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Thumb release #3487071
09/14/21 07:46 PM
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Those of you that shoot thumb releases, which ones do you prefer? Is it just personal preference or do you feel it helps you shoot better.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3487090
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Carter makes the best thumb trigger releases in my opinion. I use a 4 finger Chocolate Lite. I shoot hand held releases just as well and index finger wrist releases. In the stand it’s nice to be able to clip your release on your d-loop when you hang your bow up and not have to sit there with a wrist strap on.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3487097
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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3487277
09/15/21 06:33 AM
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I really have enjoyed my TruBall Fang thumb release. For sure makes me more accurate , like Shaw said it just hangs on the D loop which is nice

Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3498325
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I've been through a number of brands and didn't really have any negative experiences with any of them. Carter, Stan, Scott, and now I am shooting a B3 Omega (three finger).

Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3498783
10/01/21 08:51 AM
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Do you have to change the length of your D-loop or anything when switching to a thumb release? Like would it be a bad idea for me to go buy one right before season starts? I've been thinking about switching over for a while now because I hate wearing a strap release in the stand.

Re: Thumb release [Re: Coosa1] #3498841
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Originally Posted by Coosa1

Do you have to change the length of your D-loop or anything when switching to a thumb release? Like would it be a bad idea for me to go buy one right before season starts? I've been thinking about switching over for a while now because I hate wearing a strap release in the stand.


I didn't change anything. I love the way it draws and like Shaw said, it's nice to clip on when in stand. I got one to try when I started trigger punching and would sling one who knows where. I like mine.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Coosa1] #3498855
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Originally Posted by Coosa1

Do you have to change the length of your D-loop or anything when switching to a thumb release? Like would it be a bad idea for me to go buy one right before season starts? I've been thinking about switching over for a while now because I hate wearing a strap release in the stand.


Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Depends on the length of the release. Some people have to adjust their peep height as well. I can swap between my Carter and a Scott wrist release without either changing for me.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3499113
10/01/21 05:11 PM
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I wanted to use one for the convenience, but never could make it work for me.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3500429
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One its slightly easier to draw.two it helps with good form cause your pulling back through your shot instead of creeping forward possibly to pull trigger.

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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3500462
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I ordered a Chocolate Lite to try out, should be here this week sometime

Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3500601
10/04/21 01:34 AM
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I shoot a Carter nock 2 it release most of the time. It's a two finger release and it seems to give me a little more control of the shot. If I need to command my shot I'll switch to a Scott ghost wrist strap release but if I start having any target panic I'll go to my Stans prefex pull through release. Like Shaw, I can swap back and forth between the Carter and the Scott releases without having to change anything, but with the Stans I tend to hit about an inch left and 1.5 inches high. I think it's because I'm having to put more pressure on the bow to get the release to go off.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: sluggun] #3501317
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Originally Posted by sluggun
I shoot a Carter nock 2 it release most of the time. It's a two finger release and it seems to give me a little more control of the shot. If I need to command my shot I'll switch to a Scott ghost wrist strap release but if I start having any target panic I'll go to my Stans prefex pull through release. Like Shaw, I can swap back and forth between the Carter and the Scott releases without having to change anything, but with the Stans I tend to hit about an inch left and 1.5 inches high. I think it's because I'm having to put more pressure on the bow to get the release to go off.

Try creep tuning your bow it will get rid of vertical groups from creeping forward or pulling harder into your shot.i feel this has been best tuning I can do to my bows to tighten up groups besides form and other methods of tuning my bow.basically it puts your cam starting rotation at perfect spot so if you creep forward slightly or pull harder into shot you don't get vertical spread on your groups

Re: Thumb release [Re: mauvilla] #3501318
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Originally Posted by mauvilla
I really have enjoyed my TruBall Fang thumb release. For sure makes me more accurate , like Shaw said it just hangs on the D loop which is nice

I used to do this until I pulled my bow up to discover my release was on ground now I put it in my pocket while climbing ....problem solved

Re: Thumb release [Re: 3% outdoorsman] #3504331
10/09/21 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by sluggun
I shoot a Carter nock 2 it release most of the time. It's a two finger release and it seems to give me a little more control of the shot. If I need to command my shot I'll switch to a Scott ghost wrist strap release but if I start having any target panic I'll go to my Stans prefex pull through release. Like Shaw, I can swap back and forth between the Carter and the Scott releases without having to change anything, but with the Stans I tend to hit about an inch left and 1.5 inches high. I think it's because I'm having to put more pressure on the bow to get the release to go off.

