truck
by jhix3734. 04/19/24 10:50 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
120 registered members (slippinlipjr, Tree Dweller, brianr, dagwood, AHolcomb, sloughfoot, jwyatt, nate409, Tall Dog, JAT, jhardy, Shane99, Claims Rep., USeeMSpurs, YellaLineHunter, bamaeyedoc, Frankie, Simpleman, JRigs10, Ron A., BrentsFX4, CNC, JohnG, Paint Rock 00, Gut Pile 32, centralala, Whild_Bill, BCD, Fattyfireplug, M48scout, Turkeyhunter12, desertdog, Wahoo, GomerPyle, blazer625, AU338MAG, Stacey, Catbird, fourfive45, XVIII, ts1979flh, Justice, ronfromramer, JA, WPZJR, TexasHuntress, Paxamus, RidgeRanger, abamadude, low wall, Richard Cranium, AU7MM08, timberman56, Lvlhdd, farmerjay, thayerp81, bug54, DoubleB, twaldrop4, Rainbowstew, klay, zgobbler5, roll_tide_hunts, Cjunkin, AUjerbear, IMISSALDEER, AL18, Hammertime7v2, clayk, Gobble4me757, Antelope08, skoor, Whiskey9, burbank, Ol’Tom, bambam32, oakachoy, BPI, Woody1, Petey, Chaser357, Turkey_neck, Bjoff27, Coosa1, Bustinbeards, Reptar, cdaddy14, SouthBamaSlayer, Overland, Bulls eye, SilverBullet, woodduck, crenshawco, Andalusia, TurkeyJoe, Jehu, ParrotHead89, johnv, BhamFred, 25-20, BigA47, Bamajoz, Fullthrottle, CKyleC, Thisldu, sumpter_al, Sself161, 13 invisible),
626
guests, and 0
spiders. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#569866
04/05/13 12:51 PM
04/05/13 12:51 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
|
Personally, I'd like to see the State change the rule to Supplemental feeding being allowed from February 1st - October 5th ONLY. From October 6th - January 31st no Supplemental feeding of any type allowed at all. If a warden finds it out during that time anywhere on your hunting property it's a ticket, no questions asked. Of course, this is just my opinion but if they would do this all "gray" areas of the law would be totally eliminated. Now, ya'll can jump on me with both feet. I know it's coming.  Why Cuz them poor little ole Alabama deer will starve if there ain't no supplemental feed out during huntin' season!! I think you may be on to something here. Of course, I don't believe some will be able to catch on to your ideas though. Sad really when you think about it. You know I really have not seen any studies or heard any comments about how supplemental feeding of deer in alabama with feed or corn from a feeder during hunting season improves the health of the deer or how it magically increases the antlers of already hardened bone. Have I missed something??
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
#569884
04/05/13 01:24 PM
04/05/13 01:24 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
|
You are wrong about current law regarding feeders. Some Game Wardens will ticket a hunter for hunting the same area as a feeder. This law tries to remove that problem by establishing an area. In my opinion, the law fails, but that's just my opinion. You say some want the State to make that decision for them????? Well, they are the ones that create the laws we hunt by, I once again don't understand your argument
As for methods to legally kill deer..I'm good with the daylight until dark hunting hours. I like the season length as it is. I wish the State would implement a tagging system that works. I see nothing morally wrong with hunting a food plot, white oak tree or corn feeder. Killing deer is easy. Killing 5,6,7 year old bucks is darn near impossible.
Please point me to the current rule, regulation or law that says that you can not have a feeder out during hunting season. So, from your comments the GWs don't enforce the same laws? That is an interesting suggestion. I am glad to see you have a line that you will not cross to kill a deer. One question though, what if your neighbor finds it perfectly moral to lure a deer into a trap with corn and walk up to the trap and shoot the deer and he wants that legalized? The outcome is the same, right? If legalized he would have used all of the legal means and methods and let's not forget that he would properly tag and report the kill, so that would be okay, right? My line is drawn at the point where a supposedly more intelligent being starts the domestication process through continual feeding of a non-self replenishing resource for the simple purpose of killing the inferior species. Especially when the supposedly superior species has the supposedly superior capacity to gain the knowledge needed to best the lesser species on his terms. Cuz Pat has a good idea that would clear it all up easily! However, I don't think it will get much attention because it is not what the people WANT. Dang, there is that word again.
