For those of you who blend your own mixes, what is your favorite recipe and how much per acre do you use( broadcast)?We’ve been using WMS blends but it’s expensive. My opinion is we’re investing too much with expensive blends and application rates. I’d like some opinions to see where the majority opinion is. Interested in a clover/cereal grain/ barassca blend.

I plant
50# wheat
25# triticale
5# radish
5# crimson per acre.

I’m no till drilling but if I was broadcasting I wouldn’t change a thing

Some feed stores will mix it for you to - think Thomasville feed had a 6 way for like $20 bucks last year - they also had 4 way - 5 way etc.

Guys in here can tell u lot more specific though

Clover my main stay - I also use some wms - my plots so small and few - I don’t hav to buy much

My co-op is selling a 7 way mix consisting of wheat,oats,rye, peas,radish,turnips, and crimson clover for $21/bag. Does a half acre.

I would tailor the seed rate to the size of the field and the intensity of the grazing pressure……Smaller fields with higher grazing pressure I’d increase the stocking rates of the cereal grains……If you look up normal planting rates for things like cereal rye it ranges from 40lbs to as high as 150 lbs/acre…..As fields got larger and grazing pressure lessened I would decrease the amount of cereal grains down to the lower end and more evenly blend the mix with clover and radishes/turnips………For example if I were planting a 20 acre field I’d probably go with 50 lbs of cereal grains……2-3 lbs brassicas and 10-12 lbs of various clovers………If it were a ½ acre plot I’d probably go with 100-150 lbs of cereal grains and a pound or two of clovers with no brassicas.

Have you considered spending the money and planting whitetail clover/fusionalfa rack in addition to cereal grains? Then come back in the spring and cut, spray for weeds and fertilize.

I usually plant a 3 or 4 way cereal grain mix, and then add in a brassica mix with it. This year of course fusion or clover is going in on all my bigger fields. That gets me out of the spring pea planting business.

Eventually I want all my fields in some sort of perennial, even the small ones.

I take the size of the plot. I only have 3 so it’s easy. Then figure out the seeding rate for what I’m going to plant. I usually plant about 50% wheat, 20% turnips, 30% clover. So this equals 100lbs of wheat, 2-3 lbs of turnips, and about 7lbs of clover per acre times 6 acres. Broadcast the wheat out with the fertilizer. Mix the clover and turnips together and hand broad cast it on top last. With a little tweaking and record keeping, you buy the same amount of seed yearly. It will take a little time and figuring, but will save you in the long run. This is the easy part, if you don’t do your due diligence with soil testing, and getting your ph right, it won’t matter what or how much seed you throw out.

50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.

I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.

I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.

I got ladino plots also I maintain.

It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it

It's not rocket science but it is soil science. Not "overthinking it" is why so many people do things like just go throw out 300 lbs of 13-13-13 blindly

I broadcasted 200# of night crawlers and 50# red wigglers other day. Is that enough cnc?

That'll probably work......I'd have waited until turkey season though.

Don’t confuse worms with my yellow crickets.

So what were your findings from the experiment? I’m guessing oats are preferred over everything else.

When I did that experiment I found that oats were preferred early on and then it kinda split between oats and cereal rye later in the year......wheat was last but it also wasnt growing as well in my sand at the time....Oats were definitely there preferred early draw though

I really like oats. Unfortunately in North Alabama they will freeze with a few cool nights in a row. I planted triticale and radishes this fall but I may over seed with some rye. I love Buck forage oats but they have gotten to expensive for me.

I'm sure many people have good luck with wheat but the problem with it is that it is finicky compared to the other cereal grains.....it's more likely to run N deficient and yellow, etc........Grown in ideal conditions with a lot of nitrogen then it may preform just as well as anything else or better but in less than ideal conditions it doesnt compete as well with oats and especially cereal rye

We make 100plus bushel wheat up here. It’s hardly finicky

Not overthinking, just trying to see what the majority opinion says. The other lease holders think we’re doing fine but I think we’re over doing by a great deal. For instance- 12 bags of wms blends and 4 bags of rye mixed in were used on 4 plots. Using onX map tools on two separate occasions, the plots total about 3 acres. Adding in the fertilizer and we spent almost a grand on 3acres.

Holy chit batman......

That is overkill. I plant on the heavy side because of high deer density. We plant 150 lbs cereal grains with 200 lbs trip 17 and 10 lbs of annual clover per acre. Add nitrogen in December. At these inflated prices we have now, still less than $150 per acre

That’s why I’m asking….
We’re in a good place, good numbers , the three of us get along well with no drama, landowner is great to us and is well respected locally so one messes with us so I’m treading lightly to not upset the apple cart but I think it’s way overboard on this area.

