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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591950
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let hunter choice be what it is i can use a big rock if i want too.


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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591952
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besides most crossbow is more of a bow than what he uses, hint key word crossbow, it don't say vertical bow.


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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Clem] #591954
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Originally Posted By: Clem
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Lol. Because it is law. If you don't like it, dont hunt. Simple as that. Quote all the garbage you like, it is what it is. Buy a bow or leave the woods to me.


Actually, it's not a law.



Actually, it is a "rule that is not a rule" according to current law, and it is null and void:

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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591955
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most ethical archers don't shoot past 40 yard due too all the tree limbs and such in the way.

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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591967
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funny part is he tinkered with crossbow for 15 years, i have owned mine for two year and i for a fact know there limits, more over the compound bows.if he canonly meke a fist size group at 150 he needs to get some real arrows instead of game getters, and use a rest to get steady, most crossbow will shot a lot better than that. mine shoots 1/4" group at 20 yards. i have not shot it at 150 yard as i don't have a scope that will let me shoot that far. maybe it is time to buy a hha OPTIMIZER. THEN I CAN ACURATELY CONNECT AT THAT DISTANCE.normally i won't shoot an arrow in the woods past 40 yards out of respect for the deer that you might hit a limb a deflecting the arrow and wounding the deer. same as for compounds can happen.


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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591968
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obviously he does not hunt here in the great state of ALABAMA, WHERE WE HAVE HUNTER CHOICE. NO ONe TO TELL US WHAT TO USE, AND WHAT TO WEAR. BULL CRAP ONe THAT IDOT.

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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591973
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HE WOULD COMPLAIN IF YOU HUNG HIM WITH A NEW GRASS ROPE.


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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591974
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he needs to do research before he writes trash. learn what you are talking about before you prove you are a fool.

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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591975
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none of my crossbow shoot bullets like a rifle they don't go bang.and depending on where you hit the deer they don't bang flop, but they won't go far.

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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #591976
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i would like to ask him what does foc means to archery.:)


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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Blackhawk] #592346
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Archery only season is nothing more than one more form of gun control.

Legislators and city councilmen expect cops to pacify the liberals by keeping you from being armed with guns in most situations where you need them the most.

Advisory Board members expect our game wardens to keep you from being armed with guns in order to pacify the liberal-minded bow hunters who want the woods to themselves and think that it's a legitimate function of government.

Gun control is gun control.

Some label it under public safety, some call it for "conservation".

The end result is a loss of freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: 49er] #592368
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Archery only season is nothing more than one more form of gun control.

Legislators and city councilmen expect cops to pacify the liberals by keeping you from being armed with guns in most situations where you need them the most.

Advisory Board members expect our game wardens to keep you from being armed with guns in order to pacify the liberal-minded bow hunters who want the woods to themselves and think that it's a legitimate function of government.

Gun control is gun control.

Some label it under public safety, some call it for "conservation".

The end result is a loss of freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.


What are you talking about? I carry my pistol while bow hunting public land.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: N2TRKYS] #592378
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Try hunting with your pistol while you're there.

Let us know how that works out for you.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: 49er] #592384
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Try hunting with your pistol while you're there.

Let us know how that works out for you.


When it's gun season i will. With that logic, deer season should be in year around.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: N2TRKYS] #592398
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: 49er
Try hunting with your pistol while you're there.

Let us know how that works out for you.


When it's gun season i will. With that logic, deer season should be in year around.


You're switching subjects now... but I certainly think deer season should be open year round in areas where crop depredation permits allow scores of deer to be killed illegally and then wasted instead of leaving the season open.

That's what the law allows, btw:

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Section 9-11-240
Opening of season for hunting, etc., of female deer and unantlered male deer.

Any law of the State of Alabama to the contrary notwithstanding, the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources is hereby authorized to open a season in any county, area or section of the state for the hunting, taking, capturing and killing of female deer or unantlered male deer by a duly promulgated regulation when, in his best judgment, he deems it necessary for biological reasons or because of crop damage to open the season on such deer, provided this meets with the approval of the landowner or leaseholder.

