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2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... #3378932
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I thought I would do something different on here, since I've cooked, ate and posted just about one of everything that you can make in a home kitchen on here over the years. grin

The goal here is to lose fat, lean out my body and retain as much muscle mass as possible. I'm 60, I eat pretty healthy with very few processed, high fat, high sodium, high sugar foods as possible. I drink no soft drinks, eat no sugary snacks, and generally stick to 3 meals a day. I guess my biggest vices in the dietary area is that I like beer, wine and booze. Those are empty calories, so I'm going to have to cut back to the recommended two a day or less.

I have consulted a few TDEE calculators online and according to the average I have determined that I need 3000 calories a day to maintain. I'm a pretty athletic guy for 60. I'm 5'-11" 200# and according to my body fat calipers I am about 18% body fat. I lift 3x per week M/W/F with a full body workout focusing on compound exercises such as: Squats, deadlifts, bench, push press, hang cleans, rows, pull-ups, etc...

I have looked back over my records and I have maintained right at 200 pounds for a couple of years now and you guys see what I eat.

So I have enlisted the help of Myfitnesspal to start tracking my calories and I will start out with 2500 a day in order to lean out. I'm shooting for about 40% carbs, 30% protein & 30% good fats.

Let's see if I can still eat good, stay healthy and get lean at 2500 calories a day.

Breakfast this morning = 540 calories

4 slices Black forest ham
2 eggs
sliced avocado
sliced tomato
2 slices Aldi Organic grain bread

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I'm sitting here starving. Sure wish I had that sitting in front of me.

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Originally Posted by bald347
I'm sitting here starving. Sure wish I had that sitting in front of me.


It was really good. The avocados really are good with just salt and pepper. I'm surprised how much I like them.

Stay tuned for lunch. grin

Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: Irishguy] #3378958
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Man, avocado is my favorite fruit on earth! I’ll eat just about any way but love it plain as well. I’ll slice one in half and fill with nuts and eat it out of the hull. Great for a small lunch. I wish you luck on your goal. I am focused on the same thing. Lean out. I did notice that many of your dishes include bread. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know but those are extra crap calories that you can do without and it helps greatly on leaning out. Now, what’s for lunch?? Mine will be salad!


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Have you tried the zero net carb bread from Aldi? It's not bad to me and almost seems heavier, it sticks with you for a while.

Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: nomercy] #3378967
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Originally Posted by nomercy
Man, avocado is my favorite fruit on earth! I’ll eat just about any way but love it plain as well. I’ll slice one in half and fill with nuts and eat it out of the hull. Great for a small lunch. I wish you luck on your goal. I am focused on the same thing. Lean out. I did notice that many of your dishes include bread. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know but those are extra crap calories that you can do without and it helps greatly on leaning out. Now, what’s for lunch?? Mine will be salad!


Thanks for the well wishes. I'm not really trying to lose weight, just lean out a little. I'm pretty much eliminating "bad" bread, but I will continue to eat "Healty" breads like seed breads such as Dave's, etc...

I have no interest in going "Low Carb." I've been wondering how long it will take the Low Carb people to show up and tell me I'm doing it all wrong. (Not talking about you.) Just people in general.

The funny thing with dieting, exercise, motor oil, truck tires, etc... Everyone always thinks the decision that they made is the best. And that's perfectly normal. Lots of them think that the decision they made is best for you too... grin Lots of dieting "experts" out there, but few of them look good in a swim suit to members of the opposite sex.. grin

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Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: aubigmac] #3378974
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Originally Posted by aubigmac
Have you tried the zero net carb bread from Aldi? It's not bad to me and almost seems heavier, it sticks with you for a while.


I haven't, but I'll tell you I think I personally need carbs in my diet. I've tried low carb and it wasn't for me. Everyone's body is different.

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Everyone is different. While deployed I’ve gone from 220 to 193lbs of solid muscle. Still showed not one ab!! Frustrated the crap out of me for awhile. I’m just not built that way.
You gotta eat carbs. Carbs equal energy. Feed the Machine is what we say. I personally just try to stay way from too many simple carbs.


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Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: nomercy] #3378981
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Originally Posted by nomercy
Everyone is different. While deployed I’ve gone from 220 to 193lbs of solid muscle. Still showed not one ab!! Frustrated the crap out of me for awhile. I’m just not built that way.
You gotta eat carbs. Carbs equal energy. Feed the Machine is what we say. I personally just try to stay way from too many simple carbs.


