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Here you go CNC #4141303
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I’ve done this a few times and works like a charm
Changing people from gottta disk and throw triple 13 mentality to grow a greenfield.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/SKk7Swt3dVeocNTU/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Grew Floriana corn in ladino clover without termination and used as a green manure


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Re: Here you go CNC [Re: cartervj] #4141474
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I think it may be in this segment



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Originally Posted by cartervj

Changing people from gottta disk and throw triple 13 mentality to grow a greenfield.


As much as fertilizer costs these days I figured the idea of not having to use any would be a bigger draw for folks to change......


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Absolutely ZERO fertilizer on this high nitrogen fixer plot right now. It’s in upland hard heavy clay but does have a few inches of good organic sandy loam on top. Hopefully no fertilizer will be needed for the fall crop I follow up with.
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Are you planning on using cereal rye this fall?


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Yes it’s a part of the mix I’ll use.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Absolutely ZERO fertilizer on this high nitrogen fixer plot right now. It’s in upland hard heavy clay but does have a few inches of good organic sandy loam on top. Hopefully no fertilizer will be needed for the fall crop I follow up with.
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Looks good and like those mixes. I’m partial to triticale for some reason over rye.


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Cereal rye will likely do the best when trying to run without fertilizer.....it's a N scavenger.....Wheat especially will be much more prone to running N deficient.


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Originally Posted by cartervj
I think it may be in this segment



Oh yeah I've watched all those videos. I'm wanting to use that mix or the vitalise mix this fall and then go with the nitrogen builder next spring. As far as I can see, both those seed blends (release method, and vitalist) seem to be really close to one another. My boss is supposed to buy a no till drill this summer so we will use it in his plots and see how it goes. He owns about 300 acres that joins up to our club. Sometimes it's hard to talk the club guys into trying something new, but if they look across the property line and see his plots looking good they will want to do it.

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Originally Posted by CNC
Cereal rye will likely do the best when trying to run without fertilizer.....it's a N scavenger.....Wheat especially will be much more prone to running N deficient.


I thought I recalled triticale was the best of both worlds? Of course that was years ago.


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Originally Posted by cartervj
I thought I recalled triticale was the best of both worlds? Of course that was years ago.




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What's the cost of triticale compared to cereal rye?


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My deer are picky eaters. I planted a mix with cereal rye in it. They won't touch it, planted chicory, won't touch it. They will eat white institute imperial clover all day. Guess I am going back to that.

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Originally Posted by Rainbowstew
My deer are picky eaters. I planted a mix with cereal rye in it. They won't touch it, planted chicory, won't touch it. They will eat white institute imperial clover all day. Guess I am going back to that.



I tried biologic when it first came out and got the same response.
Deer did eat the triticale though back then.


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Originally Posted by CNC
What's the cost of triticale compared to cereal rye?



When I was planting it years ago it was similarly priced as wheat and or rye. Feed wheat was much cheaper but now’s struck in g to build organic matter

It was from the old QDMA forum where I got the info and mixes for


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I like the young guy in that video…..He seems to get it….. thumbup

Just gonna throw this pic in the mix as something to think about for your summer plantings……This is a patch of teaweed…..It started showing up several years into the soil building process. If you look at the back of the patch you’ll see the post sticking out from two exclusion cages I put around it to make sure it made seed. Teaweed is really close to being nutritionally equivalent to soybeans.

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I’ll throw something else out there to ponder over……If you have to put a fence around your summer planting and exclude the deer from using for the majority of the summer to keep it from being decimated……then what have you really gained even if you don’t have to use fertilizer in the fall??.....All you’ve done is swapped your fall fertilizer cost for summer planting cost if nothing else was gained. I know folks have summer seed blends to sell buuuuuut…..lets remember to keep things in context as it relates to the big picture. I say that because what I found was that once my fields started growing more desirable natural browse in fertile conditions, like you see above ^^^ it was hard to keep the deer from decimating those natural plants….. much less some more finicky specie that’s much less browse tolerant like everyone wants to plant. Why would I want to spend money to plant those when the deer are eating the natural browse like you see in the picture??

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