Last edited by Fun4all; 04/05/13 01:24 PM.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
#569887
04/05/13 01:34 PM
04/05/13 01:34 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
|
Dont you know we shouldnt plant corn or food plots!!!
We should go all natural!!! lol Yep. Everybody knows you can just dump out a bag of corn and 200 class bucks will run to it. Well of course not! You have to have a mandatory tagging system in place for several years before that can occur!! After the mandatory system is in place I can also see turkeys being the size of ostriches!!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: BhamFred]
#570033
04/05/13 04:26 PM
04/05/13 04:26 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
jmj120
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
|
in 26 years on the job I never heard of anything even close to 1200 being closed because of the "presence of corn".....
what year?
what county? Elmore County, probably 5 years ago, turkey season. Corn present in several locations on the property. Ticket given to one hunter. Call Kieth Mann. Tallapoosa River.
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Fun4all]
#570037
04/05/13 04:28 PM
04/05/13 04:28 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
jmj120
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
|
You are wrong about current law regarding feeders. Some Game Wardens will ticket a hunter for hunting the same area as a feeder. This law tries to remove that problem by establishing an area. In my opinion, the law fails, but that's just my opinion. You say some want the State to make that decision for them????? Well, they are the ones that create the laws we hunt by, I once again don't understand your argument
As for methods to legally kill deer..I'm good with the daylight until dark hunting hours. I like the season length as it is. I wish the State would implement a tagging system that works. I see nothing morally wrong with hunting a food plot, white oak tree or corn feeder. Killing deer is easy. Killing 5,6,7 year old bucks is darn near impossible.
Please point me to the current rule, regulation or law that says that you can not have a feeder out during hunting season. So, from your comments the GWs don't enforce the same laws? That is an interesting suggestion. I am glad to see you have a line that you will not cross to kill a deer. One question though, what if your neighbor finds it perfectly moral to lure a deer into a trap with corn and walk up to the trap and shoot the deer and he wants that legalized? The outcome is the same, right? If legalized he would have used all of the legal means and methods and let's not forget that he would properly tag and report the kill, so that would be okay, right? My line is drawn at the point where a supposedly more intelligent being starts the domestication process through continual feeding of a non-self replenishing resource for the simple purpose of killing the inferior species. Especially when the supposedly superior species has the supposedly superior capacity to gain the knowledge needed to best the lesser species on his terms. Cuz Pat has a good idea that would clear it all up easily! However, I don't think it will get much attention because it is not what the people WANT. Dang, there is that word again. Sounds like you need to go back to shooting them with home-made flint arrowheads or a slingshot.
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
#570043
04/05/13 04:37 PM
04/05/13 04:37 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
jmj120
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
|
in 26 years on the job I never heard of anything even close to 1200 being closed because of the "presence of corn".....
what year?
what county? Elmore County, probably 5 years ago, turkey season. Corn present in several locations on the property. Ticket given to one hunter. Call Kieth Mann. Tallapoosa River. Sorry Troy, just called a friend, it was Byron Smith who pulled the plug on them. Corn was in several locations, some members knew about the corn, some didn't. Byron suggested the best way to handle it was to shut it down for 3 weeks. That's what they did.
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#570113
04/06/13 12:25 AM
04/06/13 12:25 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,404
Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,404
Boxes Cove
|
Personally, I'd like to see the State change the rule to Supplemental feeding being allowed from February 1st - October 5th ONLY. From October 6th - January 31st no Supplemental feeding of any type allowed at all. If a warden finds it out during that time anywhere on your hunting property it's a ticket, no questions asked. Of course, this is just my opinion but if they would do this all "gray" areas of the law would be totally eliminated. Now, ya'll can jump on me with both feet. I know it's coming. Sounds like a good idea to me, but it won't work,too simple.
Last edited by 2Dogs; 04/06/13 01:34 AM.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
#570122
04/06/13 02:09 AM
04/06/13 02:09 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
Fun4all
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494
Jefferson
|
in 26 years on the job I never heard of anything even close to 1200 being closed because of the "presence of corn".....
what year?
what county? Elmore County, probably 5 years ago, turkey season. Corn present in several locations on the property. Ticket given to one hunter. Call Kieth Mann. Tallapoosa River. Where did the road take a left turn and go from implying that it was deer season when the property was closed down to Turkey season???? If "facts" are going to be put out there, make sure ALL of the facts are presented! B'hamFred, I guess you have and I have been told now and we can just go away! We can meet up at Tannehill and knap some stones for our next hunts because we are obviously not worthy of asking questions or having opinions. 
