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Long range/precision scopes question #3885074
03/26/23 07:52 PM
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I don’t really do much of this but I’ve always had a rifle setup that was considered long range. But for the most part I play with it at the range and might take it hunting a time or two.

So my question is for example on the Vortex Viper PST line…what is the reasoning on having the what I consider a “complex” tactical turrets and yet have the same type of reticle? I would assume that the turrets are mostly used when you are at the range and the reticle is for hunting when you need to make quicker on the fly adjustments. But why not offer a simple hunting reticle with the tactical turrets or just the fancy reticle without the tactical turrets. I know leupold has this market covered pretty well with the CDS system but seems like it wouldn’t be a big deal for companies like Vortex to offer their PST type scopes with a simple reticle and tactical turrets or vice versa. What am I missing I’m sure it’s something the long range guys will know better than me.

Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: hallb] #3885077
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The reticle subtensions in the FFP version of the Viper PST can be used to estimate ranges, letting you know what elevation to dial.

Me, I just use holdover and Kentucky windage.

Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: hallb] #3885088
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Yeah didn’t think about that I’m not smart enough for that I just use a range finder.

Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: hallb] #3885093
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If you reload and get consistent speeds the CDS system works great

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Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: hallb] #3885310
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Holdovers are faster.


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Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: hallb] #3885313
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Dialing is most always the preferred method b/c it allows for a more precise wind hold.

The Christmas tree style reticle is needed when there isn’t time to dial for all targets. Often times in PRS you have to engage multiple targets at multiple distances from several different positions in 90-seconds so there isn’t time to dial for each target.

Also a standard duplex would be useless for engaging moving targets b/c the lead would simply be a guess.

There are no cons to having tactical turrets and a tactical reticle. There’s a lot of cons to having only one or the other.

Several manufacturers do make what you are referencing for hunting. Swaro BRH reticle is very useful for hunting but would be totally useless for PRS comps.


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Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: buckhunter2] #3885373
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Originally Posted by buckhunter2
Dialing is most always the preferred method b/c it allows for a more precise wind hold.

The Christmas tree style reticle is needed when there isn’t time to dial for all targets. Often times in PRS you have to engage multiple targets at multiple distances from several different positions in 90-seconds so there isn’t time to dial for each target.

Also a standard duplex would be useless for engaging moving targets b/c the lead would simply be a guess.

There are no cons to having tactical turrets and a tactical reticle. There’s a lot of cons to having only one or the other.

Several manufacturers do make what you are referencing for hunting. Swaro BRH reticle is very useful for hunting but would be totally useless for PRS comps.


Makes sense, wasn't thinking about the competition guys. I like the BRH reticle, but I wish it just had MOA marks.

Re: Long range/precision scopes question [Re: hallb] #3885504
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by buckhunter2
Dialing is most always the preferred method b/c it allows for a more precise wind hold.

The Christmas tree style reticle is needed when there isn’t time to dial for all targets. Often times in PRS you have to engage multiple targets at multiple distances from several different positions in 90-seconds so there isn’t time to dial for each target.

Also a standard duplex would be useless for engaging moving targets b/c the lead would simply be a guess.

There are no cons to having tactical turrets and a tactical reticle. There’s a lot of cons to having only one or the other.

Several manufacturers do make what you are referencing for hunting. Swaro BRH reticle is very useful for hunting but would be totally useless for PRS comps.


Makes sense, wasn't thinking about the competition guys. I like the BRH reticle, but I wish it just had MOA marks.


SWFA offers mil and moa reticles.


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