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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103267
03/18/24 07:22 PM
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If they can fly drones, anyone can. Good for the goose, etc

There is zero difference between a game camera and a drone, except for quibbling over it being a more useful platform than a tree: the results/purpose/capabilities of camera technology is the same….the only difference is where the camera is mounted. Imagery doesn’t care about its platform, it just takes images. IF you aren’t hunting with electronic enhancement imagery devices, then I don’t understand the problem, OR why AL has such an issue with mere possession while hunting. They’re useful in a myriad of ways for safety and game recovery. If they aren’t capable of being weapon mounted or used as a sight, they aren’t gonna enable you to kill any turkey or deer you wouldn’t be able to kill without one. Sure, you can see stuff you might not have seen before, but you still couldn’t kill it. I’ve proven that on many occasions. How many of you would like to KNOW a deer is down and dead, before leaving it overnight to ruin, or calling out a tracking dog for no reason?….or would like to be able just to walk to or from your vehicle without running off the 47 deer between your truck and your stand?….or find a dog, lost person, etc before it gets truly out of hand? You’ll have folks that abuse anything, but the rest shouldn’t forego their own safety/convenience over those types. What if you’ve got a day to put $ down on a turkey or other lease, and can’t scout it much? A drone ‘survey’ one night for roosted birds might be the difference between some big wasted $, or a good deal. Just some thoughts. If they’re the devil to you, go to your own church. They DO have legitimate purposes, and I think the state should give wardens thermals…for their own safety, if nothing else. Will a few of them abuse them? Likely. They’re just human beings like the rest of us.

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103298
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Its cheating plain and simple


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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: Gobble4me757] #4103336
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Originally Posted by Gobble4me757
I think it’s cheating tbh. At what point is it just killing and not hunting? Work hard and scout… not that hard


Absolutely agree.



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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: ALMODUX] #4103380
03/18/24 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
If they can fly drones, anyone can. Good for the goose, etc

There is zero difference between a game camera and a drone, except for quibbling over it being a more useful platform than a tree: the results/purpose/capabilities of camera technology is the same….the only difference is where the camera is mounted. Imagery doesn’t care about its platform, it just takes images. IF you aren’t hunting with electronic enhancement imagery devices, then I don’t understand the problem, OR why AL has such an issue with mere possession while hunting. They’re useful in a myriad of ways for safety and game recovery. If they aren’t capable of being weapon mounted or used as a sight, they aren’t gonna enable you to kill any turkey or deer you wouldn’t be able to kill without one. Sure, you can see stuff you might not have seen before, but you still couldn’t kill it. I’ve proven that on many occasions. How many of you would like to KNOW a deer is down and dead, before leaving it overnight to ruin, or calling out a tracking dog for no reason?….or would like to be able just to walk to or from your vehicle without running off the 47 deer between your truck and your stand?….or find a dog, lost person, etc before it gets truly out of hand? You’ll have folks that abuse anything, but the rest shouldn’t forego their own safety/convenience over those types. What if you’ve got a day to put $ down on a turkey or other lease, and can’t scout it much? A drone ‘survey’ one night for roosted birds might be the difference between some big wasted $, or a good deal. Just some thoughts. If they’re the devil to you, go to your own church. They DO have legitimate purposes, and I think the state should give wardens thermals…for their own safety, if nothing else. Will a few of them abuse them? Likely. They’re just human beings like the rest of us.


Damn bud, you must work or own a drone manufacturer. You got real bent out of shape over that.

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103418
03/19/24 07:36 AM
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Its cheating but not much different than cell cameras. Technology is alot more dangerous to turkeys than it is deer for sure.

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: CNC] #4103420
03/19/24 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Its cheating plain and simple


Yeah...100%, I have never been that desperate to kill a turkey or deer......

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103504
03/19/24 10:47 AM
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I love how the same people on here "it's cheating, it's cheating" also think it's totally normal to just go hunt and kill turkey's whenever you want to no matter the season.

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: hallb] #4103604
03/19/24 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hallb
I love how the same people on here "it's cheating, it's cheating" also think it's totally normal to just go hunt and kill turkey's whenever you want to no matter the season.


How many you think does that? I know when I was a kid it wasnt to out of the ordinary to see a turkey brought in during deer season. But I havent seen if done in the last 30 years. Im sure it happens but do not think it happens often these days.

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103612
03/19/24 02:26 PM
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Very cool videos.


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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: sw1002] #4103629
03/19/24 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sw1002
Originally Posted by ALMODUX
If they can fly drones, anyone can. Good for the goose, etc

There is zero difference between a game camera and a drone, except for quibbling over it being a more useful platform than a tree: the results/purpose/capabilities of camera technology is the same….the only difference is where the camera is mounted. Imagery doesn’t care about its platform, it just takes images. IF you aren’t hunting with electronic enhancement imagery devices, then I don’t understand the problem, OR why AL has such an issue with mere possession while hunting. They’re useful in a myriad of ways for safety and game recovery. If they aren’t capable of being weapon mounted or used as a sight, they aren’t gonna enable you to kill any turkey or deer you wouldn’t be able to kill without one. Sure, you can see stuff you might not have seen before, but you still couldn’t kill it. I’ve proven that on many occasions. How many of you would like to KNOW a deer is down and dead, before leaving it overnight to ruin, or calling out a tracking dog for no reason?….or would like to be able just to walk to or from your vehicle without running off the 47 deer between your truck and your stand?….or find a dog, lost person, etc before it gets truly out of hand? You’ll have folks that abuse anything, but the rest shouldn’t forego their own safety/convenience over those types. What if you’ve got a day to put $ down on a turkey or other lease, and can’t scout it much? A drone ‘survey’ one night for roosted birds might be the difference between some big wasted $, or a good deal. Just some thoughts. If they’re the devil to you, go to your own church. They DO have legitimate purposes, and I think the state should give wardens thermals…for their own safety, if nothing else. Will a few of them abuse them? Likely. They’re just human beings like the rest of us.


