Take this advice.^^^^ and pay what you can afford, for as long as you can afford it. When you can no longer either afford it or justify the money you spend on it, someone else will.

It's called Capitalism. And it has created the highest quality of life in history.

The cost per acre has passed the ridiculous point. Paper company land in Butler county is leasing for 16 dollars an acre, which is hilarious. I’ve learned to not get attached to a piece of property and I’m dang sure not spending much of my time and hard earned money improving a timber companies land. All the work days and all that jazz,,, piss on that. I’ll cut a few limbs out of the road and buy some seed, but no way I’d rent equipment to fix roads and clean up brush piles for the paper company after already paying them 2 mortgage payments just to have a key to get in the gate. I’ve seen people get burned after spending thousands of dollars fixing up a paper company lease. Once that moneys spent if you can’t get on the property you get a net zero return on that “”investment “”.

The value of anything is what a person is willing to pay. If a property isn't worth $14/acre, then no one will pay $14/acre. If someone is willing to pay $14/acre, that means the value is $14/acre.

From the owner's perspective: if a fella owned a thousand acres and can get $10,000 annually or $14,000 annually from someone for the privilege to go shoot pine goats on it, you can't blame him a bit for getting the most he can.

Anyone that is currently (or ever has) selling anything at all, and tells you they aren't trying to get the top dollar for whatever they are selling is probably lying. We may reduce the price a little to incentive a quicker sale or encourage a risk from the purchaser, but that is a calculated trade-off. Why do we hold landowners to a different standard?

Buncha democrats up in here. Dont worry, everyone in the US is going to get a taste of what socialism is really like over the next 3.5 yrs. He can charge anything he wants for the land. If you want to pay it, do it and hunt it. If you dont want to pay it, find something else or dont hunt. I hate where lease prices are going too but it is what it is and I do not begrudge any landowner from trying to maximize his return on the property he owns. Americans are their own worst enemy. Everyone wants to complain about new 4x4 trucks being $60+K, yet they still buy them by the millions and complain about what they just paid for it. If it is overpriced, dont buy it or dont lease it. If enough people have the same philosophy, then none will sell or lease and the manufacturers/dealerships and landowners will cut the price until they start to sell. Anybody really think that it costs the mills $60/sheet to make 3/4" plywood? Capitalism. As long as someone will pay it, that's the going price.

Yep, you’ve got me nailed DA. Capitalism and greed aren’t mutually exclusive. Capitalism isn’t always pure and it’s often used as a cover for just outright greed. For instance, in the example above that I made the comment on the landowner did NOTHING to improve the value of his property. He allowed the leaseholder to do all that for him, at the leaseholders cost, while harvesting a natural resource owned by the taxpayers yet he raises his prices..... what’s the justification? The property owner isn’t keeping the roads up, trimming trees, clearing roads, mending fences, repairing gates, putting lime in the ground.... that’s the leaseholders. So yea, I 100% stand behind calling him greedy and you can take Democrat and shove it up your a$$.

You need to get laid dude

Always, but I’ll still call stuff like I see it. We’re a bunch of men right? Why beat around the bush

I’d pay him for that last year, shoot everything that moved and in February hire a crop duster and fill that son of a b*tch with Spike 80DF and spray the whole property.
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Now this makes zero sense.. Taking your beef with the property management out on the wildlife & land? That's Some liberal democrat philosophy at its finest..

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So free state if somebody flew Spike across your own land you’d just chalk it up well I guess I was a greedy dick head and be ok with it? 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿

Just burn it.. maybe I’ll get it the next year

he doesn't need spike on his lawn to be a d.ck head...

That’s right. You need a tissue Nancy

Lots of ways of looking at things. For one I'm glad we can still hunt. And I can already hear someone saying "Oh that will never happen here! " Don't know about all that, especially when I see all these people in our Country who are being led around by the nose. Can't think for themselves and some would be just fine with the Government running their pitiful lives. By the way, that's a Government that can't even run their own Financial House. And they are gonna take care of us ? Sure they are ! Do you realize that the Assets of the People of the United States is nearly 70 Trillion Dollars ! So whose door do you think the Government is gonna come crawling to one day ? Enough on the State of the Country. As far as our hunting goes in the short term it appears the Anti's don't outnumber us yet. So we that hunt and lease land and sometimes pay more for it then it's worth still can enjoy this wonderful sport. I lease here in Bama and TN. Have in Illinois as well. Hunted pretty much from one end of Alabama to the other in my 45 plus years of deer hunting. And of all the States of hunted I enjoy Alabama the best. And to me it is one the most over rated. Many of the people who hunt here are just to put it plainly, ignorant asses. You can sell them on just about anything. They have listened to so much BS about our deer quality, numbers,harvest data,etc. If I were to put one my properties up on the internet for lease and tell them it's in Lowndes County. They would lease it sight unseen and give me a few more dollars for it if I show them a good trail cam buck. And yes Lowndes County has some good hunting in spots. But there are some Dud areas there too. But when these guys here one of our more well known counties, it's billfolds opening and begging time ! So because demand is so high in Bama for a lease. So is the price. I lease land in TN that is very good for $4.50 per acre. Why is that. Because it not nearly as in demand. Just look on Facebook at all the folks begging for a lease here. And any of these forums and far as that goes.
So how much is Al. land worth ? That's a matter of perspective. To me land that doesn't have quality deer and good numbers isn't worth much of anything. I have a tract in Bibb county that I have a few hunters on and it hasn't produced a decent buck not has any of the guys even seen one in the 2 years I've had it. But guess what ? They want it again next season. I wouldn't hunt it if you paid my gas and bought my Supper ! In Al. if you have a property that can produce a 125-135 class 🦌 you have a good place to hunt. I know there are 150 class deer here but most of the hunters here have never and will not take one. Gotta be realistic in your expectations. So If I have to pay 10-15 per acre here, that's one thing. But if I pay that, and the quality and good deer numbers are not there. It's time to get my head checked !

Go frak yourself. Most on here will agree you’re the DA. Buy your own freaking land then you won’t have to worry or complain about lease prices . Why does a landowner have to do anything to add value to his property?. He owns the damn land, he can just sit back and watch the trees and grass grow, or he can burn it all to the ground if that’s what he wants. You and your attitude are prime examples of why a ton of landowners will not lease hunting rights on their land. Some charge higher prices just to weed out trash and others say it’s just not worth the hassle. You, just like everyone else on here are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn’t make it right.

Well unlike you I couldn’t care less what anyone on this site thinks about me. It’s an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD. Good grief, I’ve never seen a bunch of so-called men get so butthurt. I don’t know how any of y’all make it through real life and overcome actual adversity. And your comprehension is terrible because I never once complained about lease prices, I just said in the example above that I thought the dude was being greedy and about ten of y’all started crying.

Trees grow and the value of land goes up with (or without) roads, fences, and gates. A skidder don't need a road, fences are just another thing to tear up when falling trees, and without roads/fences, there is no need for a functional gate. And unless the lime was being spread across the entirety of the property, it did not help the land as a whole, just the plots that the hunter wanted to use.



Another way of saying that is he allowed the leaseholder to do minor modifications to his property for the leaseholder's own benefit.

Weyerhaeuser just bought our lease, now we are waiting to see if/and how much they will raise prices, we’re in Wilcox county, I think we’re about 10 an acre now, know guys in Mississippi paying 17 🙁