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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: cartervj] #434465
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Originally Posted By: cartervj
been conversing with a guy on another forum, said if the truth ever comes out it's all over for Obama, he is in the know so to speak

Hillary is stepping down, she announced it Friday afternoon late, Bill is POed to say the least, their legacy is in trouble


Clintons V Obama and the Chicago Machine, could be interesting! There's too many people that know too much, it may be after the election, but there will be a "Deep Throat" , someone inside the Whitehouse situation room the night of Sept. 11 will talk.



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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: straycat] #434468
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Has anyone else seen H Rivera on Fox saying the drones only got there 2.5 hrs after the shooting started ?


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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: perchjerker] #434475
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
Has anyone else seen H Rivera on Fox saying the drones only got there 2.5 hrs after the shooting started ?


The biggie is that within 1 1/2 hours of the first shots, a team could have been there large enough to handle the problem. And in 4 hours enough to take the whole damn country! The 2 navy seals didn't have to die because they were killed about 7 hours after it started! Truth be known, no one should have died.



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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: straycat] #434506
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I think you are mistaken 2D , a CIA operative on Fox said the teams had been moved to Italy where they were only 30 mins away and were denied permission to deploy.


What happened to the email crusade ????????


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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: perchjerker] #434515
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
I think you are mistaken 2D , a CIA operative on Fox said the teams had been moved to Italy where they were only 30 mins away and were denied permission to deploy.


I think we'er on the same page. Some retired General on FOX last night used those numbers. Small team there pretty quick and then a large group coming from farther away.



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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: straycat] #434547
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http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?tag=commanders-in-extremis-force

try this


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A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they too were told to stand down. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Specter gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.

According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.

Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the Consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.

Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the Consulate began — a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.

A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the Consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources.

The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi’s fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.

Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the Ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer’s new school. source – Fox News

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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: straycat] #434652
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King "O" and his cronies have told so many lies over this incident I'm not sure they even know what they've said. They truly must believe the American public is plain stupid.


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Latest, Obama claims he gave order to send help, but Leon Panetta didn't follow through. WTF!



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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: 2Dogs] #434679
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Latest, Obama claims he gave order to send help, but Leon Panetta didn't follow through. WTF!


Bodies are starting to pile up under the bus! How did he give the order when he said he "had no personal knowledge" of the situation.


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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: Skullworks] #434683
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You got that right, getting crowded under that bus.



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Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: perchjerker] #434751
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
I think you are mistaken 2D , a CIA operative on Fox said the teams had been moved to Italy where they were only 30 mins away and were denied permission to deploy.


What happened to the email crusade ????????

I sent it to everybody on my contact list, if you want it to forward on just pm your e-mail address and I'll send it to you. It might not do much good, but I've had responses from a couple of folks.

Re: Benghazi attacks: Lastest Story-Help denied! [Re: straycat] #435709
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Here's one for you. It's now starting to slip out that spec ops personnel are saying that the reason the two seals were killed is they were on the roof. One was providing cover fire with a rifle for the other who was "lighting" the mortar locations as a target with a laser designator. If they were doing that, assets were in theatre (AC130 Gunship or armed drone). Someone somewhere declined to pull the trigger and the mortar retrained on them and they were actually killed on the roof top with a mortar round. A navy seal is not going to be endangering his own life to light a target unless he is confident that someone else is there to take it out. There's a lot more to this than just a botched response. Someone way up the chain of command made a conscientious decision to just leave them out there to die because they didnt want to deal with the political fallout of whatever they were trying to cover up. Hopefully Romney gets elected and there is a full investigation and prosecution of all involved. Those guys were doing their job for this country and they were 100% let down by the people that swore an oath to protect them when they took office. Makes me sick.

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