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New Tracking Rules #4141806
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Well I thought folks had it set up to introduce some new rules for this year that allowed trackers to do what we do without all the fuss but that seems to have fallen through I guess……What do we need to do to get these passed and put into place?


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Imo , you should be able to track a deer with permission across any land and kill the deer if need be .
DAY or NIGHT


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That seems to be the consensus amongst most everyone……We have the new guidelines drawn up that allows for such and I thought things were moving forward but now nothing is happening…..I was really hoping they were going to be put in place before this next season.


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you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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I have no problem with the day or night, but to track across other peoples property will be your roadblock. That will not happen without some major court challenge.

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it will never be legal to track across private property w/o permission.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Originally Posted by CNC
That seems to be the consensus amongst most everyone……We have the new guidelines drawn up that allows for such and I thought things were moving forward but now nothing is happening…..I was really hoping they were going to be put in place before this next season.


I think you’re being fairly liberal with “most everyone”. if you were to take a poll to see if a tracker could go across someone’s personal property at any time they so chose for a deer I seriously doubt most everyone would be in agreement. Talk about a complete cluster and some liability.

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You come across my land without permission, there’s gonna be issues.

You get in touch with me and tell me the situation, I’ll never tell you no.


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Originally Posted by jhardy
Originally Posted by CNC
That seems to be the consensus amongst most everyone……We have the new guidelines drawn up that allows for such and I thought things were moving forward but now nothing is happening…..I was really hoping they were going to be put in place before this next season.


I think you’re being fairly liberal with “most everyone”. if you were to take a poll to see if a tracker could go across someone’s personal property at any time they so chose for a deer I seriously doubt most everyone would be in agreement. Talk about a complete cluster and some liability.




EXACTLY

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Originally Posted by jhardy
I have no problem with the day or night, but to track across other peoples property will be your roadblock. That will not happen without some major court challenge.



He has to deal with that now . Just ask permission.

I would not be for a law forcing a land owner to allow it

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Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.



I agree, be best to just hush about it and track with permission during legal hunting hours .

Coyotes might ruin the cape but getting the antlers is almost a sure thing .

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Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.


I've been telling folks this in the tracking community for quite some time. They want to get laws passed to "protect" the trucking world. I laugh and say keep on they will make a dollar if they can.


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Originally Posted by CKyleC
You come across my land without permission, there’s gonna be issues.

You get in touch with me and tell me the situation, I’ll never tell you no.


This. I'll even come help if I'm able to.

But, being on my land without my permission is 100% trespassing.


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Maybe some of y'all didnt read what was written......It says WITH permission........Anyways, the guidelines that folks came up with that were supposed to be passed allowed trackers to legally track and dispatch deer at night. It also distinguished trackers from dog hunters.....Maybe y'all have forgotten but there's a handful of folks trying to throw us under the bus and get folks in trouble


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Originally Posted by CNC
Maybe some of y'all didnt read what was written......It says WITH permission........Anyways, the guidelines that folks came up with that were supposed to be passed allowed trackers to legally track and dispatch deer at night. It also distinguished trackers from dog hunters.....Maybe y'all have forgotten but there's a handful of folks trying to throw us under the bus and get folks in trouble

Or it could have been edited to say that. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Dano
Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.


I've been telling folks this in the tracking community for quite some time. They want to get laws passed to "protect" the trucking world. I laugh and say keep on they will make a dollar if they can.


Something DOES need to be done…….It pisses me off that Eddie Maxwell reported me and tried to get me in trouble but he is correct in that if we’re going to go out at night and dispatch deer and such we need to get rules passed that make it legal…..If not its just a matter of time before the folks crying about it cry enough that someone is prosecuted in order to make an example out of them……There’s no need for it to even come to that when the vast majority of hunters want trackers to have the ability to help recover their deer night or day. The dog hunters have already gotten it on record at a CAB meeting from the head GW that anyone baying and dispatching deer in a non-dog hunting county would be prosecuted……so there you go…… Just keep sitting back and not doing anything and they'll do it for us

Do you track in any areas that dont allow dog hunting?

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Tracking a live deer is not recovering a dead deer

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Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.

^^^^^This a hundred times!!!!^^^^^^


If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Originally Posted by Snuffy
Originally Posted by BhamFred
you need to STFU before Montgomery sticks its nose in and passes rules no one likes.

^^^^^This a hundred times!!!!^^^^^^


Do you mean like saying its illegal for us to dispatch live deer??.....Yeah, I don’t like that and the dog hunters association is trying their best to get folks prosecuted for it….…….

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Here's the minutes from the Feb CAB meeting.......starting at the bottom of page 66

https://www.outdooralabama.com/sites/default/files/2-24-24-CAB-meeting.pdf


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