(Acts 1966, Ex. Sess., No. 180, p. 213, § 1.)


See how the DCNR takes everything off into left field??

They go from being allowed to leave seasons open for purposes other than conservation and perpetuation of the species to closing the season and then allowing baiting, trapping and hunting at night if you're willing to lie and use their permit.

That's how liberals interpret and twist the law and our constitutions.

With that logic, they think they are free to do anything... like setting bow only seasons just to pacify people like you.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #592908
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49er,

I can't believe I am going to do this but what the heck. If it were up to you the season would be any weapon and year round. And a few years later when there were no deer and turkey left, you would blame it on the gov. And please don't say it can't happen. Just look back at all the hard work conservation orgs did to reintroduce the elk, deer, turkey, etc.....where they had been whipped out. And that all happened because of unregulated hunting. Oh Snap, I just realized that is exactly what you want!

And please understand that you calling "bow only season" "gun control" is taking it too far. And since gun hunters kill on avg around 7 times as many deer as bow hunters do, your idea just might require an adjustment in the season length or bag limits. But, I am guessing you don't care about that. You just want to slam the gov and have everything your way reqardless of the outcome.

So please cut and paste some more.


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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: ElkHunter] #592936
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Originally Posted By: ElkHunter
49er,

I can't believe I am going to do this but what the heck. If it were up to you the season would be any weapon and year round.

[My answers are this color.]

You want cut and paste, so here it is ... the lawful reasons I have consistently stated seasons are to be set:

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(1) To protect, conserve, and increase the wildlife of the state and to administer all laws relating to wildlife and the protection, conservation, and increase thereof.


Quote:
(7) To close the season of any species of game in any county or area when, upon a survey by the department, it is found necessary to the conservation and perpetuation of such species and to reopen such closed season when it is deemed advisable.


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Any law of the State of Alabama to the contrary notwithstanding, the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources is hereby authorized to open a season in any county, area or section of the state for the hunting, taking, capturing and killing of female deer or unantlered male deer by a duly promulgated regulation when, in his best judgment, he deems it necessary for biological reasons or because of crop damage to open the season on such deer, provided this meets with the approval of the landowner or leaseholder



And a few years later when there were no deer and turkey left, you would blame it on the gov. And please don't say it can't happen. Just look back at all the hard work conservation orgs did to reintroduce the elk, deer, turkey, etc.....where they had been whipped out. And that all happened because of unregulated hunting. Oh Snap, I just realized that is exactly what you want!


No, that's what you would like to make others think I want in an effort to divert attention away from your desire to use government to protect your own personal preferences... that's what liberals do.

And please understand that you calling "bow only season" "gun control" is taking it too far.

What do you call it?


And since gun hunters kill on avg around 7 times as many deer as bow hunters do, your idea just might require an adjustment in the season length or bag limits.

That would be fine. That's the proper purpose of setting seasons and bag limits... to insure the perpetuation of the species.

But, I am guessing you don't care about that. You just want to slam the gov and have everything your way reqardless of the outcome.

Guess again, Barry. I believe you know better.

So please cut and paste some more.

I did. Now, show us your source of statutory authority to back up setting bow only seasons just because people like you want them.

You don't have to cut and paste, just tell me where to look in the law and I'll find it if it's there.





Some people need me to cut and paste stuff to remind them, and I don't mind doing it for you Barry.

Here's some pretty good stuff for you to remember:

Constitution of Alabama 1901
Quote:
SECTION 35

Objective of government.
That the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression.


I didn't write it, but I like it.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #592952
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back away from that crack pipe Eddie.......


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: BhamFred] #592957
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I'm not on crack Troy.

I was working six and seven days a week when all this crap happened. Now I've got time to pay attention.

I want my freedom and liberty back.

Re: Crossbows in bow season? [Re: Ponderosa] #592985
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IF you recall I was neck deep in the crossbow fight, had DCNR watching me and semi veiled threats aimed at me.

bow season is not, in any way, gun control.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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