Damn bud, you must work or own a drone manufacturer. You got real bent out of shape over that.


I have zero dogs in this fight. I just offered some observations vs just attacking any messenger. If I wanted to just take that easy road, I could’ve noted how some of this all just sounds like a bunch of Karens whining about how others choose to pursue their own business…..but I didn’t. I just posted some observations that anyone is welcome to argue or refute. If merely scouting with a drone is cheating, then firearms probably are, too…..in some sort of warped POV. wink

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103642
03/19/24 03:53 PM
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Cheating is cheating......Might as well just be baiting them in with scratch feed


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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4103660
03/19/24 04:37 PM
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anything other than a self made bow and arrows is cheating.....


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: Bulls eye] #4103728
03/19/24 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulls eye
If you got to use drones to roost turkeys…..

The same short ducks are using livescope to stroke their ego..

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: chevydude2015] #4104092
03/20/24 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chevydude2015
Originally Posted by Squadron77
Originally Posted by Ridge Life
Originally Posted by chevydude2015
I’ve heard game wardens are utilizing drones to fly over people’s property to look for feeders during turkey season as well.

Lazy bastages!!!! I don’t feed turkeys nor do I have any feeders but I still feel strongly about my statement.

Feeders stand out easily with the thermal camera but you can't tell if they have corn in them.


Correct. But they can hover close to the ground around feeder to see if its putting out any corn.

I don't approve of baiting turkeys but there's something that doesn't sit right with me about the government flying drones all over my property looking for something for no reason.


I will be destroying ANY unauthorized equipment on my property immediately and without delay if I feel as though it threatens me or mine. We can work it out in court later if the Wardens (or anyone else) want to try to pin me for destroying their equipment.

Wanna fly/walk/drive/jump/swim/cartwheel/skip across or over my property by yourself or with the aide of any such equipment? Fine with me, idc. I am a pretty warm/welcoming guy... but you better identify yourself first.

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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4104975
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I love to turkey hunt, just ain’t worth a crap at it. I could use drones, radar, tracking gps or a bazooka and still would have trouble getting on a bird!!


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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4105145
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I don't own a drone but would like to have one. Just curious after reading a lot of points in this post. I have heard of people seeing game in front of their cell cameras and then leaving the house to pursue the bird that just popped up on their camera. That would not excite me in the least, especially if it is just an ambush hunt. But, I am just as guilty as the next guy of pulling up to a gas line, power line right of way, or big field and glassing for a late morning strutter and then making a plan for trying to get in front of him and calling him in. In that case I see it as replacing my hand held binoculars with a drone. Arguing with myself over whether or not that is different.


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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4105487
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Those things are pretty dang cool and it would be hard to hide from one for sure. My buddy out in ok has a nice one and tracks deer or whatever else you’re looking for with one. I was out there getting a load of cows last November and we all ended up going to the casino that night and having a big time. About the time we’d all had our fill a fella called my buddy and said he’d shot a giant and wanted him to bring his drone to track it. I was excited to see one of these giant Oklahoma bucks they always talk about out there. Well we pull through a neighborhood and the fella who shot him is standing in his driveway in a culdesac. My buddy puts that drone in the air and that fella is explaining where he shot the buck and what direction he ran. Sure enough there’s a heat signature that looks like a deer about 200 yards away from us and across one of those deep ditches they have out there. So my buddy, from Hackleburg, and I take off after it and with guidance from the drone we start slipping up on where that buck was supposed to be laying. The “buck” ended up being a wall section of insulation like you would use for a walk in freezer or such. It was picking up the heat trapped in the insulation. I was a lot less impressed climbing back across that ditch at 4am

Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: globe] #4105488
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There’s a lot of difference in that type of drone and a camera. You can see anything that gives off heat over hundreds of acres of land especially at night. Bad medicine for coyotes/hogs

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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: Squadron77] #4171584
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Which drone do you have? Any pros/cons? I'm thinking of picking one up. Want to use it to scout my land along with large tracts of public in the off season to narrow things down.

To me everything is basically a spectrum of increasing efficiency... people moaning about drones often have no problem with a cell camera or scoped rifle.

Personally I think the state should reduce bag limits and who cares how you get your deer if you're not disturbing others.
Ban them during WMA gun hunts but the rest of the year the WMAs are very uncrowded in my experience.

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Re: Thermal drone on roosted turkeys [Re: RandanAL] #4171594
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Originally Posted by RandanAL

Personally I think the state should reduce bag limits and who cares how you get your deer if you're not disturbing others.
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Being able to night hunt would sure make it a lot easier to go after those nocturnal bucks.....


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