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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/22/21 11:28 AM
09/22/21 11:28 AM
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Joined: Dec 2009
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Fun4all
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Simple answer to all of this is, If you only shoot well made extremely sharp fixed broadheads you take the mechanical broadhead failure out of the equation!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: Fun4all]
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09/22/21 11:38 AM
09/22/21 11:38 AM
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Todd1700
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Simple answer to all of this is, If you only shoot well made extremely sharp fixed broadheads you take the mechanical broadhead failure out of the equation! There really isn't a mech failure problem to figure into the equation. Buy any well known mech head and they will open. Claims that they didn't are bull chit in the range of oooooh about 100%. Stop and consider a simple fold from the front 3 blade mech head. It's a simple hinge system. And each hinge operates independent of the other two. So for none of the blades to open you would have to have not one but 3 of the simplest mechanical systems on earth fail simultaneously on the same shot.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/22/21 04:47 PM
09/22/21 04:47 PM
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Ridge Life
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Sorry for his troubles but I’ll never shoot anything other than a rage. Just my experiences alone make my decisions. Maybe swhacker again if it came down to it
Last edited by Ridge Life; 09/22/21 04:49 PM.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/25/21 01:10 PM
09/25/21 01:10 PM
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deadeye48
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Booner
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I shot rage for years and they always killed but they were alway unusable after one shot I bought some Sevr mechs and have killed two hogs with the same broadhead and it still razor sharp It is mounted on the same bolt ready for round 3
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/25/21 08:43 PM
09/25/21 08:43 PM
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walt4dun
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TRUST BIG & HEAVY
SIMMONS LANDSHARK 175GR + FMJ ARRAHS
THRU & THRU ON SHOULDER BLADES AND QUARTERING TO SHOTS ON A 60LB MATHEWS OUTBACK
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Last edited by walt4dun; 09/25/21 08:46 PM.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/25/21 09:02 PM
09/25/21 09:02 PM
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Posts: 28,954 Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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You just haven’t hit that one spot on the shoulder yet. 😉
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
ShawBuilt Custom Bowstrings
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/28/21 01:18 AM
09/28/21 01:18 AM
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outdoors1
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Sounds like the guys arrow was off, hit hard bone, or broadhead didn't open just right, some or all. With a mechanical there are just more things to check. More to go wrong if it is not checked. Most mechanicals come with a practice head that is not the actual one being used on game and is closed not allowed to open. All products have a potential for defects. Molds making products get worn over time, process, or components could change, or weight could change, one blade could be more heavy, causing incorrect flight path. Have you ever noticed some arrows just fly more true than others, some ammo patterns are different, even if exact same kind? Would it be best to shoot the broadhead being hunted with at a target even though it is mechanical just make sure it flies true? The broadhead should be cut out of the target as to not damage it, inspected closely, and blade sharpness checked. Even a slight weight difference of a broadhead can make an error not fly true. An elk shot over a corn pile with a pre-arranged set-up would not be the same as one walking through the woods on different trails. Lot more possibilities for human error. We should check every arrow and broadhead combination before shooting any animal. Even then some testosterone rutting bull with all that adrenaline would keep going on with a shot that would take the usual animal down.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: Shaw]
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09/28/21 12:07 PM
09/28/21 12:07 PM
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Todd1700
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You just haven’t hit that one spot on the shoulder yet. 😉 Yep. Most of a deers shoulder is muscle and cartilage. The actual skeletal bones are much smaller. If you hit the actual bone in the front shoulder like the shoulder joint for example you will get chitty penetration fixed or expandable.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/28/21 12:12 PM
09/28/21 12:12 PM
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Posts: 28,954 Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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I’ve done it twice with a fixed head and once with a mechanical. Same result each time. You only get a couple of inches of penetration and you find your arrow from 5 to 10 yards away with very little to no blood on the ground.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
ShawBuilt Custom Bowstrings
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: Shaw]
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09/28/21 01:44 PM
09/28/21 01:44 PM
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Atoler
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I’ve done it twice with a fixed head and once with a mechanical. Same result each time. You only get a couple of inches of penetration and you find your arrow from 5 to 10 yards away with very little to no blood on the ground. That’s exactly why I changed my setup. With both fixed blades and expandable, bone stops it immediately with a light arrow. With a heavier arrow and sharp cut on contact, you will break bone some of the time. A lot of people are taking the heavy arrow fad way too far. For my setup, 500ish grains is a good compromise. I’m still shooting 280fps, but if I make a shoulder shot, good chance the deer is gonna die. I shot a doe a couple of years ago, and thought I spined her. She dropped in her tracks. Turns out the arrow double lunged her and broke her offside leg as it exited.
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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09/28/21 01:46 PM
09/28/21 01:46 PM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 16,486 Guntersville
AC870
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Guntersville
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Add mechanical heads to the “taboo” topics like religion.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: Trusting mech heads
[Re: kodiak06]
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10/12/21 09:30 PM
10/12/21 09:30 PM
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Posts: 6 Loxley, Alabama
Swamp Stomper
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spike
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I've been bow hunting for 32 years and all I've ever used are NAP Thunderhead 100gn. That being said I've killed lots of deer with no issues and they fly great. I've always said if it ain't broke don't fix it.
One Shot One Kill!!
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