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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: Clem] #62881
12/23/10 10:26 PM
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Here Kitty Kitty

Pet this then:



Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: 49er] #62882
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How about this guy. He's in a cage.

Is he wild??


Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: 49er] #62883
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Wild or free???


Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: 49er] #62884
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Gee, we can do this too.


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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62886
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If somebody wants to buy a trophy in a pen, that's fine by me. However, I wish there were tagging laws in place that required a big friggin hole to be drilled in both antlers before the head could be released into the public. Place a metal tag (like Ohio's) through the holes and we would all know where these trophies came from. I couldn't care less about how someone wants to spend their money, but these bucks shouldn't be allowed to be passed off as free ranging as they sometimes are. Just my two cents. CD.

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: 49er] #62887
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Sometimes cages just make them wilder:


Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62919
12/24/10 06:16 AM
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They are no different at all other than most now are the a product of artificial insemination, bottle fed as fawns, under veterinarian care, around human contact daily. No difference at all.

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: 49er] #62933
12/24/10 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Clem,

Quote:
If they can't escape and roam freely, they're not wild. They're caged.

Period.


Would you walk in the cage and pet a leopard at the zoo?



Good point!

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62940
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Most people manage "their" deer herd by utilizing a buffer zone of several thousand acres around them. A fence is nothing more than a buffer zone between land owners. If the deer have alot of human contact...they will become less wild than free ranging deer. If they do not have a lot of human contact...they are wild as ever!!!!

Therefore, the wild-or-not deer herd is totally up to the landowner.

I've been going to a fenced lodge in Wilcox County for years and love it!!!

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62948
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I'm neutral on the subject. As long as it's legal, I don't give a rat's ass what someone else does.
Would I go as a guest if I was invited? Hell ya, I love shooting deer.


Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.

I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.

Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.

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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62950
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I'd go.

Many of the people tha have posted in this thread have NEVER visited a high-fence hunting property. They also have no idea as to the esccape behaviors of whitetail deer.

But, that's fine.
It is not my place to judge them.

The fences are built more to keep 'unwanteds' out than anything else.

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62953
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High fence hunting is for Pu$$ies..... Or shall I say High Fence killing since it's actually NOT hunting...

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: Butchman205] #62958
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It makes a huge difference as to what size place is being fenced in and what the particular set up is like. Thousands of acres enclosed by just one outside perimeter fence; deer that haven't been shipped in from deer farms; and aren't totally dependent on humans for all their food; I'd agree the presence of a high fence around the place probably makes little difference.

That said, most of these places are not that benign. The deer are semi-domesticated, totally dependent on humans for survival, raised like cattle, and enclosed in a small enough area that John J. Gottrocks the III will be pretty much assured a shot after his check clears.

I don't advocate it being made illegal and if it floats your boat knock yourself out. I just take issue with it being called hunting. We used to occasional slaughter a hog on my grandfathers farm but we didn't call it a hunting trip.

Not my cup of tea but if I ever get the urge to do something like this I guess I'll just go shoot one of dads cows. About the same challenge most of these places present.


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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: Clem] #62967
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Clem says he ain't wild. You say you wouldn't pet him. Is he wild or not??


No he isn't wild. You seem to be under the impression that wild is an all or nothing deal. Obviously you are under the impression if you can't hold an animal in your lap and pet it then it's totally wild. Don't know where you got that definition of tame vs wild but I gotta tell you it is just about the most sub imbecilic, moronic, complete and utter dumb@$$ definition of what is or isn't wild that I have ever heard anyone espouse. And you are making yourself look laughably bad by supporting it in a public forum. There are many degrees of domestication or "tameness" with animals. The bulls in my fathers pasture are domesticated animals but since I doubt any would tolerate me throwing a saddle over their backs that makes them "wild" in your book. LOL!

Where did you learn all you know about animals? Romper Room? Sesame Street? LOL! Lord have mercy.


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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #62978
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Another year, same thread and high fenced deer still ain't hunting.

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: Rebelman] #63001
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman
Another year, same thread and high fenced deer still ain't hunting.



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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: Todd1700] #63002
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Todd,
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... Don't know where you got that definition of tame vs wild but I gotta tell you it is just about the most sub imbecilic, moronic, complete and utter dumb@$$ definition of what is or isn't wild that I have ever heard anyone espouse.


I didn't. Those are your words.

Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: 49er] #63041
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I didn't. Those are your words.


So you aren't the one who implied that not being able to pet a leopard at the zoo established it as a truely "wild" animal?


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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: Todd1700] #63048
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Originally Posted By: Todd1700
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I didn't. Those are your words.


So you aren't the one who implied that not being able to pet a leopard at the zoo established it as a truely "wild" animal?


Trust me, I hate to stand up for 49r's position but I believe his point is that just because it has a "cage" around it, does not make it a "tame" animal as some on here believe "high fenced" deer are. I've been in plenty of high fences and most deer are as wild as any outside of the fence. Your point that it all depends on how big a fence and how the animals were grown, is the most valid point.


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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting [Re: mackdaddy] #63066
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Wild to me does not necessarily indicate tame or maliciously aggressive.

Wild, IMO, means free-ranging. A hog in a cage at the barn can eat you or nuzzle. But it isn't wild. It's captive.

If you want to shoot animals inside a fence that cannot escape, knock yourself out. Whether it's 40 acres or 4,000, if they are unable to get outside of that fence and roam freely then they are captive. They're not free-ranging.

But unless anything changes, it's legal to do so. Have at it.


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