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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#57171
12/12/10 01:37 PM
12/12/10 01:37 PM
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BOAZ
Droptyne
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I hunt 1400 acres with four other people.We shoot two does per family every year or try to.When the rut starts we see lots of bucks. I am convinced they come from other properties where they slaughter there does every year. No Does No Bucks.Just my opinion.
Live every day like it is your last.
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#58845
12/14/10 11:25 PM
12/14/10 11:25 PM
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calera
nolehunter74
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calera
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do you hunt in shelby county and if so what club
go noles
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: Droptyne]
#59200
12/15/10 03:36 PM
12/15/10 03:36 PM
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McCalla,al
marcus1
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10 point
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McCalla,al
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I am convinced they come from other properties where they slaughter there does every year. No Does No Bucks.Just my opinion. x2
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#59222
12/15/10 04:10 PM
12/15/10 04:10 PM
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Posts: 3,865
Shelby County
BassCat
10 point
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10 point
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Shelby County
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First time in this club. We have been mowing them down. 35 does and 3 8 points killed so far. A few other does shot but not found. Can't see a buck to save my life nor can my friend. I am sure the hunting pressure is mostly the reason. Well see if it makes the bucks move more to look for a doe during rut.
If you claim to be a Christian then why do you act like the devil? You will be known by the fruit you bear!
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#59289
12/15/10 05:52 PM
12/15/10 05:52 PM
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Colbert County
Teacher One
14 point
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14 point
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Colbert County
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I never shoot my does, there are enough neighboring landowners that do this for me. I usually wait until the last two weeks of season and then start to look for horns. My does have grown accustomed to knowing I am around and when the bucks come calling, the does bring them along. I hunt land that is really pressured by surrounding clubs, both being dog hunting clubs, and I wait for dog season to go out. That is when the bucks start to move again. I don't know the downfall of shooting does, but I do know the pitfalls of running dogs!
I can't stand a thief.
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#59497
12/15/10 09:57 PM
12/15/10 09:57 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
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Round ‘bout there
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So you'd rather see 30 or 40 deer and kill a 110-class 6-point as opposed to seeing six and one of those is a 150-class 10 point?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: Clem]
#59528
12/16/10 03:21 AM
12/16/10 03:21 AM
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Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
Booner
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Booner
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Thomasville, AL
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So you'd rather see 30 or 40 deer and kill a 110-class 6-point as opposed to seeing six and one of those is a 150-class 10 point?
Where is that guarantee that if you shoot all the does you can that you will have 150-inch, 10 pt bucks roaming your proerty to just shoot at will????? THAT is the propaganda that was used to help change the State of Mind of the older AL deer hunters. It was/is a fallacy and has been disproved numerous times over. There is a definite balance and a need for doe harvest. But, it is WAY over-rated as a Big Buck cure-all! I have several deer on my wall that were killed during the heyday of deer populations here in SW AL. And I DO miss seeing 15-25 deer an afternoon....even if the majority were does. The days hunted to mature bucks harvested ratio is still about the same. Just a WHOLE lot less sightings of deer in the time between the harvests.
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: Clem]
#59644
12/16/10 10:10 AM
12/16/10 10:10 AM
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McCalla,al
marcus1
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10 point
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So you'd rather see 30 or 40 deer and kill a 110-class 6-point as opposed to seeing six and one of those is a 150-class 10 point?
yes,i would.cause them antlers taste the same.. don't get me wrong i like see the big bucks,but that's not what hunting is all about to me.. all the luck in the world to the trophy hunter..just don't impose it on me..i'll shot a doe before a buck any day of the week...
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: desertdog]
#59757
12/16/10 01:44 PM
12/16/10 01:44 PM
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Posts: 2,731
Hayden, Alabama
HHSyelper
10 point
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10 point
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Hayden, Alabama
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You can let all the does walk, or you can kill all of the ones you see, but neither will help you grow larger bucks. Only letting little ones go will help, and I haven't seen many people in Alabama that will truly let young deer walk. Maybe for a while, but usually go back to killing, because killing is the only way a lot of people gauge their success. Just my two cents!
Last edited by HHSyelper; 12/16/10 01:46 PM.
To God Be The Glory!
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#59764
12/16/10 01:55 PM
12/16/10 01:55 PM
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Posts: 9,004
Colbert County
Teacher One
14 point
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14 point
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I grew up in Colbert County and I remember going hunting with my dad for many years and never ever seeing a deer. This was in the late 60's and early 70's. I was taught that if you killed a doe you were one of the ones whom a special place in Satan's domain was reserved for. Those old traditions still hold true to my dad and the old timers who helped establish the herd we have today in North Alabama. Without restraint and foresight to let the does walk, we would still be squirrel and rabbit hunting instead of chasing deer. I just can't shoot the mammas like some people can. To me the ultimate test of a hunter's ability is to consistently kill mature bucks every year. A person cannot consistently kill mature deer and kill off the does at the same time. My daddy always said "Wherever you have women, there will always be a few old men hanging around". Just my two cents worth.
