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Sunflower vs grain sorghum #3860696
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Trying to give the peas some cover…anyone have experience with either?

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860721
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Go with grain sorghum if you have many deer. They will destroy every single sunflower head before maturity. In my experience deer and other critters won’t touch milo until it’s mature.

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I would mix them both and substitute sorghum for milo. Sorghum and milo maybe the same but I don't think it is

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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860748
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I’ve used both with peas. Deer will eat every sunflower if you have a modest density.

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Originally Posted by Ar1220
I would mix them both and substitute sorghum for milo. Sorghum and milo maybe the same but I don't think it is


It's the same

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860761
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They do like sunflowers.


It be's that way sometimes.

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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860781
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Have any of you ever used milgoranite?

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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860787
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Originally Posted by coach2
Have any of you ever used milgoranite?



Worked for about a week...


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860792
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You could mix Okra and/or Sunn Hemp with the sunflowers/peas for structure and still use Clethodim for grass control.


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3860814
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I use sorghum and it helps but last summer they still hammered the peas before they matured. I’m probably just planting chufas everywhere this year



Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861004
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What everybody else said about sunflowers. Even with moderate deer density they will wipe out the sunflowers before the establish. I quit tying to plant them.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861147
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Plant sunn hemp. The deer will eat it readily, which will take pressure off your peas/beans. Its a great nitrogen fixer, and creates a ton of biomass. The peas can use it to run on. It grows an inch a day and has a deep root system. It's high in protein too. My deer wear it out, but can't over browse it.

I already have my 50 pound bag of it, last year, I waited later to try and order it, and wasn't able to find it for what I was willing to pay.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861149
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I have also found that if I plant buckwheat, that gives the peas cover. Deer do eat it, and it does fix nitrogren. It's typically done after about 45 days, at which point it wilts and creates biomass.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861161
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Buckwheat adds phosphorus and will go to seed and resprout. I have triple cropped before when it was planted by itself. Wait till it seeds out, cut it the seeds will resprout and so on. I'm planting a mix of peas, sunn hemp, milo, buckwheat, and maybe a few others.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: k bush] #3861175
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Originally Posted by k bush
Originally Posted by coach2
Have any of you ever used milgoranite?



Worked for about a week...


Worked about 2 weeks for me but only had 1 moderate rain.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861325
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Thanks you guys for your help!!

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861340
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If you are close to Dothan, AL area there is a guy over that way that has mix called Summer Browz. It has a forage milo, buck wheat, lab-lab and a forage pea. I planted 4 or so acres of it last year. It did really well and overall was pleased with the results. The only thing I did not like was not being able to use a herbicide to control weeds with this mix.


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861365
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What would you plant with soybeans lockjaw

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861423
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Another positive about sun hemp it’s a legume so both grass and broadleaf herbicide can be used.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861437
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Any secrets to keep hogs off of it?

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