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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: CNC] #4142959
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If some of you don't stop posting this stuff you're going to get black listed by that national dog trackers association and there will never be another tracking dog to set foot on your property....EVER. and I mean it!

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There has been no issue, except for the fact that the dog hunting association is trying to claim deer trackers are hunting deer in the hopes that they can restore their right to dog hunt

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Maybe people should learn how to shoot. No law needed.

Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4143661
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Maybe people should learn how to shoot. No law needed.


You've never shot one that you didnt recover??


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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: CNC] #4143700
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Snuffy
Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.

^^^^^This a hundred times!!!!^^^^^^


Do you mean like saying its illegal for us to dispatch live deer??.....Yeah, I don’t like that and the dog hunters association is trying their best to get folks prosecuted for it….…….


So can regular Joe hunter track his wounded deer and kill it at night without fear of repercussions?

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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: wmd] #4143704
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Originally Posted by wmd
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Snuffy
Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.

^^^^^This a hundred times!!!!^^^^^^


Do you mean like saying its illegal for us to dispatch live deer??.....Yeah, I don’t like that and the dog hunters association is trying their best to get folks prosecuted for it….…….


So can regular Joe hunter track his wounded deer and kill it at night without fear of repercussions?


Lort yeah

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I really doubt that the Dog Hunters Association swings much weight with Montgomery.


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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: BhamFred] #4143732
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
I really doubt that the Dog Hunters Association swings much weight with Montgomery.



i dont know , seems like the ones who are the loudest are the ones that get heard . in this case maybe not but just look around at the other bs .

Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: BhamFred] #4143737
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
I really doubt that the Dog Hunters Association swings much weight with Montgomery.



I agree. i think it’s stupid for hunters to compare tracking dogs to hunting dogs. Two completely different things, just like cars and trucks, both are vehicles but totally different. Just how I see it.

Which I don’t think anyone has swing In Montgomery, I think that low life pos Chuck, and that wrinkled up old worthless bitch Ivey, just do what they want and slide it under the door to pass it how they see fit. Look at the game laws we have in place now. Look how it’s changed in the last 20 years. And it will continue to get worse for the blue collar hunter, outdoors is all about money now days.

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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by BhamFred
I really doubt that the Dog Hunters Association swings much weight with Montgomery.



i dont know , seems like the ones who are the loudest are the ones that get heard . in this case maybe not but just look around at the other bs .

They may get heard, but the folks in charge ain't listening.

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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: CNC] #4143876
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I think it’s common sense that reasonable use of tracking dogs and dispatching a mortally wounded deer should be allowed.

That being said, I don’t think it’s in your interest to try to force Montgomery to make an interpretation of existing law on this subject. If you repeatedly force it, they are going to interpret the current regulations as that activity is disallowed. I think new regulations would have to be generated in order to allow it with a strict interpretation. Which isn’t going to happen. If it were me I’d shut up about it and quietly go about my business.

Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: Dano] #4143932
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Originally Posted by Dano
Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.


I've been telling folks this in the tracking community for quite some time. They want to get laws passed to "protect" the trucking world. I laugh and say keep on they will make a dollar if they can.

Yep, CNC you better get ready to buy your tracking licenses!


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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: CNC] #4144074
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Dogs gonna need to have up to date shots and collars. Lots of info on the collar, if they don’t mandate the leash law…

Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: CNC] #4144124
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Maybe people should learn how to shoot. No law needed.


You've never shot one that you didnt recover??

Only twice in 45 years gun hunting. Recovered the other 70 or 80.lost count. Lost several bowhunting but who hasn't? No dogs allowed on the properties I hunt for any reason.

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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Maybe people should learn how to shoot. No law needed.


You've never shot one that you didnt recover??

Only twice in 45 years gun hunting. Recovered the other 70 or 80.lost count. Lost several bowhunting but who hasn't? No dogs allowed on the properties I hunt for any reason.

We will allow neighbors to look for their deer with one of us present but only for a short time either find it or you don't. Lose blood, game.over. had one guy wanting to do a grid search through our sanctuary opening day, no dice pal game over.

Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: Sasquatch Lives] #4144141
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Maybe people should learn how to shoot. No law needed.


You've never shot one that you didnt recover??

Only twice in 45 years gun hunting. Recovered the other 70 or 80.lost count. Lost several bowhunting but who hasn't? No dogs allowed on the properties I hunt for any reason.


So you’ve lost 2 out of 80…….which equates to a 2.5% rate of loss…..For the last few seasons we’ve been shooting around 300K deer statewide…..If we apply your rate of loss to that number then that means that there were 7500 unrecovered that someone needed help finding……The idea that people just need to shoot better and there wouldn’t be a need for tracking dogs is false. Yeah, there is definitely some bad shooting but you’re always going to have a certain margin of error occurring that’s just baked into the cake.

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Originally Posted by CNC
If we apply your rate of loss to that number then that means that there were 7500 unrecovered that someone needed help finding……


Wonder how many of the hypothetical 7500 were just nicked or weren't mortally wounded?


You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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I have only had a good experience. Copper put a good one on the tailgate that was gut shot that I would not have found. I appreciate the dog handler and dogs. I also like dog hunting. I wish there were more opportunities for all and not be over regulated. Dang sure don’t need more regs. Now hush.

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Re: New Tracking Rules [Re: treemydog] #4144184
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Originally Posted by treemydog
Originally Posted by CNC
If we apply your rate of loss to that number then that means that there were 7500 unrecovered that someone needed help finding……


Wonder how many of the hypothetical 7500 were just nicked or weren't mortally wounded?


Most experienced trackers run about a 60% recovery rate give or take……So about 40% of calls are determined to be non-fatal or unrecoverable……Something to consider about 7500 number is that 2.5% loss is likely REALLY low compared to what’s actually occurring…..I was just using it as example to show that even at a low rate it equates to quite a few deer being unrecovered. I would imagine the real number is closer to 10% or maybe even more.

Just to give the shooting numbers a little more context…..Probably 1/3 of all the tracks I go on are for kids under the age of 16……..I recovered around dozen deer last year that were kids first deer.


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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Sasquatch Lives
Maybe people should learn how to shoot. No law needed.


You've never shot one that you didnt recover??

Only twice in 45 years gun hunting. Recovered the other 70 or 80.lost count. Lost several bowhunting but who hasn't? No dogs allowed on the properties I hunt for any reason.


So you’ve lost 2 out of 80…….which equates to a 2.5% rate of loss…..For the last few seasons we’ve been shooting around 300K deer statewide…..If we apply your rate of loss to that number then that means that there were 7500 unrecovered that someone needed help finding……The idea that people just need to shoot better and there wouldn’t be a need for tracking dogs is false. Yeah, there is definitely some bad shooting but you’re always going to have a certain margin of error occurring that’s just baked into the cake.

No guarantee a dog would have found any of those either. We put too much time and money and effort into property to have it ruined because the neighbor didn't put in his time at the range or learn basic shot placement and tracking skills.

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