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Question on turkey #'s
#3460594
08/11/21 08:03 AM
08/11/21 08:03 AM
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Posts: 5,743 Lower AL
k bush
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If I remember correctly, when everyone was concerned about the duck numbers crashing they started working on habitat in the prairie pothole region and trapping nest predators along with season length and limit modifications. Why hasn't this bled over into turkey management ? You would think the turkey conservation groups would be doing a lot more to ensure good nesting and brood habitat on public/private lands.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: k bush]
#3460625
08/11/21 08:57 AM
08/11/21 08:57 AM
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Posts: 36,172 alabama
BhamFred
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because it is easier to listen to assholes that want to lower limits and move dates. A LOT easier than improving habitat.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: k bush]
#3460767
08/11/21 01:02 PM
08/11/21 01:02 PM
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Posts: 5,002 Covington County
Squeaky
12 point
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Kendall what Mr. Fred posted is spot on!! It is always easier and cheaper to make changes with the stroke of a pen!! Anything outside of that takes effort and money.
I think every state game and fish commissioners should be tarred and feathered if they promoted a natural resource to be raped and pillaged as we have witnessed the last two years. I know THP has promoted Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama public land resources heavily and had backing from those three state game and fish commissioners. I am sure there are more, but I know for a fact those three were highly promoted in youtube videos. What a lot or people fail to realize, is this extra money they are advocating for is rarely or will be utilized to reverse the damage they have knowingly caused to the resource and the local hunters of those states. As Dave pointed out, these state agencies knew the SE was in a declining cycle with our turkey population and still jumped on the band wagon. It's truly a shame that some of these folks are in charge of state wildlife management. If there was ever any doubt in someone's mind where the leadership of these state agencies principles fall, this should answer that question clearly. It's all about generating money with very little, if any investment back into the resource. It's a proven fact throughout our state when you look at how our WMA's are managed. I hope I am proven wrong in the future, but I have my doubts.
Last edited by Squeaky; 08/11/21 01:03 PM.
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: k bush]
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08/11/21 05:03 PM
08/11/21 05:03 PM
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deadeye48
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Squeaky I don’t believe you’ll be proved wrong under this current regime Said this many times I grew up in what is mulberry fork wma I hunted this place all my growing up years and always had guys all over that place running traps and coon hunting Was nothing to see 25-30 turkeys in one flock and deer were abundant Fast forward Mulberry Fork wma is established No more trapping, no more coon hunting, coyote and coon population of explode, hog begin taking over every square foot of that wma Deer and turkey population begin a sharp decline that is still happening today A testament of the state’s ability to manage land and game
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: Spec]
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08/11/21 06:35 PM
08/11/21 06:35 PM
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Posts: 9,798 North Jackson
ridgestalker
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Best 3 years of poults we’ve ever had. Heard turkeys gobble on every I hunt except 1 in the last 2 years. Now some mornings I might have only heard 1-2 gobbles but they were gobbles. It’s not what it once was but a lot better than 10-12 years ago. Wish you were closer.
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: k bush]
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08/12/21 02:19 PM
08/12/21 02:19 PM
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Posts: 5,743 Lower AL
k bush
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Found a podcast today from May 27, 2020 Huntin Land Podcast by Joe Baya and his guest is the all knowing Chuck Sykes. Believe it or not, he advocates habitat management and nest predator control, go to about the 43 minute mark. He even says they're doing prescribed fire on WMA's and SOA's. I don't frequent any of the WMA properties so I can't agree or disagree on what they're doing. But at least he knows what they SHOULD be doing.
Also, chufa is good because it provides a nutrient dense food for adults during a time that is generally lacking. But it's just one piece of the puzzle and chufa alone will not make you successful at raising turkeys.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: ridgestalker]
#3462540
08/13/21 05:16 PM
08/13/21 05:16 PM
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Posts: 1,467 Louisiana/Clarke
Spec
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Best 3 years of poults we’ve ever had. Heard turkeys gobble on every I hunt except 1 in the last 2 years. Now some mornings I might have only heard 1-2 gobbles but they were gobbles. It’s not what it once was but a lot better than 10-12 years ago. Wish you were closer. This is the n Clarke County
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: Spec]
#3462551
08/13/21 05:37 PM
08/13/21 05:37 PM
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Posts: 5,743 Lower AL
k bush
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Best 3 years of poults we’ve ever had. Heard turkeys gobble on every I hunt except 1 in the last 2 years. Now some mornings I might have only heard 1-2 gobbles but they were gobbles. It’s not what it once was but a lot better than 10-12 years ago. Wish you were closer. This is the n Clarke County Quit joking, there are no turkeys in Clarke Co.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: cgardner]
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08/15/21 08:34 PM
08/15/21 08:34 PM
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poorcountrypreacher
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I’ve seen poults every where this summer. Still getting 10-15 different long beards on camera on our GA property. I can’t tell you the last time I went turkey hunting and didn’t hear multiple birds gobble. I just think they are catering to the hunters that suck at turkey hunting trying to make it seem more fair for them. Turkey hunting socialism. More turkeys than ever on the 3 counties I hunt. I had never seen a group of more than 50 young turkeys together before last year. Manage your land right and you will have turkeys; convert your land into a shopping mall and you won't. Legit hunting doesn't affect either scenario.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Question on turkey #'s
[Re: k bush]
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08/15/21 08:53 PM
08/15/21 08:53 PM
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Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
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Boo Boo Head
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My new hunting grounds are in NW GA. I’ve never seen turkey numbers like some of the farms I’ve acquired have. It’s incredible
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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