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30-06 for a Western Gun #3885297
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So a post in the General Discusiion about a new Elk rifle and the 30-06 being mentioned raised a question.

I've owned one or two and killed a bunch of deer with it, but never considered it when thinking about a future gun for out West. Mistake??

I'm not a ballistics guru, but wouldn't POI vary greatly at 200-400 yds. as compared to the popular .300 Win mag. and newcomer .280 AI along with many other popular calibers?

What Western experience do any of you have with this caliber and what bullets do you recommned? Lastly what would you zero it at? 200 yds.? With an average drop of what at 400 yds with your favorite bullet?

Reason I ask all this is because this would be a gun I could use in Bama for fields and powerlines as well as for mulies or elk out West.

Thanks for input and suggestions!

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885312
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The 30 06 is a GREAT cartridge and has killed every game animal on this continent.

Shooting the same bullets, the 300 Win Mag shoots about 5" higher at 400 yards and the difference at 200-300 yards is negligible.

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Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885329
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I’m a big fan of the ol’ .30-06. She really shines with good bullets and modern powders.


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Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885339
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Whats a good factory bullet that you've used for deer or maybe some larger game?

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885345
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Nosler Partition

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885346
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165gr Sierra gamekings have never let me down. But for elk I would probably look at 180gr.

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885348
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Ain't thing wrong with a 30-06 for out west
280 Ackley is far from a newcomer and is plenty for everything upto elk as is the 30-06.
It don't have to be the latest prc whizbanger to kill stuff at long range

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: odocoileus] #3885367
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Originally Posted by odocoileus
Nosler Partition

This.


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Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885451
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165 Barnes Triple Shock. Will shoot through anything.

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885467
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Father and son I hunt with shoot Barnes...not sure which series, but swear by them.

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885718
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I took two with mine shooting 150gr Hornady SST. 30/06 is plenty but I’m no longer a fan of the SST. I’d want a heavier bullet with stronger construction if I hadn’t traded it off. 180 Accubonds would be high on the list

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885726
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I do hear a lot of good reports on Accubonds.

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885740
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I would shoot 165 grain Accubonds or Partitions in front of a stiff load of 4350 of some sort.


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Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3885890
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It'll do whatever you want if you're up to it. Thing to do is take your /06 out to a powerline with some paper plates and try it. The usual Spring day where it starts out calm and gets blustery would be good. Set those plates at 400 and see how it goes. Also set some at 300 and 250 for comparison. Keep notes so there's no guessing at what was fired at what and how many. Maybe guess wind, too.

You'll probably start wondering about what other cartridges might be a little flatter and slicker in that wind. And what's like that and cheap enough to shoot much of.

30/06 will do it if you're up to it, though.

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3886235
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Not that I’ve put much through elk or plains game elsewhere, but it’s always been generally accepted tha: For anyone with ANY of the 270, 280, 30-06, 7RM or 300 RM class, there’s zero reason not to shoot most anything, anywhere, with them….short of big bears or DG in Africa.

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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
Not that I’ve put much through elk or plains game elsewhere, but it’s always been generally accepted tha: For anyone with ANY of the 270, 280, 30-06, 7RM or 300 RM class, there’s zero reason not to shoot most anything, anywhere, with them….short of big bears or DG in Africa.

30 06 will work just fine on big brown bears. Phil Shoemaker is a veteran Alaskan bear guide and has killed many with the aught six.


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Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3886365
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Lol….and Bell killed a lot of elephants with a 7x57 too….but I can think of a lot of reasons why it wouldn’t be my FIRST choice for that, or an’06 for a close brown bear. wink

Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: ALMODUX] #3886439
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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
Lol….and Bell killed a lot of elephants with a 7x57 too….but I can think of a lot of reasons why it wouldn’t be my FIRST choice for that, or an’06 for a close brown bear. wink

100%!

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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
Lol….and Bell killed a lot of elephants with a 7x57 too….but I can think of a lot of reasons why it wouldn’t be my FIRST choice for that, or an’06 for a close brown bear. wink

Not mine either but for a one gun man can't think of a better choice than the 30 06. I say this as someone who owns several 308 caliber rifles and none of them are a 30 06.

And I knew a woman who passed a few years back that used a 7x57 to kill all of her African game, including a nice bull 🐘

Now if Hornady would make a 7.62 Creedmoor, that would be a game changer. rofl

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Re: 30-06 for a Western Gun [Re: Treelimb] #3886477
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A 30-06 with the proper bullet matched to the specific animal you are hunting will kill the hell out of anything in North America and most things on the planet. A 30-06 also shoots flat enough to reach out past where most people on the planet need to be attempting a shot. The old aught six has just been around so long that it's not the sexy new new kid on the block anymore. Gun makers sell guns by convincing you that you need a NEW rifle chambered for one of the latest whiz bang zoom cartridges.


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