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Muzzleloader Newbie #3646452 04/05/22 01:32 PM 04/05/22 01:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County WGDfarm23 OP 4 point
WGDfarm23 OP 4 point Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County	Looking at buying a .50 Cal Muzzleloader. Never owned a muzzleloader before but shot my buddies Knight 50 cal many of times.Wanting one that uses 209 primers and black powder sabots. Preferably one that is newer and easy to handle. Any suggestions on the best brand for an easy to shoot up to 100 yards and accurate 50 Cal that I don’t have to mix and measure powder?

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646499 04/05/22 02:57 PM 04/05/22 02:57 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 42,058 UR 6 top cat Freak of Nature
top cat Freak of Nature Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 42,058 UR 6	CVA is a good gun and won't break the bank LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!! - - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646559 04/05/22 04:32 PM 04/05/22 04:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 40 Spanish Fort AL D Darver540 spike
Darver540 spike D Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 40 Spanish Fort AL	Just bought a cva optima v2 combo with scope from muzzleloaders.com and I dig it but can’t find any 209 primers!!!!

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646831 04/05/22 10:00 PM 04/05/22 10:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 6,889 Shelby Co, AL CatHeadBiscuit 14 point
CatHeadBiscuit 14 point Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 6,889 Shelby Co, AL	PM to OP incoming "Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646836 04/05/22 10:13 PM 04/05/22 10:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County WGDfarm23 OP 4 point
WGDfarm23 OP 4 point Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County	Replied. Thanks for the info! Looks like I’m leaning towards CVA but not in any hurry right now so if you have an opinion I’d love to hear it

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3646844 04/05/22 10:40 PM 04/05/22 10:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 11,144 Central Alabama Cuz-Pat Booner
Cuz-Pat Booner Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 11,144 Central Alabama	I'm real fond of my Thomson Center Encore Endeavor .50 cal ML. Might want to take a look at them. I can shoot a 3 shot group from 100 yards that all touch each other, using Hornady SST 250 grain bullets and 110 grain of Blackhorn 209. Love this rifle. Cuz-Pat Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3649864 04/10/22 08:21 PM 04/10/22 08:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,885 Lauderdale County Cousneddy 8 point
Cousneddy 8 point Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,885 Lauderdale County	Had a CVA Optima, then a CVA Apex. IMHO can't go wrong with the CVA, if shopping used look for a V2. The easy to remove breech plug is really nice. Plenty of good folks on here that will help you spend your money wisely!

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3651168 04/12/22 07:12 PM 04/12/22 07:12 PM
Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 10,918 Earth TDog93 Booner
TDog93 Booner Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 10,918 Earth	Heard good things about Thompson Center encore - what Cuz Pat says - impressive I hav a knight and it been good for me Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3651773 04/13/22 04:43 PM 04/13/22 04:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 673 Huntsville T thayerp81 4 point
thayerp81 4 point T Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 673 Huntsville	Encore is a great option, you can always swap to other calibers also. I'm also a big fan of the Knight rifles.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3652466 04/14/22 03:57 PM 04/14/22 03:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,442 Highland Home, Al S Squadron77 10 point
Squadron77 10 point S Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,442 Highland Home, Al	I bought an Optima and a Wolf last year and both are deadly. You can find your primers on muzzle-loaders.com but buy them now because they will be gone in a few months.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3652749 04/15/22 08:59 AM 04/15/22 08:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 227 huntsville, alabama U ultratec00 4 point
ultratec00 4 point U Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 227 huntsville, alabama	I recommend either CVA Accura or TC Encore. One requires no paperwork, the other does.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3653175 04/15/22 08:13 PM 04/15/22 08:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County WGDfarm23 OP 4 point
WGDfarm23 OP 4 point Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County	Which one doesn’t require paperwork? I’ve been looking at the Accura LR and like it a lot

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3659475 04/26/22 08:51 PM 04/26/22 08:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 251 Hollywood, Alabama; Jackson Co... H Hunter454 4 point
Hunter454 4 point H Joined: Aug 2016 Posts: 251 Hollywood, Alabama; Jackson Co...	I like my knight ultra light. All you need to know is. Dead deer don't grow!

