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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545780
12/04/21 10:12 AM
12/04/21 10:12 AM
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Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 9,800 North Jackson
ridgestalker
14 point
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14 point
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North Jackson
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I was talking to our new lease manager yesterday and he told me about 2 camera surveys he was part of. One on high fence very low pressure lease, and one on a managed lease. Randomly selected the cameras, pulled the cards and would you like to guess how many mature bucks came to the corn during daylight hours?
Less than 1 percent.
And I had dude get mad and leave because we wouldn't let him bait a greenfield ......
Those 20 does coming in the daylight will put the oldest buck on the property there in daylight. People don’t wait and make the does nocturnal.IMO
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: ridgestalker]
#3545783
12/04/21 10:25 AM
12/04/21 10:25 AM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 7,913
sj22
14 point
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14 point
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I was talking to our new lease manager yesterday and he told me about 2 camera surveys he was part of. One on high fence very low pressure lease, and one on a managed lease. Randomly selected the cameras, pulled the cards and would you like to guess how many mature bucks came to the corn during daylight hours?
Less than 1 percent.
And I had dude get mad and leave because we wouldn't let him bait a greenfield ......
Those 20 does coming in the daylight will put the oldest buck on the property there in daylight. People don’t wait and make the does nocturnal.IMO This^^^^^
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545785
12/04/21 10:26 AM
12/04/21 10:26 AM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,348 Kennedy, al
globe
Booner
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Booner
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Well now you have to define mature. Also I need to know WHEN this survey was done. Early October? Late November? Deer become more nocturnal as the daylight changes and rifle season opens. By some people’s definition some properties don’t have any mature deer anyway. I get the great majority of the bucks I have on camera in the daytime too. Less as rifle season opens obviously.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545787
12/04/21 10:27 AM
12/04/21 10:27 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,588 Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Booner
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I was talking to our new lease manager yesterday and he told me about 2 camera surveys he was part of. One on high fence very low pressure lease, and one on a managed lease. Randomly selected the cameras, pulled the cards and would you like to guess how many mature bucks came to the corn during daylight hours?
Less than 1 percent.
And I had dude get mad and leave because we wouldn't let him bait a greenfield ......
Why wouldn’t you let him bait a foodplot?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#3545791
12/04/21 10:29 AM
12/04/21 10:29 AM
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 6,627 Moulton,AL
Snuffy
14 point
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14 point
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I was talking to our new lease manager yesterday and he told me about 2 camera surveys he was part of. One on high fence very low pressure lease, and one on a managed lease. Randomly selected the cameras, pulled the cards and would you like to guess how many mature bucks came to the corn during daylight hours?
Less than 1 percent.
And I had dude get mad and leave because we wouldn't let him bait a greenfield ......
Why wouldn’t you let him bait a foodplot? ^^^^This^^^^^
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545803
12/04/21 10:40 AM
12/04/21 10:40 AM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,375 Jasper, AL
joshm28
14 point
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14 point
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I put out feeders for the does. I want every doe within a mile on my property when the rut starts. It has zero to do with trying to get bucks to the feeder.
And I wouldn’t base any decision off second hand knowledge of a camera survey on someone else’s property. I know of multiple farms/leases where mature bucks hit feeders at all times of the day. But I’m curious as to your reasoning for not letting others put corn on plots.
Last edited by joshm28; 12/04/21 10:48 AM.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545824
12/04/21 11:21 AM
12/04/21 11:21 AM
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Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 22,148 blount county alabama
jwalker77
Pumpkin
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Pumpkin
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Posts: 22,148
blount county alabama
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To argue with you a bit. I cut some trees this week for a fella who owns a deer farm. He said the bucks theyre killing all come to feeders, 100%. Thats where they kill them. He said a three day sit will get every one of them.
Last edited by jwalker77; 12/04/21 11:21 AM.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545834
12/04/21 11:37 AM
12/04/21 11:37 AM
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Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,966 Earth
TDog93
Booner
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Booner
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I hav had luck w corn and good deer - my cameras seem to spook the really old deer and not the corn - but some of my deer don’t mind camera. Several of my really mature deer hav shown up to corn - get that pick and it like they give me the middle finger and say screw this - not digging that camera. Hav cut several of mine off - will cut on in time and still hav some running - especially my road cameras - they help me some - but they spook some of my good deer
The corn don’t spook em. Pour some on ground - scatter it in the woods - in a month the best deer on your property prob would hav visited it
You also can’t accurately compare a survey and make it be universal to all our properties
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545837
12/04/21 11:39 AM
12/04/21 11:39 AM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,748 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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I've tracked a bunch of mature bucks for folks that were shot over corn.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545840
12/04/21 11:46 AM
12/04/21 11:46 AM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,615 Alabama
dirkdaddy
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10 point
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Alabama
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Had a friend laid out a nice 4.5 year old 8 point last year, coming to the corn at 8am on a frosty morning. The place is very unpressured and the ladder stand he shot it from was 170 yards away. Make the situation right and they'll come, but it's a lot of effort
Last edited by dirkdaddy; 12/04/21 11:46 AM.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
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12/04/21 12:01 PM
12/04/21 12:01 PM
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Posts: 10,966 Earth
TDog93
Booner
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Booner
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Another thing I experienced this year and also last year - I had my oldest deer - at least 7 years old showing up regularly in daylight early Oct to corn in Wilcox county - I had moved my camera up higher and angled it down and it did not seem to bother him as much. I had already counted him as killed - then I stupidly bought in a new feeder - it looked like the other 2 feeders and I put it right by one of the existing feeders. As I was going to check the new feeder and cam for the first time it dawned on me I may hv just screwed up bad because I remembered putting up a new feeder last year in another area right before season and it screwed that field up for 3-4 weeks. Daily bucks disappeared for a while. Anyway - I hav not seen that 7 year old since October - just cause I put a new feeder up in his area - not even a night pic. He will b bac eventually- but prob not daylight
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545844
12/04/21 12:01 PM
12/04/21 12:01 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,748 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Posts: 21,748
Awbarn, AL
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I'm surprised I havent seen more people going to the "Texas sendero" strategy.......Our cutover and young pine understory is not all that different from their brush understory.......Looks like you ought to be able to do about the same thing
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545891
12/04/21 01:37 PM
12/04/21 01:37 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 21,781 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 21,781
USA
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high fence very low pressure lease
Must not have been a very good high fence operation. The ones I've been to have had mature deer in greenfields in broad daylight.
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Re: Interesting data on corn
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3545895
12/04/21 01:43 PM
12/04/21 01:43 PM
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Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,966 Earth
TDog93
Booner
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Booner
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Earth
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And I hav deer on one side of my 250 that act differently than deer on other side of property and respond to things like cameras and feeders differently and that is just 250 acres
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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