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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: 2Dogs] #552128
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs

IMO,They should make it legal or illegal and quit playing.


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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: gobbler] #552175
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Dumb question: does this pertain just to deer or to turkey hunting also

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: G/H] #552199
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deer and hogs


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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: G/H] #552300
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Originally Posted By: G/H
Dumb question: does this pertain just to deer or to turkey hunting also


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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: 2Dogs] #552331
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Disagree, laws and regs should NOT be up to the officer. In this case in sight or out of sight. I agree with 9er, welcome back BTW.
Where does this leave the old reg? Lets say you have "feed" out and are 100+ yards away and out of sight. The day the last grain is gone you move closer than 100 yards, has the "feed" now magically become "bait" because you haven't waited 10 days since last grain is gone per old reg? crazy confused
IMO,They should make it legal or illegal and quit playing.


+1 sounds like they're the ones trying to bait hunters to write more fines.


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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: LIOJeff] #552410
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so based on this new law, how many clubs/ landowners will implement a year around "feeding program"?

I personally see it being as close to legalized baiting as possible without technically legalizing baiting, but just curious if this law will mostly just help those that already feed through out the year (which would be good in their case) or encourage hunters to use corn to help their odds while hunting. I haven't read the law yet so don't know if feeders are required, certain amount of protein, etc., etc....

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: Deepwater] #552425
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Originally Posted By: Deepwater
Originally Posted By: G/H
Dumb question: does this pertain just to deer or to turkey hunting also


whistle

Aren't u suppose to be offshore somewhere? Squeaky(hog killer ) find us any land?

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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: LIOJeff] #552849
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Surely it's all game animals.
I was wondering too


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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: globe] #553029
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Originally Posted By: globe
Surely it's all game animals.
I was wondering too

Me too. I've got a game camera going over a corn pile and I intend to hunt the property. Turkeys usually hang out in the chufa patch which is on the far side of the 150 acres. Just wonder if I get to chasing one and he heads to the corn how close can I get, ect..
I say just legalize it. The folks who want to hunt over corn are doing it anyway. We don't do it on our lease, and wouldn't if it were legal, but I don't have a moral issue with it.

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: jmj120] #553209
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Originally Posted By: jmj120
Originally Posted By: globe
Surely it's all game animals.
I was wondering too

Me too. I've got a game camera going over a corn pile and I intend to hunt the property. Turkeys usually hang out in the chufa patch which is on the far side of the 150 acres. Just wonder if I get to chasing one and he heads to the corn how close can I get, ect..
I say just legalize it. The folks who want to hunt over corn are doing it anyway. We don't do it on our lease, and wouldn't if it were legal, but I don't have a moral issue with it.


Amazing! Wouldn't on one hand and would on the other!!


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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: jmj120] #553251
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Originally Posted By: jmj120
The folks who want to hunt over corn are doing it anyway.


So you are saying that most folks normally only follow the laws that they agree with?

What is this statement based on? Is this the way you do things, so you just assume everyone else does the same? I know a lot of clubs illegally bait, but to say that everyone who wants to corn is already doing it, is basically saying everyone who wants to hunt over corn is already an outlaw.

I personally hope it's never legallized because of the issues it creates within a club, and the fact that I've done both (in FL), and I prefer to hunt deer in a more natural pattern. But that is my opinion, and I don't have a problem with the ones that want to legalize it. I don't assume they are all outlaws.

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Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: LIOJeff] #553325
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agree...

the "might as well do it or make something legal, cause everyone else is doing it" is terrible logic. You are basically saying that we should make laws to comply with those that break laws... crazy

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: LIOJeff] #553336
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Dan moultrie will want mandatory feeders..

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: LIOJeff] #553338
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Has anybody actually read the proposal that has ALREADY been voted on and passed????

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: westflgator] #553355
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Originally Posted By: westflgator
Originally Posted By: jmj120
The folks who want to hunt over corn are doing it anyway.


So you are saying that most folks normally only follow the laws that they agree with? ...



Do most folks quit hunting deer at sunset?

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: 49er] #553358
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Originally Posted By: westflgator
Originally Posted By: jmj120
The folks who want to hunt over corn are doing it anyway.


So you are saying that most folks normally only follow the laws that they agree with? ...



Do most folks quit hunting deer at sunset?


You are gonna have to show that 'sunset' Law.......

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: Hogwild] #553363
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Sure!!!

Quote:
Section 9-11-235
Taking, etc., of protected birds or animals, raccoons or opossums at night; nighttime hunting of foxes with dogs.

It shall be unlawful, except as to trapping as otherwise provided by law, for a person to take, capture, or kill, or attempt to take, capture, or kill any bird or animal protected by the laws of this state between sunset and daylight of the following day, except that the Commissioner of Conservation and Natural Resources may by a duly promulgated regulation, allow the taking, catching, or killing of raccoons and opossums between sunset and daylight in any county or counties within the state. ...

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: LIOJeff] #553385
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OK.....you got me.....

I 'chose' to go by the Regulation (220-2-.07) that the ALDCNR set instead of the State Law dictated by the Legislature. The Regulation says 'daylight hours'.

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: westflgator] #553477
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Originally Posted By: westflgator
Originally Posted By: jmj120
The folks who want to hunt over corn are doing it anyway.


So you are saying that most folks normally only follow the laws that they agree with?



I would have to agree with this statement when it comes to hunting over bait. The convenience store down the street from my house sells 2 tons of corn each week during hunting season.

Re: Confused about baiting rule now [Re: 2Dogs] #553503
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs

IMO,They should make it legal or illegal and quit playing.


I agree.


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