Last edited by Fun4all; 04/06/13 02:00 PM.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: Fun4all]
#570319
04/06/13 12:40 PM
04/06/13 12:40 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
jmj120
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
|
in 26 years on the job I never heard of anything even close to 1200 being closed because of the "presence of corn".....
what year?
what county? Elmore County, probably 5 years ago, turkey season. Corn present in several locations on the property. Ticket given to one hunter. Call Kieth Mann. Tallapoosa River. Where did the road take a left turn and go from implying that it was deer season when the property was closed down to Turkey season???? If "facts" are going to be put out there, make sure ALL of the facts are presented! B'hamFred, I guess you have and I have been told now and we can just go away! We can meet up at Tannehill and flint some stones for our next hunts because we are obviously not worthy of asking questions or having opinions. Got no problem with opinions. I have mine and you have yours, that's fine. Makes the world go around. I just thought we were discussing bait. That little deal eventually busted up the lease.
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: jmj120]
#570615
04/07/13 09:41 AM
04/07/13 09:41 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
|
14 point
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
|
I would like to see one single documented
case of a game warden writing someone a ticket
for hunting near/over/around bait where the
bait/feeder/whatever
was more than 400 yards from the hunter.
ONE case. Let's see it folks. Did you pull the 400 yard figure out of your arse?? I can give you examples of an entire lease being shut down for 3 weeks because of the presence of corn. No, not from the rearend, it came from commons sense*, which is something your immature self is lacking. And you confess that you and your group were a bunch of outlaw corn hunters during turkey season. I have no sympathy. Makes me wonder what ya'll were doing during deer season... *those with commons sense knew I was referring to anyone actually TICKETED for hunting *deer* near corn or other pourable bait when they were at least 400 yards away. I would like to see the same for anyone that was at least 400 yards away from the corn while turkery hunting too....I'm waiting.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: 49er]
#570618
04/07/13 09:45 AM
04/07/13 09:45 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
|
14 point
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
|
Troy, I hope you will give the folks at DCNR your input on this one. They need to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about from time to time.  I second that.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: 49er]
#570763
04/07/13 02:04 PM
04/07/13 02:04 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,721
Chilton Co.
Duckshooter
8 point
|
8 point
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,721
Chilton Co.
|
End of story? Not 'til we get my version of ethics written into the law. I believe it's both unethical and illegal to swear with your hand on a Bible to support our constitutions and then practice usurpation and oppression using the limited authority that has been delegated to you. Constitution of Alabama 1901 SECTION 35
Objective of government.
That the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes other functions it is usurpation and oppression.
I agree w/ 49'er.
"Liberty must at all hazards be supported.We have a right to it,derived from our maker.But if we had not,our fathers have earned and bought it for us at the expense of their ease,their estates,their pleasure and their BLOOD!"
-John Adams (1735-1826)
|
|
|
Re: Confused about baiting rule now
[Re: WmHunter]
#570874
04/07/13 03:31 PM
04/07/13 03:31 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
jmj120
10 point
|
10 point
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,276
Alabama
|
I would like to see one single documented
case of a game warden writing someone a ticket
for hunting near/over/around bait where the
bait/feeder/whatever
was more than 400 yards from the hunter.
ONE case. Let's see it folks. Did you pull the 400 yard figure out of your arse?? I can give you examples of an entire lease being shut down for 3 weeks because of the presence of corn. No, not from the rearend, it came from commons sense*, which is something your immature self is lacking. And you confess that you and your group were a bunch of outlaw corn hunters during turkey season. I have no sympathy. Makes me wonder what ya'll were doing during deer season... *those with commons sense knew I was referring to anyone actually TICKETED for hunting *deer* near corn or other pourable bait when they were at least 400 yards away. I would like to see the same for anyone that was at least 400 yards away from the corn while turkery hunting too....I'm waiting. Thanks for the scolding. FYI, I wasn't a member of the lease when that happened.
|
|
|
|
