Don't keep up with all that 49er says about how the law came about. I just think it was an unnecessary regulation.

I don't believe in anarchy and I know what you are saying about greed. Look at the growth of the deer herd under the buck a day regulation and tell me where greed was limiting the growth of the deer herd. Look at the move toward QDM both before and since the buck limit....we were already moving in the right direction. If we had been wiping out the deer like happened in the market hunting days, sure...we would need a regulation. We weren't even anywhere close to that and in fact people were moving toward better trigger control on their own. Just the way the system is supposed to work.

no the board made rules primarily out of jealousy, I was the tie breaker, never had to vote


once again, just exactly how are you gonna enforce and or regulate what the people of Alabama own, that is law by the way, critter are not owned by the landowner til they put up a high fence

til then all of us own those critters, that is what is getting lost in translation

WE Alabamians OWN the deer, til they are legally killed by a licensed hunter which allows th licensed hunter to claim his or her prize

it has been explained to me by LEOs picking up road killed deer is not legal but overlooked

can't argue against that, but not all hunters feel the same way, there in lies the issue

will we loose our deer herd under buck a day limits, no
did it cause skewed sex ratios, yes

is that good or bad for the health of the herd?

mother nature kicks in when it needs, outbreaks of EHD come about more often or more intense

so in my belief a buck limit as we have helps to force more does shot and a better balanced deer herd, which is as 49er posts if I read correctly is a form of perpetuation of the species

Because we own the deer is why we should decide. Just like your club did by whatever mechanism you had in place (a board in your case).

If we own the deer, why should the management be decided by central planning? Why should a few people in Montgomery decide how they are managed...aren't they our deer? Why should we not use our local knowledge to make decisions?

Again...if we were wiping out the deer or something like that...sure, that is the place for government.

We weren't...people were already making great strides in deer management.

Didn't you see how many people were already moving toward QDM. People already saw the advantages. Did they need the government for that? No.

Look at BSK's post again...I think it was in another thread. The people were doing what needed to be done. All it needed was a little time.

I read his post and I know many good deer hunters that have quit hunting AL and took up deer hunting in TN, several reasons and the biggest thing was soil quality and management, AKA limits



we did decide in a way, a poll was taken and the majority did voice their support for buck limits

we're a Republic and not a Democracy

It seems like you are a fan of regulations allowing those with large landholdings to be given special rights?! So someone with 10,000 acres to hunt by himself gets to shoot 100 bucks and the guy that leases a 40 only gets one every other year?

I digress for now, I don't have the passion for it, I blame WI for that

we will NEVER have their deer, their deer at 2.5 are bigger than most of our mature bucks (4.5 and older)

A poll is actually not how a republic works is it? I didn't get to elect any representative in the Dept of Conservation that I know of?

A three buck limit is not that big a deal in the great scheme of things. Next time the government wants to regulate some other aspect of your life because the majority doesn't like the way you do something....remember where you stood when the shoe was on the other foot.

I'm a new landowner, I see how the Gov is

I owned my own business for 23 years I know how OVER regulation hurts

Nope...never said that. Never said anything about how many anyone "gets"...Those that set the 3 buck limit are the ones who determined how many everyone "gets".

Read the book...There is a little pamphlet synopsis of it.

you and 49er have implied large landowners should be allowed more, you might not have said that out right, not sure but I have read into your post that implication


ok I'll read it again this time paying attention to detail

I still like the 3 buck limit though

Thats correct, everyone gets the same amount of the public wildlife resource. It does not matter how many acres you own, the way it should be.

Buck limits is worse than CRACK

I didn't say they should be allowed more. It just works out that way unless you also want to start regulating who they let hunt on their property too?

Ah yes...Kindof like the King's deer.

So a family of 4 that owns 40 acres should kill 12 off that land. The individual that owns 10,000 should kill 3 because that is fair.

Or do you suggest the guy with 10,000 should let the family of 4 come over to his place and kill their deer on his land? Maybe we should make some sort of regulation about that....just to be fair.

I thought the limit had something to do with management. If it's about fairness and equal distribution, then we are going to need a whole new set of regulations.

The DMAP program of the DCNR prior to buck limits was working because site-specific tracts were physically evaluated by those making the decisions. Tags were not issued equally to individuals. The total number of deer that could be killed was determined by the site-specific conditions, and had nothing to do with rationing that total number of deer to be killed according to the number of hunters on the property.

"Sound biology" got lost in the mix when "biologists" started playing politics and forgot about the science.

Simple mathematics indicates that large tracts of land can sustain more deer being killed.

The "king's deer" mentality that you mentioned involves nothing more than a loss of freedom and liberty that caused our founding father's to cross an ocean and battle native tribes to survive in order to rid themselves of it. I don't care to go back, and I certainly don't want it to follow us here.