I agree 100%. There are good carbs and bad carbs. Just like there are good fats and bad fats. Same with proteins.

Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: Irishguy] #3379009
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I'm 55 and about the same height and weight.
I made a push last year to get in as good a shape as I was when 35. Came very close with what I could do working max. weights, not so much on running, and found recovery was a lot tougher. But I was doing pretty good. The one thing I found was lots, lots, and lots of water to keep hydrated and it seemed to help my body utilize the foods I ate and recovery time. SLEEP

Then Feb. Covid hit and I'm just getting back on the workout wagon.
I'm eating lots of fruits, nuts sparingly, meat, spinach salads. Just need to watch my artificial sugars. Wife buys the junk.

To me eggs, avocados, meats (not processed), all good, I have tried to cut out some bread. Biscuit on Saturday is gonna happen though.

Good luck and keep us posted if you find that Fountain of Youth we'd all like to drink from.

Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: Irishguy] #3379187
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Lunch today...

Splurged a little bit with 730 calories total for this meal. Reuben, pickles and low sodium chips. 1266 total for the day so far. (I wouldn't exactly consider this a healthy meal, other than it was mostly homemade including the Corned beef and the sauerkraut.

Mrs. Irish is basically sticking to the same meal plan, except she is doing intermittent fasting, by basically skipping breakfast the the calories. Plus shes eating slightly smaller portions than I am to keep her lunch and dinner below 1500 calories total for both meals. I'm going to have a grilled chicken salad for dinner so I hope to be way under 2500 calories today.

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Smart. Good for you brother. I've taken a hard focus on health this year.

I'm down 30+ lbs since late January. Still would like to drop another 25-30 or so...I'm not doing anything new or creative; just the basics....

- Get good rest.
- Pound water. Water. Drink lots and lots of water. Did I mention water?
- Stay within in a reasonable calorie window (that means not just over, but under as well...gotta take in enough fuel to keep the machine going). Calories are king.
- Watch the macros, but focus on protein. I aim for 187g protein/day.
- Fine tune it in the gym. I lift 3x/week and hit cardio 2x/week. Bonus activities (playing ball with the kids, bike rides, hikes, etc.) are exactly that - bonus.
- Be consistent and trust the process. It works.

Edit - I forgot to mention eating throughout the day. I make myself eat 3x/day, period. Not at all knocking intermittent fasting (I know it can be very effective). But for me personally I would lose track of the day and skip breakfast and lunch and have a massive supper. No bueno. I eat breakfast lunch and supper and have veggies at each meal, no exceptions.

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Originally Posted by mcninja
Smart. Good for you brother. I've taken a hard focus on health this year.

I'm down 30+ lbs since late January. Still would like to drop another 25-30 or so...I'm not doing anything new or creative; just the basics....

- Get good rest.
- Pound water. Water. Drink lots and lots of water. Did I mention water?
- Stay within in a reasonable calorie window (that means not just over, but under as well...gotta take in enough fuel to keep the machine going). Calories are king.
- Watch the macros, but focus on protein. I aim for 187g protein/day.
- Fine tune it in the gym. I lift 3x/week and hit cardio 2x/week. Bonus activities (playing ball with the kids, bike rides, hikes, etc.) are exactly that - bonus.
- Be consistent and trust the process. It works.

Edit - I forgot to mention eating throughout the day. I make myself eat 3x/day, period. Not at all knocking intermittent fasting (I know it can be very effective). But for me personally I would lose track of the day and skip breakfast and lunch and have a massive supper. No bueno. I eat breakfast lunch and supper and have veggies at each meal, no exceptions.


It sounds like we are doing basically the same thing. I'm shooting for 200 grams of protein every day. That's about 1.2 x my lean body mass.

I've done intermittent and I know it works for some people, but I'm a 3x a day person too. Love breakfast too much to skip it. (See first post. grin)

My target TDEE is 3000 calories, so I'm cutting back to 2500 to basically recomposition my body fat percentage down to the low teens. I've only been there about 3 times in my life and I'm just curious if I can do it in my 60's.

For those that don't know... This guy gives a good explanation of what I'm trying to do. I thought I would post the food that I'm using to do it, thinking that it might be interesting to some people, because I know there's some folks on here that like to eat and stay in shape...


