Good grief!! Thats a lot of deer. On my small fields I have watched 3 or 4 wear it out in a week. But that usually doesn't happen until August.

It’s a ton of deer. Use to b a member at awesome place in Marengo county where u could see anywhere from 5-30 and hardly ever got shut out
Think my density in Clarke county now is close to right though. I see anywhere from 0 to 3-5. my Camden spot way to many - can see 10-15 per sit and I Will try to thin out does there after I try to kill mature deer there this year

If the dogs would quit running them, we had got it to where we would see 20-25 in an evening at times. Not every time. But you could count on seeing over 10 about every evening. Dang dogs squashed that last year. Plenty of days we didnt see any. Had dogs run deer out of the field five different times that i saw. I hope this new bunch of dogs dont run deer like that last bunch did.

I always load my fall plots up with durana and patriot clovers and I've had a great luck with summer food plots. Durana has a high stolon count and it's so thick it will help to keep weeds at bay. I T&M so I dont have as many weeds because I'm not disturbing the weed seed bank.

I like Whitetail Fusion. I have 3 fields in it, and one in straight whitetail clover. They are the fields right now I see deer stay in and eat for more than a few minutes, often for 20 or 30.

What I have found with clover is you probably need to cut it right after turkey season, or any residual winter crops with it as well, and then fertilize it. Then wait and cut it again in June before you are going to get some rain and then leave it. I have a field right now that has clay peas, soybeans, sunn hemp, buckwheat and plot spike clover in it. They are eating the peas/beans some, but they are really eating the clover the best from what I can tell. The big thing is the beans and peas are still somewhat covered by the sunn hemp and buckwheat. And all the cereal grains I cut with the flail mower are doing a better job of keeping weeds down that if I had gone in there and disked.

My 3 fusion plots have all thickened up dramatically just by cutting them a couple times and fertilizing them. I think you would be surprised if you got out and really sprayed an area good and then plant clover in it, how little you really had to do to maintain it. I got over 50 pics last night of 2 bucks in one of my fusion plots. They were in it for over 30 minutes feeding and several of the shots where them eating either chickory or some volunteer brassicas from the fall. I have 4 doe's that stay in my whitetail clover plot for a long time like that too. But when you go look at it, its not pounded looking.

I planted mine in the fall with some sort of cereal grains and bassicas. Or No Plow. Hit it with triple 17 and watch.

My clover mix from the fall plots does really great up until about June, the heat just takes it out. Wish I could get it to last thru the summer. This past fall I did crimson, fixation, ball and frosty berseem in my mix.

I just cut my whitetail fusion plots saturday. When I look at them or walk around them, I can't tell how much traffic is on them, but when I start cutting, I can see for sure. They do fine as long as we get some good rain. The PlotSpike clover mix from TS is good too. Its' doing really well on the side of my biggest green field, that I would say is pretty crusty. Stuff just doesn't really grow well over there, but this stuff seems to. And the deer have kept it mowed.

What I think helps it though is I cut the fall cereal grains with a flail mower, and that left a really good covering of "mulch" so that helps hold in some of the moisture, not that we are lacking for rain as of late. I also noticed the alfalfa from the 1 bag of alfa rack I spread around a couple of fields was stating to come in pretty good too.

Two of my fusion plots I ripped up with a subsoiler last fall before I planted them. They are doing pretty good. The clover seems to spread when you cut them for whatever reason. Try some whitetail clover, plant it in the fall, with some cereal grains, and then in the spring mow it and add some 0-20-20 fertilizer. The other field I just disked and I notice the fusion but more particularily the clover in it was spreading into the parts of the field that I have struggled to get to grow anything. If you have a spot that gets a ton of direct sunlight, try fusion or alfa rack.

If your not using durana, you dont know what your missing. It's a lot more drought tolerant perennial than ladino and spreads better.

I have looked at Durana. I was reading something online where a guy compared Durana to Whitetail clover and said the deer preferred the whitetail clover more. Wether that is true or not I don't know, I would have to try some and see how it does.

I do know they like the Plotspike from TS and its only 16.99 and that is pure seed, not coated like Whitetail. I haven't seen Durana where I could look at the label and see what the contents are.

The biggest thing to me is it seems Durana is 1 clover, whereas the whitetail or PS are multiple varieties. I just ordered innoculant to do 50 pounds of clover, so we shall see how that does with the PS this fall.

Durana is durana clover nothing else. When your buying durana, all your money goes towards durana clover. When you buy whitetail institute blends, your paying a high price per pound, but your not getting a pound of the ladino clover. Your getting cheaper seeds in with it. I've used WI seed many times and it's high quality. I've found that durana does better late summer. Nothing wrong with using both. Both were scientifically created.

Blumsden you got a PM

I ordered a bag of durana so we shall see what happens. I also ordered clover innoculent for the Plotspike clover from TS. So thinking I may just mix all 3 together and see what happens. I have been really happy with Imperial Clover, and so far, since this is my first year with it, the PS from TS is doing well and getting pounded as well.

One of the things I have noticed about both that I am using is the clover tends to fill in the spots of the field that typically don't grow as well with other crops.

Or I may plant all 3 on a field separated and watch and see what happens. I am not sure why when you watch a youtube they talk about having to maintain clover is such a bad thing, especially compared to having to run out and bush hog, disk, spray and plant peas/beans in the spring and then come back in the fall and plant something else.

How much was the durana Lockjaw?

It was about 40 bucks from amazon. It is like Whitetail clover though, it comes with a seed coating, So its probably only about 3 or 3.5 pounds of seed.

I am going to plant it this fall and see what I think. I do know the deer like Whitetail clover and Plotspike on my lease, so I don't expect they won't like this either. I am getting frustrated with the peas/beans too. I don't really have a big enough field to grow enough of them to keep them from mowing the field. They don't regenerate as quickly as clover seems to. It seems with the peas, they sort of leave them alone for a while, and then they hit them and they are all gone in a couple weeks. Then I don't have anything left to feed them.

When I looked at my main field that has plot spike clover on it saturday, the clover is low, but as you move towards the center where I have other stuff that gives the clover cover, its much taller. Judging by the number of stems I see with no leaves, it looks like they are eating it pretty hot and heavy.

So I think for next year, the chances of me planting anything in the spring is pretty low. I will just get clover established this fall, and cut and maintain it in the spring.

I have a patch of durana that is about 10 years old. It likes some shade in late summer.