I'm curious here.... it's been proven that it can be passed from contact with the meat/blood of an infected animal.... the fact that there may not be a case yet of it specifically doing so from a cooler full of it justifies to you putting the entire state's deer population, and everyone in the state's hunting so you can bring a couple of does across state lines? Am I tracking?

No, you're not tracking b/c I didn't do that you just made up some scenario and don't think you actually even proof read what you wrote. If it can be passed via blood or meat, then we should outlaw all forms of hunting b/c you know what happens when you shoot a deer? They bleed. I'm not gonna have an argument about how CWD gets passed around deer to deer b/c the scientists aren't even 100% positive themselves. I'm just saying it's a stupid law they passed b/c it gave them the warm fuzzies that they were saving the deer herd from CWD somehow.

Ok I wasn’t tracking..... so what was the point of this question? Especially if you’re not wanting to argue how it spreads.

Rhetorical. Making a point about a stupid law. Making a point about the ONE portion of his response. He was correcting that person on they are not trying to avoid an outbreak, that they are just trying to avoid ONE case...well, that's b/c they are afraid ONE case will lead to an outbreak. And when that outbreak does happen, it won't be caused by a bunch of hind quarters in a cooler. And also I'm sure he knows the states plan to deal with an outbreak will kill more deer than the outbreak itself.

Let’s just look at facts. Not theories.

Fact. CWD is a prion disease.

Fact. It can be found in neurological, spinal and bone tissue, as well as other areas.

Fact. People discard those parts of deer after processing.

Fact. Disposal exposes those prions to the environment.

Fact. That environment is where it can be exposed to living animals.

Once in the environment there is NO TAKING IT BACK.

It’s not like saying “Oops, well we messed up. Let’s clean up the mess and get it out of here.”

It’s more like, “It’s here now. Y’all boys and gals hang on. This is gonna be interesting.”

Like freestatehunter stated, are you truly willing to place an entire population of deer, and the most important recreational opportunity in existence, at risk for everyone over a minor personal inconvenience? Once the first state says “Hey y’all, we’ve got irrefutable evidence that Johnny dumping infected deer parts in the gully has infected wild deer in x county”, it is far too late to do something about then. It’s not worth the risk to me and states banning interstate transfer of infected parts is very wise and prudent in my opinion. That’s all I’m saying about that. Y’all can disagree or agree until you’re all blue in the face. It is what it is. Proactive measures is what stops or slows the spread of this disease. Reactive measures are too late.

Didn’t you submit comments during commentary period against it? They claim most FL hunters commented supporting the import ban. Personally I think the FWC guy behind this and most other FWC rules is a bonehead. Though in this case I would rather be inconvenienced having to debone my deer or use an AL processor than risk bringing a disease into FL that would wipe out the deer herd. Definitely fire him for FL private property antlerless rules but not for this.

All these "import / export" rules have changed the way we have to operate the skinning shed at our charity hunt. Used to be skin, quarter, ice , and go( no gutting). I spent 4-5 hours this year caping and de-boning deer with 3 other guys to get them ready for transport. 1/2 our hunters are from FL - number we will have to de-bone will triple because they shoot the most deer. But it is for a good cause- we netted right at $52k this year for our charities.

Matt

So here is my question in relation to your post above. I do not dispute the science or the fact that CWD is a killer. Tell me why if I as a land owner shoot a deer in the state of Tennessee and break that animal down and to the point of being able to transport it across into Alabama does this prevent the unwanted spread of the disease. It does not. All i have done is leave the tissue exposed on the property where i left the guts, bones and brain mater for that population to be exposed. If i am near the state line the effort taken to dispose of the tissue has done little to stop the spread of the disease if it existed in the harvested animal. i would assume it actually caused more exposure than if it were walking on the hoof.

So to my question. Why would it not make a larger stab at isolating the spread of CWD if there were designated dump sites that were not accessible to native deer herds. Dump sights that processors or sportsmen could utilize that the state could maintain control of the situation better than leaving it to chance. Just thoughts.

Truth is this does not inconvenience me one bit. I already get all of mine processed or mounted in AL. I still am allowed to think it’s stupid and pointless. The chances of this disease spreading across state lines naturally is much higher than vs in a cooler. If AL has an outbreak, it’s only a matter of time it gets into FL even if they stop and check every single vehicle coming across state lines. Where in the country has there been just a giant outbreak so far, is there really a state known for having deer numbers where the deer herd has been just decimated by CWD?

PS: since we’re all about hunting regulations that will save the population I’m all for lowering the Turkey limit to 3 mainly because I can’t even kill 1!

I understand the inconveniences. We can't move our deer across county lines in Missouri unless it is to a processor within 48 hours of kill. I process my own and it is a pain. When I hunt other properties I can't bring the deer back to my place to process.

My son shot his 1st deer last fall and we couldn't bring the antlers back. Luckily a buddy boiled it and I picked it up the next weekend. Otherwise I'm not sure what I'd have done (probably had to pay somebody to boil it).

Wisconsin got decimated about 7-8 years ago, Iowa as well. We do not want to even come close to what happened in those states.

So they have no deer population now?

Uhhhhh

I did not receive nor heard of a notice to express opinions regarding CWD and deer importing from the FWC and I receive their emails on other issues, they slipped this one right by us. I could see the new rule being needed if CWD was in Alabama or Georgia but give us a break every year its more rules and regs. So If I do not comply Im the bad guy now. The point about Taxidermist is right on also, you think they were advised and given an opportunity to comment? This is nothing but some pencil neck state employees justifying their jobs.

Considering the only populations that’s been decimated involving CWD was done by humans, it’s really not something that bothers me

Sorry but I’ve talked to DNR employees in hot zones of other states that’s had it for 20+ years and they basically chuckled at the response and plans of Alabama and Tennessee . That’s the two states I mentioned.

As one guy told me, reality isn’t following our models and the sky isn’t falling. Business as usual.

I'm just curious AlabamaSwamper.... i see your sn and that you live in Florence.... are you actually a member of the Swampers?

Are you about this rule or it it hearsay? The FWC hasn't hear about this rule change and they make the rules. Someone is just trying to start bad feelings.

Read paragraph 2 parts A,B,and C. allows you to haul a carcass with a permit. hallb this order is from 2019 nothing has changed.