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Re: Dang deer [Re: TDog93] #3439821
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Originally Posted by TDog93
Man - I am ready - what all u gone plant this fall 257?


50/50 wheat triticale
Crimson clover
Sodbuster radish.

My normal


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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3439827
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Thanks - I need to put some triticale in mine - it gets great reviews

I hav been fancy planting several diff clovers but I had the old forester who is also a highly successful big buck killer tell me for Bama climate - crimson probably about the best performer and producer


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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3439830
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I’m not planting so much for deer food as I am the benefits of N fixation it gives my wheat/triticale for seed production in the spring


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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3439838
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I planted a penington seed blend and heavily overseed with a perineal clover. This just happens to be ladino but others work good as well.


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Re: Dang deer [Re: sanderson] #3439839
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Originally Posted by sanderson
Looks like clover

Yeah but what kind?

Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3439841
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Will the ladino grow all summer and winter?

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Yes for about 8-10 years if you play your cards right and mow it when needed. I don’t do that though. I just like having a lot of clover in the fields during turkey season Incase I decide to go hunting. I get one year out of it from mid September to mid September when I plant fall plots.

I do however feel that there are other plants that deer would prefer over the clover but you can kinda kill two birds with one stone by planting it.

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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3439864
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Ive got a field of crimson that does really good but its gone right now. I need something for summer the deer wont destroy. I might plant that three acres in ladino this fall, unless theres a better option?

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Arrow leaf is great as well jwalker


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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3440110
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Mix in several clover varieties with your fall mix (crimson, arrowleaf, ladino, balansa, etc) and then just let it ride during the summer like hayman is doing........or maybe mow once or twice during the summer......Do it over again the following fall......

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I planted sorghum and peas. The deer have hammered the peas but now the grain sorghum is waist high so they are laying off of the peas some now. I’m hoping the grain sorghum heads out here soon so the deer and turkey can eat the seed head of them. Hopefully I can leave some standing and have some good dove shoots

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Keep an eye out for sugarcane aphids on that grain sorghum. They can ruin it pretty quick


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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3440165
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Ive got a field of crimson that does really good but its gone right now. I need something for summer the deer wont destroy. I might plant that three acres in ladino this fall, unless theres a better option?


If I were gonna plant something in the summer that would help the soil and the deer would moderately browse on it would be millet. It's a small seed that is very easy to establish and will provide good ground cover and carbon production......We used it for erosion control on some dirt work and it did great that way too.

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Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3440210
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I planted milo a few times. Seemed to attract more blackbirds than anything else. Thinking i might try one of them clover mixes this fall. Trying to go to stuff thats better for the ground and easier on me. This is the first year the deer have destroyed my iron clay peas. They usually let them get up about knee-high before they start on them. Time to move on to something else.

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This was the millet we used for erosion control…….It’s a lot more grassy than something like milo…….

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Re: Dang deer [Re: 257wbymag] #3440261
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Keep an eye out for sugarcane aphids on that grain sorghum. They can ruin it pretty quick

Good tip thank you. I didn’t know that

Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3440264
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I planted brown top on some areas and rds where we did some some work and it looks like those pictures cnc gonna make for some fine dove hunting

Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3440287
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I am curious if you have deer pounding buckwheat if you either don't have other good natural forage around, or your density is super high?

Reason I ask is buckwheat is the cover I use to keep the deer from eating the peas/beans. And it works pretty good. In my field I think has hardpan (the edges do) I planted buckwheat, soybeans, sunn hemp and clay peas. It has a good stand of clover on one side of it, just the Plotspike brand from TS, and the deer are eating it pretty well. I can see they are eating the peas a little. But at my place they really don't hammer clay peas until august anyway. It's about half an acre. And it has a really good stand of volunteer brassicas, I guess they reseeded before I cut the field.

I was out there this am looking at it, where I ran the subsoiler around it less than a week ago, and there are alot of deer tracks in and out of the field. So I know deer are using it, but they aren't able to mow it.

I did watch a youtube about sunn hemp this week too. Guy said sunn hemp provides more biomass, and more nitrogen fixation that beans. And it has tanins which are beneficial for deer digestion.

All I know is if its not a half acre or bigger field, it's going to get planted in Whitetail fusion or some sort of clover blend.

Re: Dang deer [Re: jwalker77] #3440291
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Lockjaw he sees over 40 deer in a 40acre field at a time sometimes. Is that high density?

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My density is super high. We got hit with EHD bad in 2016. Grew some summer food in 17 but since the herd rebounded so well and fast the mouths are there. It’s not uncommon to see 20+ every afternoon. On real good sits 40+ is easy. And that’s on my 40 acres. I’ll be texting with the neighbors and they’ll be seeing same type numbers on same days.


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