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Diy food plot mix question #3488082
09/15/21 08:49 PM
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For those of you who blend your own mixes, what is your favorite recipe and how much per acre do you use( broadcast)?We’ve been using WMS blends but it’s expensive. My opinion is we’re investing too much with expensive blends and application rates. I’d like some opinions to see where the majority opinion is. Interested in a clover/cereal grain/ barassca blend.

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I plant
50# wheat
25# triticale
5# radish
5# crimson per acre.

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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3488095
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Some feed stores will mix it for you to - think Thomasville feed had a 6 way for like $20 bucks last year - they also had 4 way - 5 way etc.

Guys in here can tell u lot more specific though

Clover my main stay - I also use some wms - my plots so small and few - I don’t hav to buy much


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3488257
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My co-op is selling a 7 way mix consisting of wheat,oats,rye, peas,radish,turnips, and crimson clover for $21/bag. Does a half acre.

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I would tailor the seed rate to the size of the field and the intensity of the grazing pressure……Smaller fields with higher grazing pressure I’d increase the stocking rates of the cereal grains……If you look up normal planting rates for things like cereal rye it ranges from 40lbs to as high as 150 lbs/acre…..As fields got larger and grazing pressure lessened I would decrease the amount of cereal grains down to the lower end and more evenly blend the mix with clover and radishes/turnips………For example if I were planting a 20 acre field I’d probably go with 50 lbs of cereal grains……2-3 lbs brassicas and 10-12 lbs of various clovers………If it were a ½ acre plot I’d probably go with 100-150 lbs of cereal grains and a pound or two of clovers with no brassicas.


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489784
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Have you considered spending the money and planting whitetail clover/fusionalfa rack in addition to cereal grains? Then come back in the spring and cut, spray for weeds and fertilize.

I usually plant a 3 or 4 way cereal grain mix, and then add in a brassica mix with it. This year of course fusion or clover is going in on all my bigger fields. That gets me out of the spring pea planting business.

Eventually I want all my fields in some sort of perennial, even the small ones.

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I take the size of the plot. I only have 3 so it’s easy. Then figure out the seeding rate for what I’m going to plant. I usually plant about 50% wheat, 20% turnips, 30% clover. So this equals 100lbs of wheat, 2-3 lbs of turnips, and about 7lbs of clover per acre times 6 acres. Broadcast the wheat out with the fertilizer. Mix the clover and turnips together and hand broad cast it on top last. With a little tweaking and record keeping, you buy the same amount of seed yearly. It will take a little time and figuring, but will save you in the long run. This is the easy part, if you don’t do your due diligence with soil testing, and getting your ph right, it won’t matter what or how much seed you throw out.

Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489804
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50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.

I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.

I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.

I got ladino plots also I maintain.

It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it

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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #3489809
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
It’s food plots, not rocket science.



It's not rocket science but it is soil science. Not "overthinking it" is why so many people do things like just go throw out 300 lbs of 13-13-13 blindly

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I broadcasted 200# of night crawlers and 50# red wigglers other day. Is that enough cnc?


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489827
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That'll probably work......I'd have waited until turkey season though. wink


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489828
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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: AlabamaSwamper] #3489836
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Originally Posted by AlabamaSwamper
50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.

I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.

I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.

I got ladino plots also I maintain.

It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it

So what were your findings from the experiment? I’m guessing oats are preferred over everything else.


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When I did that experiment I found that oats were preferred early on and then it kinda split between oats and cereal rye later in the year......wheat was last but it also wasnt growing as well in my sand at the time....Oats were definitely there preferred early draw though

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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489854
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I really like oats. Unfortunately in North Alabama they will freeze with a few cool nights in a row. I planted triticale and radishes this fall but I may over seed with some rye. I love Buck forage oats but they have gotten to expensive for me.

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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489861
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I'm sure many people have good luck with wheat but the problem with it is that it is finicky compared to the other cereal grains.....it's more likely to run N deficient and yellow, etc........Grown in ideal conditions with a lot of nitrogen then it may preform just as well as anything else or better but in less than ideal conditions it doesnt compete as well with oats and especially cereal rye

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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489874
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We make 100plus bushel wheat up here. It’s hardly finicky


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489908
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Not overthinking, just trying to see what the majority opinion says. The other lease holders think we’re doing fine but I think we’re over doing by a great deal. For instance- 12 bags of wms blends and 4 bags of rye mixed in were used on 4 plots. Using onX map tools on two separate occasions, the plots total about 3 acres. Adding in the fertilizer and we spent almost a grand on 3acres.

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Originally Posted by Wapiti55
Not overthinking, just trying to see what the majority opinion says. The other lease holders think we’re doing fine but I think we’re over doing by a great deal. For instance- 12 bags of wms blends and 4 bags of rye mixed in were used on 4 plots. Using onX map tools on two separate occasions, the plots total about 3 acres. Adding in the fertilizer and we spent almost a grand on 3acres.



Holy chit batman......


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Re: Diy food plot mix question [Re: Wapiti55] #3489943
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That is overkill. I plant on the heavy side because of high deer density. We plant 150 lbs cereal grains with 200 lbs trip 17 and 10 lbs of annual clover per acre. Add nitrogen in December. At these inflated prices we have now, still less than $150 per acre

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