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turkey research #3495939
09/27/21 08:33 AM
09/27/21 08:33 AM
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Looks like things are getting finalized for a new turkey research project in cooperation between Auburn University, Alabama Wildlife Federation and Turkeys for Tomorrow. AWF and TFT will provide funding for 2 projects starting this winter. Since The Hunting Public has provided some funding to Mike Chamberlain for a project using Autonomous Recording Units (ARU’s) on some Alabama Management Areas, AWF and TFT decided to replicate this (AU is working in cooperation with Chamberlain) on some comparable areas of private land to see if there are any differences.
These units record gobbling in set time frames and the collected and analyzed information will be able to compare timing of gobbling activity, how gobbling changes based on hunting pressure and the effects of habitat and predator management on gobbling activity (good comparison with private/public land), as well as the effects of woodland composition (pine/hardwood/fields, etc) on gobbling.
One of these sites will also have a large number of hens gps radio-tagged to look at nesting and brood success as well as habitat utilization. Again, these will be excellent opportunities to compare public land with private land as well as be able to look at how management activities like burning, thinning, timber composition, predator control, etc effect nesting success and brood survival and how these differ on private land. We can start to compare management practices and see why some properties have good turkey numbers and some lower.
The final part of these projects (and where yall come in!) will be to collect testes from hunter harvested birds throughout the state. This will directly look at whether all or only a portion of the adult gobblers (and jakes) are fertile and does that change through the season. We are all, obviously, concerned about reproduction and recruitment of young turkeys into the population and have all heard that possibly only a small segment of the adult gobblers are doing the breeding. This will directly address this. If the majority of gobblers are fertile then no individual gobbler is any more important than any other. If it is a small portion of the population then early season gobbler harvest may be a problem.
Stay tuned! This is what Dave Owens was referring to and hats off to both AWF and TFT for stepping up to the plate to fund AU on what may be the largest scale turkey research project to date. Both of these groups are raising funds from private sources, mostly private landowners and companies. I am excited to see how this research pans out! For that matter, hats off the THP for getting it started in the State!


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Re: turkey research [Re: gobbler] #3495949
09/27/21 08:43 AM
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Great to hear that sort of research is gonna happen.

Do you know what happened to the much publicized 5 year project that Auburn did with the dcnr? We were told it was gonna be ground breaking and provide great info, and then nothing was ever released. My cynical mind suspects that it didn't produce the desired results, so it was buried. But I really don't know that.


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Re: turkey research [Re: gobbler] #3496001
09/27/21 09:50 AM
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I believe it was buried. I have participated in the state harvest reporting for turkeys for several years. the results are supposed to come out in a report from the conservation dept. called Full Fans Sharp Spurs. The magazine and report from 2020 season has never been approved and sent out. It was supposed to come out before they changed the rules for 2022, but did not. My guess is it did not support the rule changes and the conservation dept. is embarrassed to send it out or scared too.

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Re: turkey research [Re: gobbler] #3496083
09/27/21 12:16 PM
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Re: turkey research [Re: gobbler] #3496165
09/27/21 02:28 PM
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A lot of trouble for the information the state should provide automatically unless they are hiding something or are embarrassed by something.

Re: turkey research [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #3496235
09/27/21 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


Great to hear that sort of research is gonna happen.

Do you know what happened to the much publicized 5 year project that Auburn did with the dcnr? We were told it was gonna be ground breaking and provide great info, and then nothing was ever released. My cynical mind suspects that it didn't produce the desired results, so it was buried. But I really don't know that.


There are thesis published at AU, 5 that I am aware of:
Factors influencing post-capture survival and survival of Eastern Wild Turkeys in Alabama - Stephen Jeffery Zenas
https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/handle/10415/6229/SZenas_Thesis.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
Occupancy Rates of Eastern Wild Turkeys: Estimating effects of experimental harvest regulations and automating image analysis - Brianna Danielle Stewart
https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/ha...%20Thesis.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
Comparing Camera Survey Methods for Monitoring Eastern Wild Turkey Populations - Skylar Rose Keller
https://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/ha...s24.08.19.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
Estimating Use, Density, and Productivity of Eastern Wild Turkey in Alabama - Matthew Brandon Gonnerman
http://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/han...s%20FINAL.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
Resource Selection and Bait Response by Female Eastern Wild Turkey in Alabama - Lee Aaker Margadant
http://etd.auburn.edu/bitstream/han...AL_081819.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y


The publication you would want from the State or University is "Comparing harvest management alternatives for Eastern Wild Turkeys in Alabama" authored by Barry Grand, Amy Silvano, Steven Barnett, Carolyn Moore and Briana Stewart. This is the "resulting publication" of the research project.

That being said, the research AWF and TFT is funding is new and going to be run by Dr. Will Gulsby. Its in the future, the other stuff is in the past.

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