I can't stand a thief.
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: Teacher One]
#59775
12/16/10 02:24 PM
12/16/10 02:24 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
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Round ‘bout there
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A person cannot consistently kill mature deer and kill off the does at the same time. Sure you can. It happens in a lot of places where doe management is pretty strong and intense, the herd population isn't running rampant in great numbers and young bucks are allowed to walk. Just allowing little bucks to get older is not the only factor in management. I'd say that may be the key or a key, but it's not the only one among several that should be used.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: Clem]
#59826
12/16/10 04:01 PM
12/16/10 04:01 PM
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Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
Booner
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Booner
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Thomasville, AL
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Sure you can. It happens in a lot of places where doe management is pretty strong and intense, the herd population isn't running rampant in great numbers and young bucks are allowed to walk. Clem, For the sake of debate, can you cite me a few REAL LIFE examples of properties here in AL with intense doe harvest and successful mature buck harvest on a regular basis? I would then like for you to tell me the property size, hunter/acre ratio and doe and buck per sq. mi harvested. I think that you will be surprised when you start looking. Extreme doe harvest and maintaining a low deer density are not only over-rated; but misrepresented statistically! Just my opinion, but it is formed after years of paying close attention to data.
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: bloodtrail]
#59838
12/16/10 04:50 PM
12/16/10 04:50 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,948
Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
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Round ‘bout there
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What do you consider to be a mature buck and a regular basis?
I'm not saying every buck will become a 150-class. If someone's satisfied with shooting basket-rack 6s and a "great" 130-class 8-point, then yeah ... more could be done and it involves management.
When you settle for what you have, you'll always have what you settle for.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: Teacher One]
#59851
12/16/10 05:35 PM
12/16/10 05:35 PM
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Posts: 26,411
Helena
3toe
Talking Turkey
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Talking Turkey
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Helena
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I grew up in Colbert County and I remember going hunting with my dad for many years and never ever seeing a deer. This was in the late 60's and early 70's. I was taught that if you killed a doe you were one of the ones whom a special place in Satan's domain was reserved for. Those old traditions still hold true to my dad and the old timers who helped establish the herd we have today in North Alabama. Without restraint and foresight to let the does walk, we would still be squirrel and rabbit hunting instead of chasing deer. I just can't shoot the mammas like some people can. To me the ultimate test of a hunter's ability is to consistently kill mature bucks every year. A person cannot consistently kill mature deer and kill off the does at the same time. My daddy always said "Wherever you have women, there will always be a few old men hanging around". Just my two cents worth. I remember those days. A very good example of the two extremes of deer hunting. Myself, I love to eat a good smoked deer tenderloin. I hunt to eat it, not to hang it on the wall and admire it. I hunt family owned land so I do not have to worry with club rules. I shoot the first 2 or 3 deer I can get in the crosshairs unless they are buttons or spotted. Once I have enough in the freezer, I will hunt for horns just for the sport. We have old bucks on our property but to be honest my impact on the doe's/bucks is not great enough to sway a herd one way of the other. The other extreme is people hunt for the challenge of finding that record buck. That's ok too. Thats the sport in it and perfectly fine. To each his own, just don't bad mouth either side as they are content and happy in the way they hunt.
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Re: Doe Control
[Re: 3toe]
#59877
12/16/10 06:37 PM
12/16/10 06:37 PM
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Posts: 3,149
McCalla,al
marcus1
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10 point
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McCalla,al
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same thing i said.you just said it better...  x2 I remember those days. A very good example of the two extremes of deer hunting. Myself, I love to eat a good smoked deer tenderloin. I hunt to eat it, not to hang it on the wall and admire it. I hunt family owned land so I do not have to worry with club rules. I shoot the first 2 or 3 deer I can get in the crosshairs unless they are buttons or spotted. Once I have enough in the freezer, I will hunt for horns just for the sport. We have old bucks on our property but to be honest my impact on the doe's/bucks is not great enough to sway a herd one way of the other. The other extreme is people hunt for the challenge of finding that record buck. That's ok too. Thats the sport in it and perfectly fine. To each his own, just don't bad mouth either side as they are content and happy in the way they hunt.
Last edited by marcus1; 12/16/10 06:39 PM.
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