Try creep tuning your bow it will get rid of vertical groups from creeping forward or pulling harder into your shot.i feel this has been best tuning I can do to my bows to tighten up groups besides form and other methods of tuning my bow.basically it puts your cam starting rotation at perfect spot so if you creep forward slightly or pull harder into shot you don't get vertical spread on your groups

Trust me, my bow is tuned. The difference between the Stans and the Carter or Scott is that I'm putting 1.5 pounds more pressure on the limbs of the bow to get the pull through release to go off.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3504362
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I use a Stan Just X, because it has a short neck on it, and I'm a short draw archer. Experts say the short neck won't help you pull a longer draw length, but it sure seems to help me. Been using it for years. I bought a Scott Little Goose wrist strap this summer just to see if I was missing anything. I'm still using the Stan.

Re: Thumb release [Re: sluggun] #3504367
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Originally Posted by sluggun
Originally Posted by 3% outdoorsman
Originally Posted by sluggun
I shoot a Carter nock 2 it release most of the time. It's a two finger release and it seems to give me a little more control of the shot. If I need to command my shot I'll switch to a Scott ghost wrist strap release but if I start having any target panic I'll go to my Stans prefex pull through release. Like Shaw, I can swap back and forth between the Carter and the Scott releases without having to change anything, but with the Stans I tend to hit about an inch left and 1.5 inches high. I think it's because I'm having to put more pressure on the bow to get the release to go off.

Try creep tuning your bow it will get rid of vertical groups from creeping forward or pulling harder into your shot.i feel this has been best tuning I can do to my bows to tighten up groups besides form and other methods of tuning my bow.basically it puts your cam starting rotation at perfect spot so if you creep forward slightly or pull harder into shot you don't get vertical spread on your groups

Trust me, my bow is tuned. The difference between the Stans and the Carter or Scott is that I'm putting 1.5 pounds more pressure on the limbs of the bow to get the pull through release to go off.

Well that's exactly what I'm saying it will eliminate.

Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3504788
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Pressure of string on your face and anchor point change from different release will cause the left and right POI change

Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3505064
10/10/21 09:48 AM
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This got me to thinking, why does the Stans release (pull through) hit slightly high left from the Carter (thumb) and Scott release (wrist strap). So yesterday I tried all three release to see if I could determine if it was because the Stans was putting more pressure on the limbs causing it or if it was the design changing my anchor point. I shot 3 shots with each release at the same spot at 20 yards with the first shot at my normal anchor point, second shot while pulling hard on the back wall and third shot creeping just barely off the cable stops. The Carter and Scott releases hit right behind the pin on every shot. The Stans, being a pull through keeps you at the same pressure on the back wall so you can't creep off the stops, groups about 1.5 inches high and 1 inch left. I thought maybe the Stans was causing me to put more of the heel of the palm of my hand into the grip but if that were the case I would have been doing it with the other releases when I was holding back hard with them. It must be the design changing my anchor point slightly. All I know is that if I want to swap to the Stans all I have to do is take one yard off my dial and put 4 clicks left and I'm dead on. Normally I don't shoot groups from this close to keep from messing up my arrows, so now I'll be refletching an arrow this afternoon.


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Re: Thumb release [Re: Haybale] #3505244
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Your probably right and that would be the easy answer.pretty close on poi. I wouldn't sweat it
I'll put a piece of tape on target horizontal with a level the shoot a group pulling extra hard into wall then I'll shoot three more arrows creeped forward.if on same plane all is good but if an inch or two difference vertical wise between groups I'll add or remove a twist then repeat till it's gone.then I can always restring my bow to real close perfect cam starting rotation.i think you can tiller tune and have similar results but haven't played with that to much.
I bought a bow press and spent way way to many late night shooting in my basement and tweaking bow string to shoot four blade broadheads with field points and bareshaft tuning and on and on.setting 3rd axis on sight.uhhgg I'm way to OCD but dang it's fun sometimes then again it tends to make work out of something that don't make a hill of beans

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