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3659695 04/27/22 09:22 AM 04/27/22 09:22 AM
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 817 Middle Alabama S Stoney 6 point
Stoney 6 point S Joined: May 2020 Posts: 817 Middle Alabama	The Optima V2 from muzzleloaders.com with the scope and gun case is what I have and it is great. So easy to load and clean . A great value also

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3659696 04/27/22 09:22 AM 04/27/22 09:22 AM
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 817 Middle Alabama S Stoney 6 point
Stoney 6 point S Joined: May 2020 Posts: 817 Middle Alabama	The Optima V2 from muzzleloaders.com with the scope and gun case is what I have and it is great. So easy to load and clean . A great value also

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660079 04/27/22 08:53 PM 04/27/22 08:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County WGDfarm23 OP 4 point
WGDfarm23 OP 4 point Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 272 Russell County	Does anyone own a CVA Accura by chance and have any input on it? Been looking at them and the V2 mainly.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660367 04/28/22 09:31 AM 04/28/22 09:31 AM
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 817 Middle Alabama S Stoney 6 point
Stoney 6 point S Joined: May 2020 Posts: 817 Middle Alabama	The CVA Optima V2 is a real good gun.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660404 04/28/22 10:21 AM 04/28/22 10:21 AM
Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 5,146 F L A T Tree Dweller 12 point
Tree Dweller 12 point T Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 5,146 F L A	I'm not going back to Sabots.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: Tree Dweller] #3660567 04/28/22 02:08 PM 04/28/22 02:08 PM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 6,889 Shelby Co, AL CatHeadBiscuit 14 point
CatHeadBiscuit 14 point Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 6,889 Shelby Co, AL	Originally Posted by Tree Dweller I'm not going back to Sabots. Is this your mode of operation TD? Powder, Spit patch, ball, half cock, cap, ready, full cock, aim, squeeze first tigger, hold, fire. Or Are a flinter? Last edited by CatHeadBiscuit; 04/28/22 02:09 PM. "Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3660924 04/29/22 06:18 AM 04/29/22 06:18 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 227 huntsville, alabama U ultratec00 4 point
ultratec00 4 point U Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 227 huntsville, alabama	The Encore will require paperwork if bought new, the CVA can be bought over counter/online/etc. I have both. The Encore Prohunter has served me well and extremely accurate. Picked up an Accura PR in black nitride last year. Very good trigger and iI too is extremely accurate, shooting less than 1"@100 yards w/ blackhorn 209 and 200 gr shockwave. Originally Posted by WGDfarm23 Which one doesn’t require paperwork? I’ve been looking at the Accura LR and like it a lot Does anyone own a CVA Accura by chance and have any input on it? Been looking at them and the V2 mainly.

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: CatHeadBiscuit] #3660925 04/29/22 06:29 AM 04/29/22 06:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 5,146 F L A T Tree Dweller 12 point
Tree Dweller 12 point T Joined: Jul 2020 Posts: 5,146 F L A	Originally Posted by CatHeadBiscuit Originally Posted by Tree Dweller I'm not going back to Sabots. Is this your mode of operation TD? Powder, Spit patch, ball, half cock, cap, ready, full cock, aim, squeeze first tigger, hold, fire. Or Are a flinter? I don't know about all their hype. I do know they fly nice out of my gun, and have one clean kill last year. "Skirt" "Gas Check", much easier than sabots. (250's)

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3661454 04/29/22 10:31 PM 04/29/22 10:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 6,889 Shelby Co, AL CatHeadBiscuit 14 point
CatHeadBiscuit 14 point Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 6,889 Shelby Co, AL	Oh yeah! I forgot about those. Some people rave about their results with power belts. Others not so much. I’ve yet to try them. It’s cap and ball mostly with an in-line of questionable safe use level it’s probably gonna stay that way. "Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous

Re: Muzzleloader Newbie [Re: WGDfarm23] #3668969 05/11/22 03:02 PM 05/11/22 03:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,143 Ramer ronfromramer 10 point
ronfromramer 10 point Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,143 Ramer	Originally Posted by WGDfarm23 Does anyone own a CVA Accura by chance and have any input on it? Been looking at them and the V2 mainly. I have the accura v2 and really like it. Accurate and dependable. Probably the best, smoothest trigger of any gun I own

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