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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489944
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That’s why I’m asking….
We’re in a good place, good numbers , the three of us get along well with no drama, landowner is great to us and is well respected locally so one messes with us so I’m treading lightly to not upset the apple cart but I think it’s way overboard on this area.

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489952
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We don’t even spend $333.33 per acre on row crop wheat


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489955
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4 bags of WMS would have been plenty, might have added 5 lbs. of clover. One bag of WMS covers an acre

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: 257wbymag] #3489958
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
We don’t even spend $333.33 per acre on row crop wheat

With fertilizer included?

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489975
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With a lot of fertilizer included. Our typical wheat program runs $280-$300 an acre.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: 257wbymag] #3489985
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
With a lot of fertilizer included. Our typical wheat program runs $280-$300 an acre.


What, when and how much do you use on production wheat?

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Stoney] #3489995
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Originally Posted by Stoney
4 bags of WMS would have been plenty, might have added 5 lbs. of clover. One bag of WMS covers an acre


Not trying to be a dick but wms says 50 lbs per half acre for alabama blend

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489997
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We put down a 30-80-80 at planting typically. Then come back with 2 trips of N during winter and early spring to a total of 125-130 units of N


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Snuffy] #3490003
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Originally Posted by Snuffy
Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.

I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.

I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.

I got ladino plots also I maintain.

It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it

So what were your findings from the experiment? I’m guessing oats are preferred over everything else.


Oats and rye were about equal.

They rarely touched the wheat. Unless prices get extremely high on oats and rye I won’t plant wheat.

They actually prefer the ladino even in the winter.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #3490081
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.

I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.

I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.

I got ladino plots also I maintain.

It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it

So what were your findings from the experiment? I’m guessing oats are preferred over everything else.


Oats and rye were about equal.

They rarely touched the wheat. Unless prices get extremely high on oats and rye I won’t plant wheat.

They actually prefer the ladino even in the winter.


I've had the same luck with wheat. They'll tear up the oats. Sow it thick and hit it with N.

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3490178
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I need to say

If wheat is all I do plant in a field for some reason then they eat it

Didn’t want to sound like they won’t eat wheat.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3490261
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What about elbon rye?

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
What about elbon rye?

I use it or abruzzi a lot. I typically mix wheat, oats and either abruzzi, elbon or triticale. Throw a little crimson clover in and be done. People over complicate this. Although oats are highly preferred a few days of sub freezing temps and they’re done. I used to mix purple top turnips or dwarf essex rape. I stopped. Now dang near everything is in perennial white clover and I top sow into my clover. Clover fixes N and without constant soil disturbance P and K applications aren’t needed at such high rates.

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3490338
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I like to mix wheat, rye, and triticale plus clovers if I disc oats also.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3490345
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I planted about two acres of ladino clover early this week. I put out 100lb of elbon rye with it, just to try it. Ill see what it looks like and might add something else later. I think i put 10lb of clover seed on the two acres. Its a T&M field so i really dont know what to expect yet. Ive got plenty of time to add to it if i need to. My primary goal is some feed this hunting season and ongoing feed from here on out. We will see.
Also T&Med about two acres of yuchi arrowleaf. It was about head high when i bushhogged it.

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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3490359
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Same here. Im working towards converting half of our feilds to ladino clover for the same reasons. Planting 2 feilds in fixation clover and 2 in frosty berseem clover. First time Planting either of those .


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: ronfromramer] #3490375
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Originally Posted by Stoney
4 bags of WMS would have been plenty, might have added 5 lbs. of clover. One bag of WMS covers an acre


Not trying to be a dick but wms says 50 lbs per half acre for alabama blend

^^^this man be correct. 2 bags or 100lb/acre on the WMS

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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Originally Posted by Stoney
4 bags of WMS would have been plenty, might have added 5 lbs. of clover. One bag of WMS covers an acre


Not trying to be a dick but wms says 50 lbs per half acre for alabama blend

^^^this man be correct. 2 bags or 100lb/acre on the WMS

I’m pretty sure magnet says or said 50# to the acre. Alabama blend was 50# to the half acre. I know buck buster was 50# to the acre.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Turkey_neck] #3490468
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Originally Posted by Stoney
4 bags of WMS would have been plenty, might have added 5 lbs. of clover. One bag of WMS covers an acre


Not trying to be a dick but wms says 50 lbs per half acre for alabama blend

^^^this man be correct. 2 bags or 100lb/acre on the WMS

I’m pretty sure magnet says or said 50# to the acre. Alabama blend was 50# to the half acre. I know buck buster was 50# to the acre.


WMS Deer Magnet is 50# per acre.
WMS Alabama Blend is 100# per acre.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Mbrock] #3490543
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Clover fixes N and without constant soil disturbance P and K applications aren’t needed at such high rates.


Been 3 years now since I've added any P&K and two years since I used any N......


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