Re: 2500 Calories a Day Eating Plan... [Re: Irishguy] #3379516
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Finally dinner tonight...

A big dinner salad with:

Grilled chicken thighs
Romaine Lettuce
Chick Peas
Carrots
Jalapeno
Sharp cheddar
Bell peppers
Avocado
Cucumbers
Tomatoes
Mrs. Irish's house made dressing
2 glasses of Peaks and Tides Cabernet

Total calories for dinner: 952

Total calories for the day: 2218 (282 below my target of 2500)

Mrs. Irish's total calories was 1422 ( 72 below her target of 1500)

Not bad... I had good eats. healthy, filling and tasty food, and I never got hungry, except right before dinner. I feel good going into a big workout day tomorrow.

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I’m following closely. I like where this is headed and I need to follow suit.
I’m trying to implement the Mediterranean diet and it’s not easy to just make a sudden change.


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This my fitness app works well until it doesn't.

I'll stop there. Everyone knows or doesn't know where they are.


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Originally Posted by cartervj
I’m following closely. I like where this is headed and I need to follow suit.
I’m trying to implement the Mediterranean diet and it’s not easy to just make a sudden change.


I think the Mediterranean diet is valid and I think it is a good eating plan.

Notice I didn't say the word "Diet." I think "Diet" has negative connotations with almost everyone. It implies sacrifice and no one likes to sacrifice. I think dieting can lead to binging. I like to use the term "Eating Plan" because to me it implies "A plan to conquer a goal." My goal is to gain muscle and lose fat to the point where I am as close to 200# as possible and have maybe 12% body fat. I think it can me done even at my age. (Watch the video posted above.)

I think you are right about "a sudden change." And I think this is why most people fail at dieting and then, because they yo-yo diet, it becomes worse. I think a gradual change is the path to success. A gradual change in lifestyle to making more healthy eating decisions and getting more exercise. And I'm taking about strength training and casual cardio, minimal cardio. Think of cardio more for your heart and lees for your waistline. If you are doing it right, strength training already has a cardio component.

To that end I am attempting to modify my eating habits to where I don't feel deprived, and therefore don't feel the need to binge on fatty, salty, oily or sweet snacks, by mainly focusing on the total calories and maximizing my protein intake. And for me, all that really involves is working out hard, getting my rest, and making smart choices for breakfast, lunch and dinner, since I already eat pretty healthy anyway and I don't normally eat junk food to begin with.


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Originally Posted by TickaTicka
This my fitness app works well until it doesn't.

I'll stop there. Everyone knows or doesn't know where they are.


The only thing I'm using Myfitnesspal for is to simply track calories. Yes, I pretty much know where I am. I have maintained 200# for months (Y'all see what I eat.) while steadily going up in my lifts. That would infer to me that I am, in fact, losing fat and gaining muscle, but I wanted to take it a little further and fine tune everything. So that's why I went to the app. I don't plan on using it for the rest of my life, I'm just using it to gauge my caloric intake and get a feel over say... A period of months of what I need to eat to lose fat and then to maintain a certain weight and bodyfat Percentage.

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Originally Posted by nomercy
Everyone is different. While deployed I’ve gone from 220 to 193lbs of solid muscle. Still showed not one ab!! Frustrated the crap out of me for awhile. I’m just not built that way.
You gotta eat carbs. Carbs equal energy. Feed the Machine is what we say. I personally just try to stay way from too many simple carbs.

I guess I'm one of the different ones, I Don't touch carbs and I'm in the best shape of my life, including when I was a college athlete. My body performs better by burning fat for energy.

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Originally Posted by Ridgehunter36
Originally Posted by nomercy
Everyone is different. While deployed I’ve gone from 220 to 193lbs of solid muscle. Still showed not one ab!! Frustrated the crap out of me for awhile. I’m just not built that way.
You gotta eat carbs. Carbs equal energy. Feed the Machine is what we say. I personally just try to stay way from too many simple carbs.

I guess I'm one of the different ones, I Don't touch carbs and I'm in the best shape of my life, including when I was a college athlete. My body performs better by burning fat for energy.


I think both of you are correct. Everyone's body responds differently, just like there are different body types: Endomorph, Ectomorph and Mesomorph.

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