I dont know about that sentence Marsh.......

I guess I should have said “most”.

Just why is that? Facts or even just your thoughts welcome.

My point is you obviously do want to tell others how to hunt and for them to hunt more like you. Your username actually says a lot...

Oh and Marsh - good post, as usual!!!

I use cameras to monitor more than anything else. We plant food plots to increase our carrying capacity and to improve overall herd health. We can't bait anymore, which suits me just fine. Lowers pressure since majority were just dumping it on a green field. I
I'm still hunting for a hot trail out here.

I Bait the hell out of them. It's a lot of work trying to out feed everybody else. Triple Threat is the name of the game for me. I also feed them all summer.

Well I'm a fly fisherman, so there's that haha, but here's the thing I think might separate you from the rest. If at the end of the day you have heard health in mind, then that's all that matters. So long as a hunter no matter what his weapon and choice of tactic is considers herd health and the progression of the sport, then I'm happy. I'm not about to stop anyone from shooting over bait, just the same as I don't stop people from bass fishing on beds. I guess my biggest concern is that this bait hunting has i guess the potential if used poorly to cause serious damage not just to the population but to the sportsmanship hunter use to pride.

I'm always game to drink beer and talk hunting. Im drinking a beer right now.

Can you please provide me a quote where I said someone must hunt a certain way? and how is my username have anything to do with this? Have I told anyone how to kill a deer? If so can you please provide that quote?

You can just come out and say it, you like sitting in a heated shoot house over a pile of bait with a crossbow. It's ok man this is a safespace or whatever you all say.

Is it ok to catch a bluegill off its bed?

Sure, I suppose. So long as you know its harming overall population.

Now depending on the body of water this may be an intent. Or it may not be. But I dont think ignorance in todays age is a solid argument for something, not with the ability to simple good something like this https://www.proquest.com/openview/e...614/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=54136

Excerpt from this study.

"scientists found that high catch-and-release angling pressure on male bedding bass caused those fish to exhibit significantly reduced nest fidelity in future spawning cycles compared to fish that were caught and released only once.

While fish captured only once returned to their original nesting site 87 percent of the time during the next spawning season, fish caught multiple times returned only 27 percent of the time. Moreover, while nearly 97 percent of fish captured only once remained on the nest and completed parental care activities during the next spawning season, bedding bass subjected to high angling pressure completed those activities less than 6 percent of the time. These scientists concluded that, "angling nesting bass may cause them to avoid previously used nest sites and instead search for alternative sites during future reproductive seasons. This human-induced impact on nest site choice may impact the future reproductive success of those largemouth bass."


So to answer your question, no, I personally do not. And I don't try to target those locations. I suppose the question for you now is do you think It's ok to fish beds?

If you are talking about the guys who strap stepladders into their bass boats and go looking for giant female bass on the beds, I don't care for that and have never and will never do it. But then again, I don't enjoy catching crappie using Livescope so I am a bit of an old fashioned guy. My question about bluegills should have been followed by "because I am really looking forward to catching some soon". In hindsight, it probably looked like a dig at you. It was not meant to be.

Hard to tell intent over the internet.

But the reason I said depends on body of water and intent is because it's ultimate up to us as sportsman to care and look after the game we seek. These "green" people dont really care. So as long as we understand the effects of what we do and manage that then its all good.

Would I risk a slight knock in my ponds to let my kids bust a few and get that excitement? Absolutely, same with letting a new hunter bust their first deer over a feeder. And this is all not talking to you of course. But just everyone in this discussion and anyone new here that I feel we need to make sure a hunter/outdoorsman/ sportsman is the keeper of the game. If we can't do it, then the greenies will. Trust me, I come from a state that was ruined and those people that have ruined it are right behind me. I'll be damned If I watch them do it again.

We, as hunters and fishermen, pay for the care and sustainability of our wildlife resources. The greenies don't contribute a dime. Now, as for hunting over bait, I don't have any issues with that. Some of the top deer hunting states allow it so I don't buy the idea that it is harmful. If it was, Kentucky, Kansas, and Texas would not be primetime destinations for deer hunters.

All the variables just arent the same......Texas has huge ranches with much lower hunter density.......Kentucky allows you to kill one buck.....and Kansas is mostly bow hunting if I'm not mistaken

You're mistaken.

Kansas has a two week rifle season after Thanksgiving.

IIRC, they also have a week in January rifle season which is antlerless only

And how many times longer is our season compared to theirs? Mistaken or not, the fact our season is 4x what theirs is makes the similarities incomparable.

Texas is a joke, their hunting became so poor half the state is nothing but high fence and safari like hunts.

We do pay..... we pay money to the greenies who sit in political positions, dont hunt and make the laws. They dont need to pay if the control the method.

Kansas is mostly bow hunting. They have a 12 day either sex rifle season, a similar length early muzzleloader, and some shorter antlerless gun opportunities. They also have their rifle season post rut and limit you to one buck tag, and no more than 4 doe tags. Also, unless it’s changed, Buck tags are weapon specific.

Kentucky is very similar. Two weeks of gun, two short muzzleloader seasons, and 1 buck.

I have spots with no corn, I've got spots with corn. Sheet I even put a cricket on my hook when I fish.....