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Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: jbatey1] #3870568
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CRP and let the government pay you rent.


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Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: jbatey1] #3880518
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Row crop (soybeans are the best for your deer’s antlers imho) and winter wheat cover crop. Have no idea why your previous leassors wouldn’t want to do that. Row Crop ground down here goes for big $$ ($150 plus per acre per year for a lot of it, minimum $100). Cattle pasture rent is closer to $25-50.

Winter wheat as a cover crop suppresses other noxious winter weeds and produces biomass to add back to the dirt. It’s really a no brainer. It provides more $ in benefits than it costs (according to what the farmers I know have told me). It can be carried to harvest if the price is good ($12 per bushel last year I heard) or sprayed and killed or cut and baled for hay. Only downside to harvesting it is if you want to plant cotton or peanuts behind it, they’re going to be planted later than they should. If you get an early frost on late planted cotton or peanuts it can be very bad.

I don’t know where you are or how many farmers there are in the area, but down here land to rent is fought for, almost physically sometimes. It’s dog eat dog. You should NEVER have trouble finding a renter you can work with. Advertise it and see how many people call you.

Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: Tigger85] #3881753
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Originally Posted by Tigger85
Wheat would only benefit the farmer if he already had the equipment needed to combine the wheat. Also it comes off later and negates planting in corn. Wheat is usually followed by soybeans. What I would do is take the outer rows against the woods, say 10-12 feet and plant it in clovers, winter wheat or whatever. Usually that is the least fertile land due to trees sucking the nutrients out of the dirt anyway. It's a win win as your crops are out of the way of the farmer and you'll still get an attractant/ food source for animals. And it wouldn't be a big expense for you or the farmer.


Durana clover is absolutely the best thing I have found for this. Every field I have planted it on, is has spread over into these area's, and I have tried to get other forage crops to grow there.

Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: cartervj] #3897871
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Originally Posted by cartervj
CRP and let the government pay you rent.


I would seriously consider doing a portion in crp and leaving a portion in row crop. From discussions I’ve had with landowners in Kentucky, they are making the same odd crp as they do share cropping.

Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: jbatey1] #3901896
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I’d continue with the row cropping, but block out a really nice permanent clover plot or two. That way, you’re still getting most of your land rent and you can have you a couple year round plots and you and your farmer don’t have to juggle schedules around each other.

Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: jbatey1] #3902880
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Originally Posted by jbatey1
Originally Posted by Remington270
100 acres is a lot of open ground. If it was me I’d rotate on 1/3’s or 1/4’s and burn, let grow, plant crops and leave standing etc.

Neither harvested row crop or hay provides much benefit in the winter


That was my problem with row cropping, it’s great when crops are there, but after harvest, those fields are somewhat of a Barren wasteland for the most part with the exception of what naturally pops up, or the areas I plant. But once its sprayed in the spring before planting, its dead again. Maybe next year if we get back into row cropping it I’ll talk to the farmers about doing a winter crop.



Cover crops which are also typical deer plot plants.


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Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: jbatey1] #3903104
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The NRCS pays a nominal amount per acre to cover crop if your farmer is interested. It’s usually brassicas and the like which would be great.

Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: jbatey1] #3906870
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There's no money in hay, for the person who rents the land to someone, or the person who rents the land from someone.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
There's no money in hay, for the person who rents the land to someone, or the person who rents the land from someone.

I’ve been trying to give it away if someone would cut it haven’t had a taker yet.

Re: Hay vs row crops [Re: FurFlyin] #3907134
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Originally Posted by FurFlyin
There's no money in hay, for the person who rents the land to someone.


I can testify to that ^^^^^^.



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