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Re: No decoys until [Re: Double Down] #3477450
09/01/21 07:36 PM
09/01/21 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Down
I happen to live in a area of the state where up until about 15 years ago, I thought that the turkey population and hunting was second to none. Couldn’t possibly be any better. Now, with a exception of some small, isolated pockets, I live in a turkey desert. I have racked my brain trying to figure out what’s changed to cause such a drastic decline in my neck of the woods where other parts of the state haven’t.
I try not to be overly critical with decisions pertaining to this because I want to believe that they are doing their best with what information they have at the time but I guess time will tell. The one thing that really bothers me and I know it has to do with the “Almighty Dollar” is why doesn’t the CAB limit nonresidents first then if that doesn’t improve the population cut back on the resident hunting. Just my opinion.

15 years ago is when decoys became legal.


"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
Re: No decoys until [Re: sportrep] #3477686
09/02/21 05:40 AM
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Does the decoy ban on the first 10 days also include the youth hunt? With this dominant theory crap why even have a youth hunt since almost no hens are bred?

Re: No decoys until [Re: OlTimer] #3479100
09/03/21 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OlTimer
Does the decoy ban on the first 10 days also include the youth hunt? With this dominant theory crap why even have a youth hunt since almost no hens are bred?


All of ours will be bred before next years youth hunt seeing how late it will be now.

Re: No decoys until [Re: sportrep] #3481346
09/07/21 11:48 AM
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I've got a few friends that "hunt turkeys" use that term loosely. They sit on a chufa plot with a decoy and wait till one comes in range. I think this is the folks that will be affected the most. I don't even own a decoy so it won't change anything for me.


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Re: No decoys until [Re: sportrep] #3481706
09/07/21 07:41 PM
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Heck, if they're sitting on a chufa plot why would they need a decoy.

Re: No decoys until [Re: OlTimer] #3481886
09/08/21 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OlTimer
Does the decoy ban on the first 10 days also include the youth hunt? With this dominant theory crap why even have a youth hunt since almost no hens are bred?

Why have a youth hunt regardless, take the kids with you on every hunt!

Re: No decoys until [Re: sportrep] #3540346
11/27/21 05:35 AM
11/27/21 05:35 AM
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As a new member, ya'll are gettin' toward the points that bring out some of the reasons and issues. Dumbazzes don't kill many birds legally, they just shoot the birds off of food plots during deer season from off of the ground shooting houses. I've got relatives (most are dead) who would kill any turkey moving no matter when or where with whatever, even baiting them. One person spot lighted them out of trees. A kid at Walmart bragged that he shot a bird during deer season off of a food plot. That is one problem that the State will not admit. Out of state hunters will deal with the decoy ban, for they come early to Alabama's early season before their season starts. Example: Oakmug WMA was loaded with hunters from Ark. Public lands are gettin' murdered with large numbers of hunters early with declining birds. Strange, when people show up, birds numbers goes down. I wonder why? Environmental conditions are going to get worse and survival rates are not going to improve. What to do?......... Alabama hunters should be first inline for access to the birds. Out of state hunters with one bird limit imposed for private land only, no public hunting for them. Limits for in state hunters should be dropped, limit one public bird, two per season until numbers increase. Bring back the decoys but mess with public lands rules first to see what works, then look at private lands. This is to see if the "theory on dominate birds" works, what a joke! Everybody knows that a lot of hens are bred by secondary birds who sneak in. I have a question? Was Joe Biden at the meetings?

Re: No decoys until [Re: sportrep] #3541844
11/29/21 06:42 AM
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None of these strategies the state has implemented will work
The predator population must be controlled before the turkey population can thrive
I've seen this work too many times and am seeing the predator control method work again after just 3 seasons with a huge turn around in the turkey population where i hunt
Guys we got to work to elect a Governor that will fire this senseless crew that currently reside over our game and fish dept or if there is a way to get this job changed to a elected position rather than a appointed one then thats the route we need to go


When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
Re: No decoys until [Re: deadeye48] #3542510
11/29/21 08:33 PM
11/29/21 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
None of these strategies the state has implemented will work
The predator population must be controlled before the turkey population can thrive
I've seen this work too many times and am seeing the predator control method work again after just 3 seasons with a huge turn around in the turkey population where i hunt
Guys we got to work to elect a Governor that will fire this senseless crew that currently reside over our game and fish dept or if there is a way to get this job changed to a elected position rather than a appointed one then thats the route we need to go

Would coons be at the top of the list?


"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
Re: No decoys until [Re: NorthAlabama] #3542703
11/30/21 12:04 AM
11/30/21 12:04 AM
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Louisiana/Clarke
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Originally Posted by NorthAlabama
As a new member, ya'll are gettin' toward the points that bring out some of the reasons and issues. Dumbazzes don't kill many birds legally, they just shoot the birds off of food plots during deer season from off of the ground shooting houses. I've got relatives (most are dead) who would kill any turkey moving no matter when or where with whatever, even baiting them. One person spot lighted them out of trees. A kid at Walmart bragged that he shot a bird during deer season off of a food plot. That is one problem that the State will not admit. Out of state hunters will deal with the decoy ban, for they come early to Alabama's early season before their season starts. Example: Oakmug WMA was loaded with hunters from Ark. Public lands are gettin' murdered with large numbers of hunters early with declining birds. Strange, when people show up, birds numbers goes down. I wonder why? Environmental conditions are going to get worse and survival rates are not going to improve. What to do?......... Alabama hunters should be first inline for access to the birds. Out of state hunters with one bird limit imposed for private land only, no public hunting for them. Limits for in state hunters should be dropped, limit one public bird, two per season until numbers increase. Bring back the decoys but mess with public lands rules first to see what works, then look at private lands. This is to see if the "theory on dominate birds" works, what a joke! Everybody knows that a lot of hens are bred by secondary birds who sneak in. I have a question? Was Joe Biden at the meetings?

So your saying that because I live in another state but own land in Al and pay property taxes I should have a diff limit? I already pay an azz load on a license where if I lived in Al I wouldn’t even have to buy on.

Re: No decoys until [Re: sportrep] #3546409
12/05/21 05:38 AM
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Spec, your lucky. I sold land in another state because they would not let me hunt my own land for free, because I did not pay that state enough taxes. Different limit? Same limit for everybody on private land...........Alabama hunters beware, a quota system must be used in the future if the number of birds keep dropping with higher hunter pressure, esp on public lands. How would you feel if you were forced to skip a season, and allow an out of state hunter to take your place on public land?

Re: No decoys until [Re: ridgestalker] #3546537
12/05/21 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Originally Posted by deadeye48
None of these strategies the state has implemented will work
The predator population must be controlled before the turkey population can thrive
I've seen this work too many times and am seeing the predator control method work again after just 3 seasons with a huge turn around in the turkey population where i hunt
Guys we got to work to elect a Governor that will fire this senseless crew that currently reside over our game and fish dept or if there is a way to get this job changed to a elected position rather than a appointed one then thats the route we need to go

Would coons be at the top of the list?


Coons are absolutely #1 on the hit list then followed by coyotes, hogs, possums, bobcats, foxes
They all prey on turkeys and I will not give any of these a pass even if it means messing up a hunt
Come February I’ll turn the burners wide open with approximately 50-70 sets waiting for a foot to enter


When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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