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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3668699
05/11/22 08:06 AM
05/11/22 08:06 AM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 17,927 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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"I can hit a paper plate 1 outta 3 times it 100 yards." Reason #1 why people need to call CNC for a tracking dog....
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: Mbrock]
#3668754
05/11/22 09:22 AM
05/11/22 09:22 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,543
Awbarn, AL
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Shooting sun MOA on paper don’t mean diddly for someone who can’t pull themselves together under an adrenaline packed hunting scenario. I personally like to group an inch or so while shooting under controlled conditions in hopes that I can shoot within 3-4” of my crosshairs while hunting. Lol. Aim small miss small. For a long number of years I laid the smack down on deer with a rifle and then had a 2-3 year span where I boogered a few up. It wasn’t my rifle. It wasn’t the distances. It was just me, although I can shoot very well and confidently. It just happens sometimes. Nerves do a lot to the human body. This ^^^^^^
The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3668775
05/11/22 09:45 AM
05/11/22 09:45 AM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,111 B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,111
B'ham
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If you can only hit a pie plate @ 100 yards..... you had better aim for the center otherwise common sense says odds are you'll be out of the vitals if you are off even a little. 10 inch groups don't work, that's the answer.
Aim small.
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3668798
05/11/22 10:25 AM
05/11/22 10:25 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,449
abolt300
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,449
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With a rifle: Bucks, high (2/3rd's up) and through both shoulders. Does (meat) behind the shoulder, or in the head if they are fairly close (100-150 or less) and I have a rest. The pie plate theory is why so many deer are wounded, lost, require a dog, and/or are left to suffer. I wont keep a gun that I cannot get to group at an inch or below, off a bench. When I get to a deer, if I had a decent rest, and the entrance is not "exactly" where I was aiming, I'll check the scope before I hunt with it again. Shot a buck walking the edge of a cutover this past year at 220 yds. Had a good rest, but didnt break him down. Found him about 30 yds from where I hit him. Hit him about three inches back off the point of the shoulder which was where I was aiming. Elevation was perfect and ended up hitting him high frontal lung, right in the crease, but windage was 3" to the right of what I thought was my POA. I figured he must've taken a step as I squeezed it off but I still stopped and checked zero on that gun on the way out, just to make sure. As a hunter, we owe it to ourselves and the animals to make sure our equipment is in top shape and perfect operating order, every time we go in the woods. That way, when we do decide to kill one, we do it as quickly and humanely as possible.
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3668839
05/11/22 11:35 AM
05/11/22 11:35 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,179 Ourtown, AL
BCLC
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,179
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Y’all be careful, we had one of these threads back in the fall and I got all high n’ mighty Mr.Sub-MOA can kill a buck at any reasonable range and tracking dogs are for pu$$ies. Long story short, CNC ended up on speed dial. I’m just saying. . .I don’t know if it was kharma visiting with me, bad luck, or just time for me to expand the friend group. LOL
Known rifle, verified before and after, 100% user error. My daughter said it’s because that buck was hers to shoot. 🤣
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3668916
05/11/22 01:31 PM
05/11/22 01:31 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 17,927 North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 17,927
North AL
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An accurate rifle inspires confidence when shooting at game. Doesn't mean we don't make a bad shot with an accurate rifle, but that's on the shooter. I missed a doe last year with my most accurate gun at about 175 yards. Should have been a chip shot but I blew it. A month later I shot two deer at about 350 yards. Go figure.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: Claims Rep.]
#3668935
05/11/22 02:04 PM
05/11/22 02:04 PM
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Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 10,316 northport
deadeye48
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 10,316
northport
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I aim for the G-N-O triangle when given a broadside shot. F N or 2 for me No tracking DOTS
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3669078
05/11/22 04:43 PM
05/11/22 04:43 PM
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Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,722 Earth
TDog93
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,722
Earth
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M-n-o-p good for me - like this target
Just being able to connect on pie plate at 100 yards blows
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3669209
05/11/22 07:01 PM
05/11/22 07:01 PM
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Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,805 Banana Republic
jb20
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 16,805
Banana Republic
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Theys many places that'll kill one...I missed my share and also made some unbelievable shots...the point is have the most accurate gun u can to compensate for your screw up
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3670075
05/13/22 07:32 AM
05/13/22 07:32 AM
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Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 3,876 Montgomery,al,usa
Davyalabama
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 3,876
Montgomery,al,usa
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I'm not thinking of a paper plate at any distance I shoot, 400 yards and in, because that paper plate is just too big. I'm thinking of looking for one very small specific spot on that deer. Once I know I'm going to shoot that deer, I am looking for that small spot/hair I plan for that bullet to hit. 1) Know your target and verify; 2) Check surroundings; 3) Control heart rate; 4) Control breathing, 5) Check surroundings again; 5) Aim at THE spot; 6) breathe in, let some out; 7) slowly squeeze the trigger; 8) Keep eyes in the scope and verify target is down; 9) Rack another round; 10) verify target is down; 11) Give Thanks; 12) Climb down for the real work to begin. With enough practice 1-8 can take a matter of seconds, sometimes in the woods that's all you have. Practice the way you are going to hunt. Know what that bullet is going to do, know where it's going to hit, know what you are shooting at you want to take home.
“If you do not conquer self, you will be conquered by self.” Napoleon Hill The most difficult thing to understand during conversation is silence. Thoreau
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: Frankie]
#3670377
05/13/22 04:02 PM
05/13/22 04:02 PM
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Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,292 In the woods
Here4fun
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,292
In the woods
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I shoot at the N . I Follow the leg up to that shoulder , take a breath , let half out and squeeze slowly . No tracking required usually. Im too old to search for and drag a deer up and down hollows these days.
Last edited by Here4fun; 05/13/22 04:05 PM.
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3670453
05/13/22 07:03 PM
05/13/22 07:03 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 14,233 ArmPit of the south
DeerNutz0U812_
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Booner
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 14,233
ArmPit of the south
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I blew it this yr on a great buck... He came by me chasing a doe and stopped behind a big pine tree about 60 or 70 yds away and was watching what her next move would be...I could only see his head, neck, a little tiny part of his shoulder and front leg and that big rack behind that pine...Safety off, propped rest, crosshairs settled on his neck(chip shot right?) Problem was I have never tried to shoot one in the neck intentionally (40 yrs of hunting) so I waited for him to take one step...just one little tiny step forward 8 or 10 inches...I had the scope on him for what seemed like an eternity to where I was second guessing my decision figuring he would spin around and run at her directly away from me.....A DANG GOODUN TOO....Guess what happened next....you guessed it, that joker spun around on a dime and went directly away from me chasing her......Took me 40 yrs for that lesson...It wont happen again I promise.....
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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Re: Shot placement
[Re: doghouse]
#3670751
05/14/22 08:07 AM
05/14/22 08:07 AM
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Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 3,876 Montgomery,al,usa
Davyalabama
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 3,876
Montgomery,al,usa
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DeerNutz, most of us have let some walk because the shot wasn't what we wanted to take. It would make me sicker to wound one and not find it than pass up an "iffy" shot.
“If you do not conquer self, you will be conquered by self.” Napoleon Hill The most difficult thing to understand during conversation is silence. Thoreau
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