 I shot last season to the deer expo..but my friends didnt want people to know where it came from or we would be fighting off trespassers all year they thought.


you don't have to tell people where it was shot, just the county it was killed in. That's a big area to poach...LOL

Yep, the locals know anyway.


They dont actually or I WOULD have a problem! we sneak them out and mums the word.

Noone in the area other then the few of us that hunt together know. We are VERY secretive about our deer...and protective.

At the processors and in town EVERYONE thinks I kill my big bucks in Cherokee...cause thats what I tell them. I have tons of people ask me where in Cherokee I hunt.

By the way..Ive NEVER even been to Cherokee.

To all you from Cherokee...sorry for all the poaching trespassers Ive sent your way!


I'll bet some of the locals knew, if they didn't they do now.



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If they do they dont come around . My land doesnt look like much from the road anyway. I keep it real thick along the road and just have 2 trails with gates...one you really cant even see.

Once you get in around 100-200 yards..then things start to change. It has the nice fields, road sysytem , persimmion trees,water chestnut and oaks, nice hardwoods along the creek and food plots.
But from the road it looks just like an inpenetrable thicket. It is also a dead end road...and my tenats live there and let me know of suspicious vehicles. Plus..I put a trail cam that photos all vehicles coming down the road out.
Really noone drives down it but the tenants..and they dont hunt.

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
If they do they dont come around . My land doesnt look like much from the road anyway. I keep it real thick along the road and just have 2 trails with gates...one you really cant even see.

Once you get in around 100-200 yards..then things start to change. It has the nice fields, road sysytem , persimmion trees,water chestnut and oaks, nice hardwoods along the creek and food plots.
But from the road it looks just like an inpenetrable thicket. It is also a dead end road...and my tenats live there and let me know of suspicious vehicles. Plus..I put a trail cam that photos all vehicles coming down the road out.
Really noone drives down it but the tenants..and they dont hunt.


That is the way our new lease looks like. Has a substantial amount of road frontage, mile or so, and one way in.

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