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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: mackdaddy]
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12/23/10 05:51 PM
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A buddy of mine up in Selma used to be a timber runner. He told me he was walkin a property after Ivan came through that bordered a high fenced property. A large tree fell across the fence and crushed the fence under it. It didn't lay the fence over. There was the widest trail he had ever seen goin across there. I personally have never hunted a high fence nor will I ever. I believe in fair chase and in my opinion, a few thousand acre enclosure is no different from a cage. If you do happen to kill a Boone & Crockett buck inside one, you wouldn't be able to get him in the books.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: mackdaddy]
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12/23/10 06:49 PM
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If they can't escape and roam freely, they're not wild. They're caged.
Period.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: Clem]
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12/23/10 07:00 PM
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Clem, If they can't escape and roam freely, they're not wild. They're caged.
Period. Would you walk in the cage and pet a leopard at the zoo?
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: mackdaddy]
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12/23/10 07:02 PM
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All of the fenced in areas I've seen have been small tracts. They do feed the deer on a regular basis. They would have to I would think. As for comparing high fence hunting to a cage, I have too much love and respect of the Whitetail Deer to ever hunt them out of an enclosure. I can't justify killing a deer like that. In my mind, it's like they are in a cage. If I screw up on a mature buck, I know he's not going anywhere if he is in a high fence, therefore I can easily find him again and pattern him again if he changes his patterns. If I screw up on one in a unrestricted area, who's to say that deer wont move out of the area. More than likely he wouldn't, but I am much more inclined not to screw up hunting free range bucks than high fenced ones. That's one of the reasons why I like to hunt public land. It presents a challenge. In my opinion, the greatest hunting challenge in Alabama is to harvest a MATURE whitetail buck. They are the smartest animal in the woods. If you cage em up in a high fence, you might as well hunt cattle in a pasture. Disagree with me all you want to, you can't change my mind. I will preach this opinion of mine until the day I die as if it were a quote from the Bible itself.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: slippinlipjr]
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12/23/10 07:09 PM
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In my opinion, the greatest hunting challenge in Alabama is to harvest a MATURE whitetail buck. They are the smartest animal in the woods. Does putting a fence around the property really change that?? You may not be giving them as much credit as they are actually due.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: 49er]
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12/23/10 07:23 PM
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It does change that because he doesn't have a chance to escape and move somewheres else. If you have a buck you can't kill that is in a high fence, and you knew he was a hoss, and you knew you had him and he wasn't going anywhere, what would you do? Most people would run dogs. There's nothing wrong with that, but in a high fence? Come on. Most people would get greedy. You can only imagine what those people would do. Think of fish in an enclosed net. Sooner or later, as the net gets smaller, you will get the fish. You have enough people, you can push deer out of anywhere. The buck doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell. But, the fish can jump out of a net. There are plenty of holes deer can go under in some high fenced areas. I've seen some bucks can easily get under.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: 49er]
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12/23/10 07:39 PM
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BowtechDan
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I'd never hunt one. I'd rather shoot a doe with a bow on a WMA that I've scouted and found my own spot more than some manipulated deer zoo being told where to go and sit. That's just me.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: mackdaddy]
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12/23/10 07:42 PM
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any military reservation is fenced on all sides period. If you have ever hunted one you would know they are tough to hunt based on pressure. Redstone Arsenal isn't fenced on all sides. FT Bragg, NC wasn't. Ft Dix, NJ wasn't. Warner-Robbins AFB, GA isn't.
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
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12/23/10 07:48 PM
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Would you walk in the cage and pet a leopard at the zoo? No, but it would be pretty easy to drill his ass with my rifle as he lay there in the pen wouldn't it?
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Re: HIgh Fence Hunting
[Re: Todd1700]
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12/23/10 09:08 PM
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Would you walk in the cage and pet a leopard at the zoo? No, but it would be pretty easy to drill his ass with my rifle as he lay there in the pen wouldn't it? Didn't say anything about shooting him. Clem says he ain't wild. You say you wouldn't pet him. Is he wild or not??
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