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False Information #4170567
07/26/24 11:17 AM
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One of the call makers I follow on book of faces just posted the NWTF donated 20 million dollars to the Harris Campaign. I can't find any information on it, but if true they are freaking idiots!!! If it is true, I hope they are boycotted to the point they go under for being stupid!!

Last edited by Squeaky; 07/26/24 11:26 AM.

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Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4170569
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I don't think there is any truth to this as I asked for his source, and it was a Meme he saw posted.


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Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4170573
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Might be true. There is some affiliation between the NWTF and the Biden/Harris administration

https://www.usda.gov/media/press-re...tion-signs-50-million-agreement-national

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: abolt300] #4170628
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Might be true. There is some affiliation between the NWTF and the Biden/Harris administration

https://www.usda.gov/media/press-re...tion-signs-50-million-agreement-national


NWTF is/was on the verge of bankruptcy. Hmmm, let's see. 50M commitment from Biden/Harris, send 20M back laundered, keep 30M. Seems legit.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4170680
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Originally Posted by Squeaky
One of the call makers I follow on book of faces just posted the NWTF donated 20 million dollars to the Harris Campaign. I can't find any information on it, but if true they are freaking idiots!!! If it is true, I hope they are boycotted to the point they go under for being stupid!!


I saw it too. Doug is a hoot! He had some folks about to burn their memberships. lol.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: 3toe] #4170983
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Originally Posted by 3toe
Originally Posted by abolt300
Might be true. There is some affiliation between the NWTF and the Biden/Harris administration

https://www.usda.gov/media/press-re...tion-signs-50-million-agreement-national


NWTF is/was on the verge of bankruptcy. Hmmm, let's see. 50M commitment from Biden/Harris, send 20M back laundered, keep 30M. Seems legit.


Yeah - that agreement slides a “non-profit” further in bed with corrupt government money slinging. And surprise, surprise - under this administration. But we’ve all know how woke and out of touch NWTF has become. Some of us saw this a while ago.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4171169
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Is this true?

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4171627
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Don’t know whether they made the massive campaign donation but that article is 100% true. It’s a USDA press release. NWTF got $50 mil.

I don’t put anything past the Dems with regard to giving money to a NFP entity then that entity funneling it back as a campaign contribution. The Dems wrote the book, and invented the practice, on doing it. Did the NWTF get sucked into it? Remains to be seen but they dang sure aren’t going to openly admit it for sure. Someone needs to find out for sure though.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4171675
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Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4171694
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There’s definitely something fishy about the 50 million dollar grant that was given to the NWTF by the USDA.
Based on the information in the press release, the US Forest Service and several other government agencies are already responsible for doing the type of work that the money is supposed to be used to implement.
If they’re going to give the NWTF taxpayer money to do the work, the other agencies should be abolished.
As it stands now, the taxpayers are paying multiple entities to do the same work.
The worst part is that most of the money will be stolen or wasted and the wildlife/ habitat will see a minimal improvement.


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Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: top cat] #4175224
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Originally Posted by top cat



Quit them years ago

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4175299
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the nwtf doesn't have $20 mil to give to any campaign. They scrambled and nearly went under during covid which was a terrible fundraising time for such organizations. The board is also very conservative.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: SwampHunter] #4175381
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Originally Posted by SwampHunter
the nwtf doesn't have $20 mil to give to any campaign. They scrambled and nearly went under during covid which was a terrible fundraising time for such organizations. The board is also very conservative.


They might. Our tax dollars funneled thru a government agency to NWTF to split and give half to a campaign? Who knows. That article posted on this thread is very sketchy. It’s politics obviously, so we will never get whole truths.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: turkey247] #4175684
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by SwampHunter
the nwtf doesn't have $20 mil to give to any campaign. They scrambled and nearly went under during covid which was a terrible fundraising time for such organizations. The board is also very conservative.


They might. Our tax dollars funneled thru a government agency to NWTF to split and give half to a campaign? Who knows. That article posted on this thread is very sketchy. It’s politics obviously, so we will never get whole truths.

I used to work for NWTF. There’s nothing fishy about the government funding for them to contract forest improvements on federal lands. The government awards the money and the NWTF uses it to leverage additional funds from other sources, stimulate local business through contracts, and improve habitat on the ground.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Mbrock] #4175706
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
The government awards the money and the NWTF uses it to leverage additional funds from other sources .


10-4. Can you expound on the above statement?

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4175722
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Typically the NWTF works off multiple funding sources for habitat projects. They rely on partners, so when one pledges an amount they use that as leverage to approach other partners for additional funding for said project until they reach their goal. Most of the USFS projects in the south are timber sales that they end up putting right back into the forests, with additional funding, where they hire local contractors to complete the projects. Let’s say they want to do a pre commercial thin and prescribed fire in two years. They’ll hire local businesses to complete those projects. It helps the critters, helps the USFS by maintaining a healthier forest, and helps the local economy.

Re: NWTF Donates 20 million to Harris [Re: Squeaky] #4175786
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So did the NWTF give money to the Harris campaign or not?

We all understand how Federal grants work or at least we should.


No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
Re: False Information [Re: Squeaky] #4176012
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I quit them and DU many years ago. Use to be a sponsor member NWTF member for years.


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Re: False Information [Re: Goatkiller] #4176069
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

So did the NWTF give money to the Harris campaign or not?

We all understand how Federal grants work or at least we should.

No


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