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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3680830
05/31/22 06:53 AM
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Looks great!

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3680858
05/31/22 07:42 AM
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That oughta put a hurtin on that woody vegetation! Looks good

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3681024
05/31/22 11:18 AM
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Matt and Jake did an excellent job.

Now if I can get someone on site to put in a steep fire break, we'll do it again


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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: k bush] #3681110
05/31/22 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by k bush
Anyone here going to the training burn in Monroe Co next week or the CBM course in Baldwin the end of June ?


I’m going to one in North Mobile County next week

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3681942
06/01/22 02:57 PM
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[Linked Image]

Burned May 10 with temps in 90’s and pretty dry. Hasn’t been burned in the last 10-12 years so was loaded with fuel.

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Unthinned loblolly plantation that had never been burned. Was burned June 1 with high RH and little to no wind.


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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3682279
06/02/22 06:13 AM
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For those who are experienced in growing season burns, what are the conditions that make burning pine stands this time of year productive and not destructive? I have experience with with early season burning and I avoid the combination of high winds and low RH.

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: BullMountain] #3682297
06/02/22 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BullMountain
For those who are experienced in growing season burns, what are the conditions that make burning pine stands this time of year productive and not destructive? I have experience with with early season burning and I avoid the combination of high winds and low RH.

Growing season fire is much easier to contain and control. RH values are much higher than dormant season, there’s more green foliage, typically less wind, and it’s hard to believe but the duff layer retains moisture longer because of higher RH, shade and low winds. Hardwoods drainages and slopes will hardly burn this time of year if at all. Due to the higher RH values and foliage flame intensity is typically less, so even with higher temps, it doesn’t necessarily equal hotter fire. I love burning now. Typically get a completely different plant response than burning January thru March, and it’s safer.

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3682444
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Thanks for the reply. What RH is ideal this time of year. Does the RH generally get too high at night to sustain the burn?

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3682454
06/02/22 11:08 AM
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What about using fuel models to predict the fire behavior?


"As to methods, there may be a million and then some, but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own methods.”— Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Late Season Burn [Re: CNC] #3684303
06/05/22 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CNC
What about using fuel models to predict the fire behavior?


Aww c'mon now.....don't be like that. ..... grin grin


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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: CNC] #3684432
06/05/22 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by CNC
What about using fuel models to predict the fire behavior?


Aww c'mon now.....don't be like that. ..... grin grin

Do you eat breakfast without a model?😂

I rarely look at fuel models. They can help and they can also lead to overconfident careless fire starters. 😜

Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3684558
06/06/22 07:56 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys. Good burn yesterday.

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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: Mbrock] #3684600
06/06/22 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock

Do you eat breakfast without a model?😂

I rarely look at fuel models. They can help and they can also lead to overconfident careless fire starters. 😜


Just an FYI........ I took the class last summer to get recertified as a burn manager and the whole class is taught around fuel models....I didnt remember talking about it much back in school but the methods that were taught in last year's burn class made a lot of sense and seemed like it took a lot of the guess work out of predicting what was going to happen once the fire was lit.

I was just messing with you a little bit when I asked the question....... grin

Last edited by CNC; 06/06/22 08:32 AM.

"As to methods, there may be a million and then some, but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own methods.”— Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Late Season Burn [Re: Mbrock] #3684703
06/06/22 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by CNC
What about using fuel models to predict the fire behavior?


Aww c'mon now.....don't be like that. ..... grin grin

Do you eat breakfast without a model?😂

I rarely look at fuel models. They can help and they can also lead to overconfident careless fire starters. 😜


Agreed


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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3693669
06/20/22 07:16 PM
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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3694949
06/22/22 01:15 PM
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Here are a few pictures from some of our growing season burns. One thing you have to remember once everything has greened up is that there will be a lot of smoke. We burned a few miles south of Troy for a couple days and there was a huge smoke plume that could be seen from 231. It didn't have any impact on anyone but it turns a lot more heads with a thick plume and people not seeing a lot of smoke this time of year.

Late May
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Late May burn-picture from last week
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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3695591
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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3696886
06/24/22 10:11 PM
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Burn update

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Re: Late Season Burn [Re: 270wsm] #3696994
06/25/22 07:09 AM
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Heck yeah. That looks great.

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