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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Remington270]
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12/04/21 02:20 PM
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high fence very low pressure lease
Must not have been a very good high fence operation. The ones I've been to have had mature deer in greenfields in broad daylight. Yep I see some big uns around here feeding in high fence
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
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12/04/21 03:37 PM
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Many of the cornholers are always out there dumping more corn and screwing around with their cameras and stands and leaving scent, that's why they're not seeing bucks in daylight. We have a winner! Pressure is the major factor. Old bucks won't tolerate it. If they get hunted at all they don't like plots or cornpiles in daylight. Sometimes I think hunters had much rather get a bunch of live trail cam pics than one dead in the truck pic. I'm more of a dead in the truck guy.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: CNC]
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12/04/21 04:26 PM
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I'm surprised I havent seen more people going to the "Texas sendero" strategy.......Our cutover and young pine understory is not all that different from their brush understory.......Looks like you ought to be able to do about the same thing Cause in TX they’re running 140-180 deer per square mile versus our 20-40 per square mile. I’ve spent extensive time on stand on baited and nonbaited areas and I can tell you, deer in general, approach baited areas completely different than nonbaited. You can certainly kill mature deer on corn, yes. But it’s not as easy as some think. Several camera surveys and studies have proven its more difficult to kill mature bucks in areas with bait than it is in areas without it.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
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12/04/21 07:19 PM
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Our 2 biggest bucks in Fayette County last year were killed within close proximity of a feeder during the rut. I don't think they were feeding, but they knew does regularly come to those feeders. They popped in to check for does and ended up at the taxidermist
Last edited by Phil_Army; 12/04/21 07:22 PM.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Phil_Army]
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12/04/21 07:39 PM
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Our 2 biggest bucks in Fayette County last year were killed within close proximity of a feeder during the rut. I don't think they were feeding, but they knew does regularly come to those feeders. They popped in to check for does and ended up at the taxidermist Thats how its gona happen. Or maybe they stay out there a little to late in the morning.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
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12/04/21 10:08 PM
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I track deer with my dogs. The vast majority of our recoveries this year as well ss our non recoveries habe been shot over corn Just more people hunting over corn now. I guess
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Frankie]
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12/05/21 08:35 AM
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I track deer with my dogs. The vast majority of our recoveries this year as well ss our non recoveries habe been shot over corn Just more people hunting over corn now. I guess Some never even consider that could be the reason.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
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12/05/21 09:51 AM
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I think it does have a lot to do with the general area also as well as pressure. I like many up in the top right corner hunt large tracts of hardwoods . Many up here hunt areas where deer never see an ag field and few people. I can't say much about deer in other areas of Alabama but I suspect as far as mature bucks , they operate similar to ours. In my mind mature is 4YO+ . Hunting big woods deer you won't consistently kill mature bucks in plots or with their head in a corn pile.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
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12/05/21 09:59 AM
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I track deer with my dogs. The vast majority of our recoveries this year as well ss our non recoveries habe been shot over corn Just more people hunting over corn now. I guess Some never even consider that could be the reason. There ya go, , when there's a corn pile over every hill and a hunter sitting within sight of them , it's the corn stupid. I don't think it's caused a huge increase in the demise of old , savvy bucks though.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
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12/05/21 07:08 PM
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Some fat deer pics for sure the last couple of years….
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Interesting data on corn
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12/05/21 08:24 PM
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And I hav deer on one side of my 250 that act differently than deer on other side of property and respond to things like cameras and feeders differently and that is just 250 acres I have a small tract and see the exact same. Any given day or moment I can get mature bucks on 4 out of five feeders. That fifth is like the plague. Poured corn out one time about 50yds from it and it was like a light switch. Beats me because there is ZERO pressure on the place other than when I go in once a month to fill the feeders.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
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12/05/21 08:44 PM
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^^^^ Booner I hav hunted all kinds of ways - clear cut and road systems w out food r 2 of my favorite
To the bait and feeder - I fed deer for years in FL and Arky now here - they like it best on the ground. Some deer in some areas are very comfortable w feeders after a few months - my big field I am just now getting them comfortable- had to take down my camera - on some deer - the feeder and the cam can both be negative amd I often threw corn on the ground - spread it thin on ground 30-40 yards around feeder - helped mine get use to it. Took deer over a year to get comfortable w my feeder at big field. Other side of my property I got a field that mainly bucks visit - call it my buck plot - super comfortable w that feeder - I started there on the ground to but they were never as tuff as the big field on the other side of property
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Mbrock]
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12/05/21 08:52 PM
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You can certainly kill mature deer on corn, yes. But it’s not as easy as some think. Master Baitin ain’t easy
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
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12/06/21 10:45 AM
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So my situation appears to be that the deer aren't really bothered by me. There are a few related things at play in this IMO. Biggest thing is I'm not a deer blaster. That's #1. I shoot hogs all the time I just don't shoot at or around the does. I am fairly conscious about the gunfire and I don't shoot a hog standing in a field full of deer if at all possible.
Second. I am out there all the time working on the farm.... farming. So they are use to someone being around. Because I don't shoot them, they don't run ass wild when they see me coming. Mostly just stand there looking.
What that does it this. .. The older does who are not scared of me are teaching the younger deer how to react to human presence. To the extreme that I have used the tractor that every afternoon and hydro fluid probably still warm and machine stinking like oil. Nice buck 10 feet from it eating acorns 30 minutes after dark on a Sunday night. And after I've been out there around the barn literally all weekend. That was last night.
I am not associated with Danger. That's the pinnacle of success IMO. I still use common sense about what I am doing such as not checking cameras every day. Still takes a conscious effort. What I have learned is it is still hard to get one to 5 years regardless of all this. When you put that much effort in you realize how fragile a deer's life is. When you hunt a place for 10 years and never see a really good deer.... there's your answer on how and what it takes to change that. It's easy but very tough at the same time.
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