Ammo
by Cody Fowler. 04/15/24 09:52 PM
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Re: Speaking of data
[Re: joshm28]
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06/16/12 10:45 PM
06/16/12 10:45 PM
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Madison
BowtechDan
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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49er is pretty good at cuttin and pastin references. The rest? Not so good.
You should be able to provide a reference if it's a law or reg. It adds credibility. Just sayin.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Speaking of data
[Re: joshm28]
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06/17/12 09:50 AM
06/17/12 09:50 AM
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Eddie
Not gonna argue with you but there is absolutely nothing illegal about them serving more than one term. It would clearly say a term of six years and a maximum of BLANK terms It already says in plain language that each member's appointment will be for six years. To read it any other way is to add language to the law when it is not there.
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Re: Speaking of data
[Re: 49er]
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06/17/12 11:53 AM
06/17/12 11:53 AM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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A term for a Board of Trustees member at Auburn or Alabama is defined as x-number of years. They serve multiple terms after being asked to continue.
There is no meaning, definition, intent or wording in the existing description of a CAB term that delineates a limit of how many terms a member may serve when asked and agreed, and "at the pleasure of the Governor." None. The current wording defines only the length of one term.
If someone doesn't like the wording, work to get it changed.
Last edited by Clem; 06/17/12 11:54 AM.
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Re: Speaking of data
[Re: 49er]
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06/17/12 04:59 PM
06/17/12 04:59 PM
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truedouble
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How do you get 12 yrs, 18 yrs or 60 yrs out of a 6 year term? You ignore the law. The law clearly states that the term of each appointed member will be 6 years. If the legislature intended for the term to be unlimited thru re-appointment, why would it bother to define the term as 6 years? Would you also argue that the governor can appoint as many members to the board as he wants as long as he appoints 10? The law doesn't state that he can't appoint more if he likes: Section 9-2-14
Advisory Board of Conservation and Natural Resources - Created; composition; qualifications, appointment, terms of office, and compensation of members; residency requirements; meetings; record of meetings and proceedings; transitional members.
(a) There shall be an Advisory Board of Conservation and Natural Resources. The board shall consist of the Governor, the Commissioner of Agriculture and Industries, the Director of the Agricultural Extension System ex officio, and 10 other members to be appointed by the Governor, one of whom the Governor shall designate as chair of the Advisory Board of Conservation and Natural Resources...
I think most people, for or against, would agree that if the intent was actually 6 years, total, for life, it wouldn't have used the word "term". I think of a term as a period of time that a politician can stay in office without having to get re-elected. After said term he must be voted or appointed back in...
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Re: Speaking of data
[Re: BowtechDan]
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06/17/12 09:01 PM
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49er is pretty good at cuttin and pastin references. The rest? Not so good.
You should be able to provide a reference if it's a law or reg. It adds credibility. Just sayin. Thanks Dan. Here's some credible evidence of laws appying to other boards I found as examples that the legislature knows how to authorize "reappointments" if it chooses to: Section 11-50-342
Qualifications, appointment, terms of office, compensation, and removal of members of board; oath and bond thereof; vacancies; election of officers; quorum.
... The successor of any member of the board shall be appointed for a term of six years, but any person appointed to fill a vacancy shall be appointed to serve only for the unexpired term, and a member of the board shall be eligible for reappointment.
Section 16-53-3
Board of trustees - Created; membership, eligibility, etc.
... Beginning in 2006, the terms of the trustees shall be six years, with the exceptions noted below, and no trustee may serve more than two terms except that trustees serving in 2006 are eligible for appointment to one additional term regardless of the previous number of terms served.
Section 16-33C-4.1
Composition of PACT board.
(b) Members shall serve for terms of office of four years and shall be eligible for reappointment, and shall serve until a successor is appointed. Any person appointed to fill a vacancy on the PACT board shall be appointed in a like manner and shall serve for only the unexpired term.
Section 16-60-195
Advisory councils.
... The members of the councils shall serve for terms of one year and shall be eligible for reappointment.
Section 16-60-335
Board of trustees - Role in administration and governance; composition; terms; operation.
(c) As terms of members of the board of trustees expire, the board shall recommend to the Chancellor, for appointment by the Alabama State Board of Education, qualified persons for appointment or reappointment to the board.
Section 16-7-2
Membership; appointment; terms; vacancies; per diem and expenses.
... One of the two new commissioners shall be appointed originally for a term of eight years and the other for a term of six years. The successors of all commissioners shall be appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Senate for a term of 10 years. Commissioners shall be eligible for reappointment. (emphasis added) There are plenty more examples in the Code of Alabama. I just got tired of posting them.
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Re: Speaking of data
[Re: 49er]
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06/23/12 08:47 PM
06/23/12 08:47 PM
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Bucktrot
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49er, you're wrong in your attempt to label me or anyone practicing QDM or basically, anyone who is practicing targeted or selective or disciplined "killing" of animals and habitat mgmt for the overall benefit of wildlife, landowner and hunter. QDM is what it's called and especially what "you" call it but not only is it QDM.... it's SDM or Sensible Deer Mgmt.
Last edited by Bucktrot; 06/23/12 08:53 PM.
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