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Scope Update #3593767
01/24/22 08:26 PM
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Wanted to report on scope I recently purchased - after sighting in - hunted w it today. Leupold VX6HD 3x18x50 30 mm side focus w fire dot reticle
I May still need to adjust eye peace for clarity - but this is what I see in first evening hunt: nice scope - not as clear Late as what I already have (eye peace or focus knob May take care of this) and it does not bring in as much light. Right now - and This May change if I make the right adjustment if one is available - my meopta and conquest 30mm 56 diameter r clearer and bring in more light late and I like my 50mm victory bettr also. Some folks had said - the new Luepolds Vx5 HD and 6 HD are better than sawarski. Not seeing that yet and I never remember doing anything special out of the box to a scope to make one work right
Guessing I May try to get the equivalent in Meopta r Zeiss if that deal is available - will evaluate this new scope little more

If not - I could change the victory I have on 2506 and put this Leupold on my 2506 and victory on new rifle

Wanted u guys shopping to know

Thanks


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593781
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Shame to pay that much for something and not be satisfied.

Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593790
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I love the old cheap conquest, I havnt had the funds to buy much recently but I've used a couple high dollar Swarovski that were my dad's n can't tell much difference...I guess I'd have to have them side by side tho n I haven't done that


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593810
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^^^^
My conquest Kicks butt JB


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593815
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And the Meopta is neck and neck w the conquest - splitting hairs


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593824
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I will say I like Leupold and that's mostly what I buy but they do seem dim almost like looking through brown lens sun glasses compared to alot of scopes but at last light has not caused me any problems on killing deer.ive got to look through alot of scopes standing around sign in board or stomping through the woods killing time between hunts with friends and have had several guys bragging on their scope then I look through it to discover my $300 Nikon is much more clear and bright.

Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593849
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One time I called Leupold technical support asking what the physical difference was between vx6 glass and lower levels like vx3. The guy told me it was the same glass and coatings, just upgraded mag range and scope body quality. I don’t know if he was completely informed but he acted like that was no secret information.

Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593885
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I have a conquest hd5. I cant tell much , if any difference in it and a vortex viper or a bushnell elite, for that matter. The Zeiss might be a little clearer at distance at dark than the bushnell elite but i really think the viper is right there with it. The Zeiss is a $1300 scope. Ive been getting the vipers on sale for $400 or less. I think i have about $200 in my elites each. I sure cant see the Zeiss being worth that much more

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My $500 pair of Zeiss binos work well late - my meopta and conquest work equally well late also - but I go to the binos a lot because it is easier late. Here is the kicker - the Leupold I just bought was lagging way behind the $500 pair of binos late. The conquest and Meopta don’t lag behind my binos


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593897
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Had wondered about vortex JWalker

My meopta was around $800 - very happy w it - my conquest was $1000 - they both work better than Leupold and Nikon I hav had
This Leupold I just bought was very expense - 1750 ish - my cheaper scopes above work bettr


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593941
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The problem i have to overcome is being able to judge a deer 200yds away on a cloudy evening at last legal minute. My eyes might not be what they used to be either. There has been some evenings this season when i just really needed to be able to see a little better. Im using a set of nikon monarch 3 10x binos. Im thinking about upgrading. I can make the shot but i just cant make a good judgement call. I held off on one i should have shot, i shot one i might should have held off on. I know my eyes arent what they used to be. I just need a little extra help. Im thinking about a set of 12x50 binos, maybe 12x56

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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3593947
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^^^^
Me too


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3594039
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Originally Posted by TDog93
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Me too


This has been the issue I have had for several years now, my eyes. I do not have bad eyes, I just need readers. BUT, try and look through a scope with them on and WOW it will screw your brain up. I have a new Whiskey with illuminated dot ret I like. However, last week about 4:30 is there was a small buck about 100 yards off and I tried to adjust the eye piece to get clarity and it would not adjust enough for me. I will look for a different one next year that has a side focus. My last Weaver Extreme I gave to my son was a damn good scope for $300. Heavy, but good.

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I don't own one but all the vortex I've looked through where super bright.

Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3594233
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i'll take it tdog...send me payment info smile


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Re: Scope Update [Re: TDog93] #3594243
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^^^^^
Thank you

The store has given me some things to do - gone try to get it out within next 4-6 days and try

Thanks


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My go-to rifle, which is also essentially my truck gun is nothing fancy. Just a Ruger m77. It has a Sightron on it. Couldn't tell you how many deer or whatevers I have killed with it. You can get caught up on glass but beyond being able to see extremely long distances and the contrast being at a level you can see bullet holes in targets at the range.... there just isn't much difference between good/decent scopes to get very worked up over. I don't think a Leupold is a Swaro either but I like my Leupold and they do the job. I like my S&B PMII's on the range. But I don't scoff at my Zeiss scopes or Nightforce just because they are not quite as good.

I don't need any of that to kill a deer. The most useful optics you'll ever buy for hunting.... are a pair of Binoculars. If you have a good pair you don't need to get into splitting hairs on your scope just about anything considered a good scope will get the job done.


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^^^^
Your right and somebody said that on one of my scope info threads - I hav good enough to make it thru legal w what I had - I just wanted to see top of deer head really good at last light

I not mad or bitter - May even keep it

From my past experiences- My gut told me to go w Meopta r Zeiss - i didn’t go w my gut and I am old enough to know bettr 🤣😀


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Originally Posted by TDog93
My $500 pair of Zeiss binos work well late - my meopta and conquest work equally well late also - but I go to the binos a lot because it is easier late. Here is the kicker - the Leupold I just bought was lagging way behind the $500 pair of binos late. The conquest and Meopta don’t lag behind my binos


Good binos will always be brighter than a comparable level scope if the objective lens are the same size. Also, if you are doing a brightness comparison between scopes, you need to make sure that you have the power settings the same when comparing. Later it gets the lower the power level you go to in order to enhance light. Example, if you are comparing a 12 power 56MM ziess with the VX6 HD cranked up to 18 power at last light, the ziess will definitely appear brighter and clearer due to the max magnification being lower on the Zeiss. Try comparing the two scopes on the same power and I'll bet that the difference will be negligible between the two.

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56 objective / 8 power = 7 exit pupil. This is the max for the human eye and magnification setting you want to shoot in low light. For a 50mm objective it is about 7 power and so forth, whatever math brings you to that 7 exit pupil.

If you've got the scope up on 12 it is actually harder to see the deer in the dark, however the scope's contrast is a huge factor in this as well. Good contrast in an asset.

But none of that will ever get you close to a pair of Binos.


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