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Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4062980
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Re: Doe numbers [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #4062988
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
People are just tired of messing with does. I’m one of them.


I have a hard time believing that to be the cause across 15-20 counties in north Alabama......especially over such a short time period....Are people in the southern counties just not tired of it?

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Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063003
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I’m curious to see what lauderdale and Colbert final numbers are going to be.
I know they made it a lot more liberal towards shooting deer due to CWD, to try to create a dead zone/barrier, but I figured a vast majority of hunters won’t hunt that area like they used to, resulting in more deer than before.

I used to see only a handful of deer when driving 247 towards red bay, but this past year, it seemed to be crawling with deer til you got near the county line by the coon dog cemetery.

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063006
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The slaughter fest that came through the black belt in the 2000’s has finally tapped the brakes. I’m happy to see it. Now if we can just get folks to start managing the pine plantations I believe we would start to see the hunting getting back to what it use to be. Don’t know if it will ever get there with the lack of ag throughout the area though.

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063050
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There were 3 charity hunts around Montgomery area last Thur-Sun I know of that occurred.
. 200+ out of $tate hunters buying licenses and bait permits. and determined to shoot something... may cause a bump the doe kill once all those get into the total tally in those counties.
I for one wish we had a two week doe period again- and that would be it.


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How do numbers compare to the pre-Covid years? 2018, 2019

Re: Doe numbers [Re: Lockjaw] #4063066
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
The problem is simple. You can only legally kill 3 bucks, one of which has to have 4 points on one side, and last year, you could kill a doe a day, and the season was 118 days.

No way you can manage a deer herd when you can kill 118 doe's and only 3 bucks per hunter.


This right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Re: Doe numbers [Re: Rainbowstew] #4063069
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Originally Posted by Rainbowstew
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
The problem is simple. You can only legally kill 3 bucks, one of which has to have 4 points on one side, and last year, you could kill a doe a day, and the season was 118 days.

No way you can manage a deer herd when you can kill 118 doe's and only 3 bucks per hunter.


This right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Only 3 bucks? Are you complaining that’s not enough?

Re: Doe numbers [Re: Rainbowstew] #4063079
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Originally Posted by Rainbowstew
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
The problem is simple. You can only legally kill 3 bucks, one of which has to have 4 points on one side, and last year, you could kill a doe a day, and the season was 118 days.

No way you can manage a deer herd when you can kill 118 doe's and only 3 bucks per hunter.


This right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In my part of the state that is how we have to manage our deer herd. Realizing that I'm an exception, I try to kill 4-5 does a year now that our population is in check and only 1 buck, 2 sometimes if the second one is really old. I try to get all my doe shooting done by January 1. Since I haven't had time to go but twice, I'm behind on shooting does so some that have been impregnated will have to be shot at the end of the season.


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Re: Doe numbers [Re: Mbrock] #4063138
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Rainbowstew
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
The problem is simple. You can only legally kill 3 bucks, one of which has to have 4 points on one side, and last year, you could kill a doe a day, and the season was 118 days.

No way you can manage a deer herd when you can kill 118 doe's and only 3 bucks per hunter.


This right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Only 3 bucks? Are you complaining that’s not enough?


No 3 bucks plenty. A doe a day is stupid.! And get rid for the baiting!

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063144
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I had a good population thru Aug but the numbers plummeted in Sept I think with the drought blue tongue prob got my herd.

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063146
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I hope nobody in south Marshall county kills a doe for the next 15 years. I've had cell cams on corn piles since August and I have still, yet to have a fawn or yearling photo. Friggin coyotes and house dogs. We can't get a good population with a ultra low fawn recruitment rate.


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Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063173
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The drought was severe in some areas. This stunted browse growth and making the browse less palatable for the deer. I guess some does could have had miscarriages. Nature has its own way of balancing things.

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063176
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I hunted in a large club and we had deer but after recommendations we shot every doe just about we saw . Result .....the next few years it was hard to find one . That could be one of several reasons for less number this year in some of these places .

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063179
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Lots of acorns and natural browse still in the woods, plots had a hard start with the drought. Most guys don’t want to drag a doe to the truck, shoot her in the green field or easy to get to places. That may have the doe numbers down, Or that’s my thought anyway.

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Re: Doe numbers [Re: Blessed] #4063181
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Originally Posted by Blessed
I hunted in a large club and we had deer but after recommendations we shot every doe just about we saw . Result .....the next few years it was hard to find one . That could be one of several reasons for less number this year in some of these places .



You think it was cause y’all hurt the deer numbers that bad, or how much extra pressure you put on the place by killing more deer off of it, and they are harder to see now. Honest question

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Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063196
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Sure isn’t any shortage on our place. We have does everywhere. And I like it that way.


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Re: Doe numbers [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #4063225
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
There’s no shortage of deer in Colbert or Lauderdale

People are just tired of messing with does. I’m one of them.

Same thing in my part of Marion Co.


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Re: Doe numbers [Re: Snuffy] #4063226
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Originally Posted by Snuffy
Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
There’s no shortage of deer in Colbert or Lauderdale

People are just tired of messing with does. I’m one of them.

Same thing in my part of Marion Co.

Yep. There’s no shortage in most north AL counties. People are also not reporting them. The new of Game Check has worn off, people don’t report their does like they do the first two bucks. Notice what I said there. 🙄

Re: Doe numbers [Re: CNC] #4063251
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I think you gotta look at the pattern that’s occurring in the data and ask….”Why is it occurring in these particular counties but not others?”…..Its not just random or occurring the same across all counties….What’s the difference??……Your answer really needs to fit the pattern…..You cant just say that people arent reporting does now because that doesn’t fit….If that were the case it would be happening evenly across all counties…..Why is it happening in northern counties but not so much in the southern portion of the state? I’m saying it’s the hunter density, habitat fragmentation, and property sizes that’s causing baiting to impact some over others…..That fits the pattern

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