We don’t even spend $333.33 per acre on row crop wheat

4 bags of WMS would have been plenty, might have added 5 lbs. of clover. One bag of WMS covers an acre

With fertilizer included?

With a lot of fertilizer included. Our typical wheat program runs $280-$300 an acre.

What, when and how much do you use on production wheat?

Not trying to be a dick but wms says 50 lbs per half acre for alabama blend

We put down a 30-80-80 at planting typically. Then come back with 2 trips of N during winter and early spring to a total of 125-130 units of N

Oats and rye were about equal.

They rarely touched the wheat. Unless prices get extremely high on oats and rye I won’t plant wheat.

They actually prefer the ladino even in the winter.

I've had the same luck with wheat. They'll tear up the oats. Sow it thick and hit it with N.

I need to say

If wheat is all I do plant in a field for some reason then they eat it

Didn’t want to sound like they won’t eat wheat.

What about elbon rye?

I use it or abruzzi a lot. I typically mix wheat, oats and either abruzzi, elbon or triticale. Throw a little crimson clover in and be done. People over complicate this. Although oats are highly preferred a few days of sub freezing temps and they’re done. I used to mix purple top turnips or dwarf essex rape. I stopped. Now dang near everything is in perennial white clover and I top sow into my clover. Clover fixes N and without constant soil disturbance P and K applications aren’t needed at such high rates.

I like to mix wheat, rye, and triticale plus clovers if I disc oats also.

I planted about two acres of ladino clover early this week. I put out 100lb of elbon rye with it, just to try it. Ill see what it looks like and might add something else later. I think i put 10lb of clover seed on the two acres. Its a T&M field so i really dont know what to expect yet. Ive got plenty of time to add to it if i need to. My primary goal is some feed this hunting season and ongoing feed from here on out. We will see.
Also T&Med about two acres of yuchi arrowleaf. It was about head high when i bushhogged it.

Same here. Im working towards converting half of our feilds to ladino clover for the same reasons. Planting 2 feilds in fixation clover and 2 in frosty berseem clover. First time Planting either of those .

^^^this man be correct. 2 bags or 100lb/acre on the WMS

I’m pretty sure magnet says or said 50# to the acre. Alabama blend was 50# to the half acre. I know buck buster was 50# to the acre.

WMS Deer Magnet is 50# per acre.
WMS Alabama Blend is 100# per acre.

Been 3 years now since I've added any P&K and two years since I used any N......

Yall also need to check your filler percentage and germination percentage. 50lbs, is actually not 50lbs. It has fillers and coatings for the seed that has to be subtracted from the weight and then if it's only 85% germination rate then that has to be subtracted. Let's say 50x85%=42.5lbs-5lbs filler=37.5lbs. As you can see, your not actually planting 50lbs of seed. You'll need to increase your rate.

I disced, fertilized and planted around 18 to 20 acres this week at our farm. I use different mixes in different plots and pastures. I have 5 plots from 1/2 an acre to 2 acres in the woods, and 4 large pastures , so 9 places I planted.

In all my plots I try to have year round Durana or Balansa clover. I then over seed cereal grains of rye, oats and wheat in the fall.

I also over seed a "Greens mix" with Rape, Kale, turnips, radishes and sugar beets.

The clover lasts all year and hold deer all year. In over half my plots this year the clover was already fully established and maintained. The rest I just put into clover for the first time this year.

I put out a ton and a half of fertilizer as well this trip. My wife and I took 5 days at the farm getting it done and had just finished planting when the rain started Friday. Should be great timing. I cant wait to see it in a week. It was exhausting work.

I also for the first time planted a clover/alfalfa blend. Hopefully I can get it established. I used Alfalfa on 2 areas of pasture totaling around 5 to 6 acres . One plot I mixed the Alfalfa with Durana clover , the other a mixture of Balansa clover and alfalfa. I hope it comes out ok.

My strategy is to have YEAR ROUND clover and alfalfa plots so I HOLD deer. Then in fall I try to have to best variety of different stuff I over seed with as well as the best fertilized plots to keep holding the deer .

It works for me in the past so Im hoping for continued success. I have A LOT of deer using them all for sure. Deer and turkey are in the clover plots all summer long and we can see them from the farm house everyday. I feel it grows bigger bucks as well to have year round high protein food available, as well as the minerals I supplement with.