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Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4139171
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I think lot of truth said by Huck

I see some of same on my 256 every year - may not be as mad at em this year either


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Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4139201
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I killed one this year that i have had pics of for 3 years. He was at least 2 when I got the first pics. The antlers are an average nice deer for our area but nothing special. The antlers have basically been the same size for the 3 years, maybe a little larger in 2022. Based on the antlers alone, I could've shot him first year I saw him with same result antler wise. He has a running buddy that I have the same 3 years of pics that has gotten larger body and antler wise all 3 years. He is a wide deer (close to 20" this past year) so I let him go as I've never killed a deer with a 20" inside spread and in hope that he makes it til this year and is wider than 20. I hope I can let you know... Antlers mean very very little...

Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: BPI] #4139271
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Originally Posted by BPI


If you're managing age structure alone , shouldn't that be the only indicator to do so ? Don't get me wrong, antler growth can help when ageing deer, but it's not entirely conclusive. Body size, physical appearance, etc, are even more conclusive IMO. 3-4 year old deer bumping 130 would be the exact reason NOT to go by antler growth alone, would it not ?


If you’re wanting to manage for age structure alone then I’d say whatever method results in the best age structure would be the way to go……If 50,60, or 70% of the bucks are off limits because they don’t meet a score requirement then a lot of bucks get old


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Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: CNC] #4139282
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by BPI


If you're managing age structure alone , shouldn't that be the only indicator to do so ? Don't get me wrong, antler growth can help when ageing deer, but it's not entirely conclusive. Body size, physical appearance, etc, are even more conclusive IMO. 3-4 year old deer bumping 130 would be the exact reason NOT to go by antler growth alone, would it not ?


If you’re wanting to manage for age structure alone then I’d say whatever method results in the best age structure would be the way to go……If 50,60, or 70% of the bucks are off limits because they don’t meet a score requirement then a lot of bucks get old


I agree that the majority of hunters assume age based off racks.

Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4139322
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Cnc , but hunters like to kill some thing ever now and then . Hell,,, if waited on a 130 here ill be waiting a long time . If I was really hard core about it nothing killed should be younger than 6

Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4139880
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Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4139909
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How do you count points at 300 yards


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Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4140053
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I think the answer is a combination of both. Both arguments are true. If you go by rack score, you will high grade some 3-4 year olds. If you go by age you might kill 70% of your 4 year olds every year. Sooo come up with a score that meets your goals, and make sure that deer is the age you are comfortable with. But don't shoot and inferior rack buck just because he is old enough. Let that buck live and help your age structure.

That's my take on it. 130" 4 year olds is my goal. Hopefully I can stick to it. I haven't killed a 130" buck yet, but had quite a few on camera. And I've let a couple of ones walk that I thought were 120s. But I am getting an itchy finger, I can't lie.

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Originally Posted by top cat





How do you count points at 300 yards



good question . i aint gonna look to long so he may shrink as i get closer but so far it aint worked that way . knock on wood . lol


kinda like killing a spike for a doe ,,,, oh well .

Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Pwyse] #4140112
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
I think the answer is a combination of both. Both arguments are true. If you go by rack score, you will high grade some 3-4 year olds. If you go by age you might kill 70% of your 4 year olds every year. Sooo come up with a score that meets your goals, and make sure that deer is the age you are comfortable with. But don't shoot and inferior rack buck just because he is old enough. Let that buck live and help your age structure.

That's my take on it. 130" 4 year olds is my goal. Hopefully I can stick to it. I haven't killed a 130" buck yet, but had quite a few on camera. And I've let a couple of ones walk that I thought were 120s. But I am getting an itchy finger, I can't lie.


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Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Frankie] #4153218
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by CNC
We'd have better age structure if everyone managed by "score" instead of age




No,,,, I don't let a five year old 110 ,,, 120 walk . He's buger



BingOOOOOOOOO!!! I don't know anyone setting requirements on score alone. A 5 yr old 5 pt may not score 100 or even 90. Harvest on age!!!!!!

Re: points or age on bucks... [Re: Smann] #4153219
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If I were looking to join a hunting club, when I see "8.. or 6 pts or better", IF the club is wanting better than average antler size, I know that the mgmt of the club hasn't a clue what they are doing in managing bucks or a deer herd for that matter. I'd never join a club that has solely a min point restriction!!! My club goes off of strictly age. We don't care if he's a 4 pt... if he's 4.5 years old, he meets requirements! All members in my club care nothing about shooting an immature buck. Hell, we have to encourage them to shoot a low scoring 5.5 yr old!! But it ain't like we don't see bucks... because we manage our bucks, WE SEE BUCKS!!!!!!

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